O.k I"m very familiar with shooting 35mm film, ( I do B&W) developing,
making prints in my darkroom so I made a plunge and bought a Rolleiflex
camera medium format (dated 1955) and I got it today and the ASA only goes
up to 200 speed and I already ordered some 120 Ilford film at a speed of
400, now the question, how should I process it, I usually use D-76 and for
that matter I"m gonna put the camera on 200 speed and shoot away.Anything I
should do special in shooting or developing.....I didn't relize that the ASA
only went up to 200 speed....I'm learning....ever so slowly....thanks for
any info
Tina
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Peter De Smidt - 21 Jul 2004 20:45 GMT
> O.k I"m very familiar with shooting 35mm film, ( I do B&W) developing,
> making prints in my darkroom so I made a plunge and bought a Rolleiflex
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> Tina
> thouse5@cox.net
My advice is to shoot the film at EI 200, and develop normally in D-76.
The true speed of many ASA400 films when exposed and processed for
normal photographic purposes is usually 1/2 the listed ASA, or very
close. For example, testing with my densitometer showed that 8x10 HP5+,
which Ilford calls a 400 speed film, resulted in an exposure index of 200.
-Peter
PS I have a 1953 Rolleiflex Automat TLR. If you have trouble focusing,
you might seriously consider a Maxwell bright screen.
Nick Zentena - 21 Jul 2004 20:49 GMT
> O.k I"m very familiar with shooting 35mm film, ( I do B&W) developing,
> making prints in my darkroom so I made a plunge and bought a Rolleiflex
> camera medium format (dated 1955) and I got it today and the ASA only goes
> up to 200 speed and I already ordered some 120 Ilford film at a speed of
> 400, now the question, how should I process it, I usually use D-76 and for
Do you mean the camera has a meter and it only goes to 200? If that's
what you mean I'm going out on a limb and claiming you can just ignore the
meter. Use a handheld meter. Or if you really want to use the built in
meter then set it at 200 and see what combination of F/stop and shutter
speed it wants you to use. Then either close the aperture one stop or change
the shutter one speed faster.
OTOH if the camera is some how coupled to the meter and you can't work
around it then I'd suggest just trying the first roll with no changes. You
really should test your setup to find out what your true film speed is.
Nick
Tina - 22 Jul 2004 00:19 GMT
The camera doesn't have a built in meter (I metered with my own hand
held)....but I found another problem...I loaded some film and the counter
didn't count to 1 so I found that out and kept advanceing the winder till it
was on the takeup spool so I rewound it to the first spool and just guessed
at where the film was....well I shot the whole roll and 1 picture came out
so it's off to the camera shop tomorrow to see if it can be fixed.....I also
ordered the book by Ian Parker , complete rollei tlr collectors guide so
I'll have that coming....I had no problem focusing at all but I'll have to
see what the camera guy says when he gets it tomorrow hope it can be fixed
or else I might have not done something incorrectly since I have no manual
for it..........it seems like a simple enough camera.....I"ll keep ya posted
with how I"m doing with it...thanks for the advice.
Tina
> > O.k I"m very familiar with shooting 35mm film, ( I do B&W) developing,
> > making prints in my darkroom so I made a plunge and bought a Rolleiflex
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> Nick
Tom - 22 Jul 2004 00:24 GMT
If it is a Rolleiflex rather than an Rolleicord, the film needs to go between
the two pinch rollers, or the counter, and auto stop will not work. Not
something that is intuitive to a new user.
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> The camera doesn't have a built in meter (I metered with my own hand
> held)....but I found another problem...I loaded some film and the counter
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>> Nick
Peter Irwin - 22 Jul 2004 00:25 GMT
> The camera doesn't have a built in meter (I metered with my own hand
> held)....but I found another problem...I loaded some film and the counter
> didn't count to 1 so I found that out and kept advanceing the winder till it
> was on the takeup spool so I rewound it to the first spool and just guessed
> at where the film was....w
If this is a rolleiflex automat, the most likely thing is
forgetting to feed the backing paper under the first roller.
I've done this myself.
Peter.

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Tina - 22 Jul 2004 12:47 GMT
It seems that Imight have not fed the film in correctly...so I'll have the
camera guy show me how it's done with film...the camera is a rolleiflex 3.5
mx-evs type 2 according to the ebay seller...so knowing me I probably did
something wrong....hopefully it was me and not the camera's fault....I'll
let ya know after I return from the camera guy....
Tina
> > The camera doesn't have a built in meter (I metered with my own hand
> > held)....but I found another problem...I loaded some film and the counter
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> Peter.
Tina - 22 Jul 2004 16:15 GMT
Well it does seem I put the film over the roller instead of under the
roller....shot my first roll and the negatives look great....so thanks for
the info and help muchly appreciated!
Tina
> It seems that Imight have not fed the film in correctly...so I'll have the
> camera guy show me how it's done with film...the camera is a rolleiflex 3.5
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> > Peter.
Richard Knoppow - 21 Jul 2004 21:15 GMT
> O.k I"m very familiar with shooting 35mm film, ( I do B&W) developing,
> making prints in my darkroom so I made a plunge and bought a Rolleiflex
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> Tina
> thouse5@cox.net
I am assuming the camera has a built-in exposure meter
but I don't know what Rollei has such a limit on the
exposure calculator. My 2.8E goes up to ISO-800.
Assuming there is such a limit just halve the exposures
given by the meter for ISO-200, that is, use half the
exposure time or the next larger stop (say f/11 if it reads
f/8).
I also suggest using a separate exposure meter. Although
the meter in Rolleis is pretty good they are getting old and
some may have bad cells.
As far as processing, development time changes the
contrast, it can not be used to compensate for exposure.
While film is often "pushed" to a higher speed by increased
development this really does not change the film speed, it
only increases the contrast of the low exposure areas to
make them more printible. You may find that shooting the
film at a slightly slower speed than the ISO-speed will give
you better shadow detail. However, Ilford does not use the
strict ISO method so the box speeds are already adjusted
somewhat in that direction.
Adjust the exposure given by the meter and develop
normally. Ilford's development recommendations for its films
are also adjusted for a compromise between diffusion and
condenser enlargers so the negatives will print on either
with minimal contrast adjustment.
Write me privately if you have other Rolieflex questions
(or here if you prefer but I don't check the news groups as
often as I should).

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 21 Jul 2004 23:16 GMT
> [My] Rolleiflex's ... ASA only goes to 200 speed ... [I am using 400][.]
> [What should I do?]
If your camera has 'manual' metering, the needle reading is transferred to
a small set of concentric dials and the metered speed/f-stop combinations
are then read from the dials, you are in luck.
The exposure dial on your camera may go past 200 - most go in a full circle.
If so then set the speed to where 400 would be. The meter itself cares not
a twit about the film ASA.

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Frank Calidonna - 21 Jul 2004 23:36 GMT
Tina,
200 is OK to use with 400 speed film. You might have arrived at that
anyway. I would suggest that you obtain a hand meter to go with your
Rollei. That might be more useful than the camera meter. That is a great
camera by the way.
Frank Rome, NY
> O.k I"m very familiar with shooting 35mm film, ( I do B&W) developing,
> making prints in my darkroom so I made a plunge and bought a Rolleiflex
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> Tina
> thouse5@cox.net