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Neofin Blue, Efke 25

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jjs - 16 Jul 2004 16:07 GMT
Okay, I got five bottles of this spendy Tetenal Neofin Blau to try with Efke
25 film.  I say spendy because I'm accustomed to using Rodinal for
everything. So shoot me - it's what I've become comfortable with but I want
to try this stuff.

I do not understand what the literature means. I begins by saying that the
recommended development times is for "one film" and to add 20% developing
time when developing "two films simultaneously". (Finally they add that one
must use a "prologation factor" for given dilutions (in my case 1,3 or 1.3).
I understand the prologation factor. No problem there.)

But what do they really mean by "one film"? Are they presuming roll film in
small tanks? What of 4x5? It seems unlikely that they mean that only two
sheets of 4x5 can be developed in one quantity. I use the Combi Plan tanks.
6 sheets of 4x5. (Now Frank, don't spoil my day and remind me that I should
be using a Jobo.)
Nicholas O. Lindan - 16 Jul 2004 16:37 GMT
> recommended development times is for "one film" and to add 20% developing
> time when developing "two films simultaneously".
>
> But what do they really mean by "one film"?

1 std. 'film' = 80 sq. inches.

             = 1 8x10 sheet of film

             = 1 35mm 36exp

             = 1 120

             = 4 4x5

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jjs - 16 Jul 2004 16:43 GMT
> > recommended development times is for "one film" and to add 20% developing
> > time when developing "two films simultaneously".
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>               = 4 4x5

So if I'm doing 6 sheets of 4x5, I multiply the development time by what?
10%?
Baz - 16 Jul 2004 17:06 GMT
> So if I'm doing 6 sheets of 4x5, I multiply the development time by what?
> 10%?

I think that 20% should be fine.

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Peter De Smidt - 16 Jul 2004 16:45 GMT
> Okay, I got five bottles of this spendy Tetenal Neofin Blau to try with Efke
> 25 film.  I say spendy because I'm accustomed to using Rodinal for
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> recommended development times is for "one film" and to add 20% developing
> time when developing "two films simultaneously".
<snip>

> But what do they really mean by "one film"? Are they presuming roll film in
> small tanks?

<snip>

I think that your guess is the right one, namely that when you develop
two rolls instead of one, you have to add 20% to the developing time.
My guess is that this is related to the surface area of the film being
developed, since Neofin Blau is extremely dilute, right?  Since one roll
of 36 frame 35mm film is roughly equal to the surface area of four 4x5
sheets, I'd use the normal time for 4 sheets; and I'd add 20% to the
time if you do 8 sheets at once.  Mind you, I'm just guessing.

-Peter
jjs - 17 Jul 2004 01:07 GMT
> I think that your guess is the right one, namely that when you develop
> two rolls instead of one, you have to add 20% to the developing time.
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> sheets, I'd use the normal time for 4 sheets; and I'd add 20% to the
> time if you do 8 sheets at once.  Mind you, I'm just guessing.

I will split the difference and go for 15% for the first tests.
 
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