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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / August 2004Tech Pan and WD2D+?
I've had nice results recently with WD2D+ and traditional emulsions. I've got a bunch of Technical Pan in the freezer and it dawned on me that the contrast control of the WD2D might have some potential with the TechPan. I'll go ahead and experiment (I almost hope it isn't "magic" with the demise of TechPan!), but would like to know of others' experiences that might save me some extra trials. Craig Schroeder craig nospam craigschroeder com -Eschew Obfuscation- > I've had nice results recently with WD2D+ and traditional emulsions. > I've got a bunch of Technical Pan in the freezer and it dawned on me [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Eschew Obfuscation- Craig, Can you expand on your comment about the demise of TechPan? I don't seem to recall Kodak making any announcement on it and a search of their web site didn't produce anything either. Thanks Jim There was quite a bit of discussion of this in photo.net and some other forums with links to the info. Here's a paste of the response one fellow got from Kodak: <paste> Well, my response from Kodak Tech Support... Alfred, Kodak has preannounced the discontinuance of Kodak Professional Technical Pan Film. 120 size will be discontinued in December, 2004, 135 and long roll will be discontinued in April, 2004, and sheet sizes will be discontinued in June, 2004. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may cause our customers and expect that Kodak Professional T-Max 100 Film may be used as an alternative for some applications. If you should have additional questions, please be sure to revisit our site as we are continually adding information to enhance our support. For immediate answers to commonly asked questions, please visit: http://faqs.kodak.com/kodakprofessional For product and technical information, service, support, and downloads: http://www.kodak.com/go/professional For information on ProPass Magazine: http://www.kodak.com/go/propass Regards, Peter V. Kodak Information and Technical Support Kodak Professional Ph. 800-242-2424 ext. 19 <end paste> >> I've had nice results recently with WD2D+ and traditional emulsions. >> I've got a bunch of Technical Pan in the freezer and it dawned on me [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Jim Craig Schroeder craig nospam craigschroeder com -Eschew Obfuscation- > Can you expand on your comment about the demise of TechPan? I don't seem > to recall Kodak making any announcement on it and a search of their web site > didn't produce anything either. I've seen this posted in other locations, including several forums on photo.net -- one poster said he had a letter from Kodak, on Kodak letterhead, in his hand, so I'm more inclined to think it's real than I was. The schedule given has 120 going first, then 35 mm, and 4x5 last, which seems odd given that 35 mm probably accounts for 90% of the consumption, but it's possible astronomy (which prefers 4x5) might use more than I had thought. Worth nothing that Gigabitfilm (35, 120, and 4x5) and Bluefire Police (35 mm and unperforated 16 mm, for subminiature formats) are both Agfa Copex, which ought to do anything Tech Pan can do, but with Agfa closing a deal for sale of their film division, it's uncertain whether there's reason for concern about the longevity of Copex. Microfilms in general, however, are likely to be around for some time yet; archival document storage still prefers film over digital because of the problems with digital format translation and unknown media longevity.  SignatureI may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz! -- E. J. Fudd, 1954 Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer Lathe Building Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/HomebuiltLathe.htm Speedway 7x12 Lathe Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/my7x12.htm Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth and don't expect them to be perfect. Thanks for the info. Time to start buying. Just, how much space can I weasel my wife out of in the freezer... > Thanks for the info. Time to start buying. Just, how much space can I > weasel my wife out of in the freezer... A small dedicated freezer might be a good idea. You can tell your wife that as soon as film becomes obsolete, you will fill it up with (insert her favorite here)... lobster, eclairs, steak, whatever. :) > Thanks for the info. Time to start buying. Just, how much space can I > weasel my wife out of in the freezer... Buy a small freezer to go in your darkroom? The little ones (not much bigger than a dorm fridge) are quite reasonable, and will hold a great deal of film. Even better, slow films like Tech Pan and microfilms keep extremely well when frozen, because they're relatively insensitive to fogging due to cosmic rays (which affects fast film even at sub-zero temperatures). SignatureI may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz! -- E. J. Fudd, 1954 Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer Lathe Building Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/HomebuiltLathe.htm Speedway 7x12 Lathe Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/my7x12.htm Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth and don't expect them to be perfect. > Worth nothing that Gigabitfilm (35, 120, and 4x5) I didn't know it was available in anything other than 35mm? Is it? Simon. > > Worth nothing that Gigabitfilm (35, 120, and 4x5) > > I didn't know it was available in anything other than 35mm? Is it? 4x5, too. See here: http://www.jandcphoto.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=121 > ... with the demise of TechPan! Perhaps TP ISO 25 will be replaced by TP ISO 100. I've not heard recently how well the transition to the new emulsion technology is progressing. Kodak has one doubled speed cine film on the market. An article I read about two years ago mentioned four years to market. I'd think there'd be more rumers. Agfa ISO 25, and now TechPan ISO 25 have or will be gone. Will Pan F+ ISO 50 be next? Dan > Agfa ISO 25, and now TechPan ISO 25 have or will be gone. Will >Pan F+ ISO 50 be next? Dan Unfortunately I fear you are right though Ilford denies it every time they are asked. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email |
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