> Hi,
>
> I recently acquired a number of 5x7 and 8x10 glass plate film holders.
> I've searched the internet in order to get more info but to no avail.
AFAIK, the last commercially made glass plates were Kodak, 4x5 inch,
T-Max 100, sold mainly for astronomy. They were discontinued in 1999 or
2000; even astronomers are using sheet film (when they use film at all)
these days.
> What I'd like to know is what kind of glass I need to get (i.e.. will
> thin window glass do?). One of the holders had a glass plate in it but
> the plate cracked in transit but with the shards I know the thickness
> required.
You'll want ordinary float glass, 2 mm thick. Which is a problem,
because the thinnest size you can get from glass shops these days is 2.5
mm. You might check with companies that sell (or preferably
manufacture) microscope slides; those are 1 mm glass, and a source for
that thickness might well have it in 2 mm as well.
> Next, how do I go about coating the plates with emulsion and what kind
> of ISO can I get. Are there any references anybody can point me to for
> this kind of procedure.
You can carefully clean the plates, including a final rinse with sodium
hypochlorite solution (aka chlorine bleach), sub with photographic
gelatin, and then coat with Liquid Light or other liquid printing
emulsion. You'll get a more or less orthochromatic (red-blind) coating
with ISO speed between 1 and about 6, depending on the brand and age of
the emulsion you use. You'll still have trouble with the emulsion
lifting, most likely. You'll find the usual problems encounterd in
printing color negatives to B&W paper -- muddiness and poor scale
rendition, because the liquid emulsion is polycontrast, and colors in
the scene will cause local contrast changes just as filters would in
printing.
Alternately, you can learn wet-plate processing, though if your camera
isn't designed for wet plates it'll be difficult to coat, sensitize,
load, expose, and develop before the plate dries (after which it's
impossible to develop because the water solution won't penetrate the
collodion surface after it's dried). Or you can try to research the
collodion dry-plate processes -- but you'll still wind up with an ortho
or even purely blue-sensitive coating; I don't know of any panchromatic
coating being produced before gelatin dry plates were introduced around
1880, and ortho (both plate and film) was still common even after the
First World War.
You could even learn Daguerreotypy, though I wouldn't recommend it --
chlorine and bromine aren't all that hard to deal with, but mercury
vapor is very, very nasty, and cumulative.
What most people do is to source film sheaths and use modern sheet film.
A film sheath mounts in the holder like a glass plate, but carries a
sheet of film; it's effectively an adapter to allow an old style holder
to be used with modern materials; this will (depending on format and
your budget) allow you to use up to ISO 400 materials in B&W, color
negative, and color positive transparency (aka reversal).

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bk a écrit :
> Hi,
>
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> regards,
> Bogdan
Hi !
Slightly OT but....
I use mounting board of the correct thickness put at the bottom of the
films holders (painted flat black with a marker) above which I put
regular sheet film...
Hope this helps ;-)
Oh BTW, Slavish (Russia) manufacture glass plates (look at
retrophotograpic in Great Brittain)
Donald Qualls - 17 Jul 2004 20:32 GMT
> bk a écrit :
>
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> Oh BTW, Slavish (Russia) manufacture glass plates (look at
> retrophotograpic in Great Brittain)
I've checked the retrophotographic site in some detail, and just
rechecked the Slavick/Slavich and Tasma sections, as well as Efke, Foma,
and Orwo -- nothing indicating any stock of glass plates; the only
Slavick products they seem to carry are printing papers.

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Georges Giralt - 18 Jul 2004 11:08 GMT
Donald Qualls a écrit :
> I've checked the retrophotographic site in some detail, and just
> rechecked the Slavick/Slavich and Tasma sections, as well as Efke, Foma,
> and Orwo -- nothing indicating any stock of glass plates; the only
> Slavick products they seem to carry are printing papers.
Have you sent them an Email ?
I was told they plan to import these Russian plates, so it may not be
avail. right now...
My private method runs fine, and may help you use the camera you own.
Donald Qualls - 18 Jul 2004 17:00 GMT
> Donald Qualls a écrit :
>
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> avail. right now...
> My private method runs fine, and may help you use the camera you own.
For me, I've had the good fortune to come into possession of a total of
20 film sheaths -- some came in film holders (in fact, I have some
Voigtlander film holders that don't fit any of my cameras, that I
purchased for a couple dollars each to get the film sheaths), and then I
stumbled on a dozen sheaths as well. Since I have only thirteen usable
holders, I have more sheaths than I currently need (though I continue to
hope I can find more KW holders to fit my Kawee Camera).
I'm not personally interested in glass plates, other than as a way to
keep making photographs after film completely dies (which will hopefully
be some time after I do); the original poster was looking for a way to
use some 8x10 holders that were made for plates. I don't have any way
to develop plates (no darkroom, I load in a changing bag, develop in
daylight tubes, and then scan the negatives, at least for the present).

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PATRICK GAINER - 21 Jul 2004 18:43 GMT
> > Donald Qualls a écrit :
> >
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> Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
> and don't expect them to be perfect.
If 2.5 mm glass will fit in your holders, the difference in thickness will
probably not cause a notiveable error in focus. In any case, you could
probably adjust the location of the ground glass to compensate.
I made some sheet film sheaths for some 5X7 plate holders out of sheet
aluminum. You may be able to find some plain aluminum cookie sheets you can
cut up, or get aluminum sheet in rolls at a hardware store.