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Beseler Enlarger with Kodak Lens

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ATIPPETT - 07 Jul 2004 17:27 GMT
I have some old Eastman Kodak enlarging lens.  Not sure just what qualities
they have but I would like to try them with my Beseler enlarger.  All of the
lens boards I have found are boarded for 39mm these lens appear to be about
45mm in diameter.  How can I adapt these lens for my enlarger?

Alan Tippett
Bob Salomon - 07 Jul 2004 18:09 GMT
> I have some old Eastman Kodak enlarging lens.  Not sure just what qualities
> they have but I would like to try them with my Beseler enlarger.  All of the
> lens boards I have found are boarded for 39mm these lens appear to be about
> 45mm in diameter.  How can I adapt these lens for my enlarger?
>
> Alan Tippett

Any camera repairman, many camera stores and any machinist can mill the
hole to the larger size.

or you can buy, rent, borrow a Greenlee Chasis Punch of the correct size
and do it yourself.

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Jean-David Beyer - 07 Jul 2004 22:04 GMT
>>I have some old Eastman Kodak enlarging lens.  Not sure just what qualities
>>they have but I would like to try them with my Beseler enlarger.  All of the
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> or you can buy, rent, borrow a Greenlee Chasis Punch of the correct size
> and do it yourself.

Before you do that, make a quick check to see if it would fit. Someone
gave me a Schneider Componon 240mm f/5.6 enlarging lens and the rear
element would not fit into the opening of my 45MCRX. It might have been
possible to unscrew it from the diaphragm assembly and stick it in from
just below the lens stage and screw it back, but I had no need of it so I
never tried that.

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Nick Zentena - 07 Jul 2004 18:48 GMT
> I have some old Eastman Kodak enlarging lens.  Not sure just what qualities
> they have but I would like to try them with my Beseler enlarger.  All of the
> lens boards I have found are boarded for 39mm these lens appear to be about
> 45mm in diameter.  How can I adapt these lens for my enlarger?

 Buy a blank board and have it drilled. But a blank board will cost more
then a used lens might. If all you want to do is test the lens maybe make a
board out of cardboard? Or something else cheap.

     Nick
David Nebenzahl - 08 Jul 2004 16:12 GMT
On 7/7/2004 10:48 AM Nick Zentena spake thus:

>> I have some old Eastman Kodak enlarging lens.  Not sure just what
>> qualities they have but I would like to try them with my Beseler
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> then a used lens might. If all you want to do is test the lens maybe make a
> board out of cardboard? Or something else cheap.

Not cardboard; try Masonite (or whatever they call it in the UK or elsewhere).
"Hardboard". Easily cut with ordinary, non-rocket-science tools. That's what
all my homemade lensboards for my Beseler (23C) are made from. (Even painted
them Beseler Blue to match.)

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ATIPPETT - 08 Jul 2004 20:21 GMT
>Not cardboard; try Masonite (or whatever they call it in the UK or
>elsewhere).
>"Hardboard". Easily cut with ordinary, non-rocket-science tools. That's what
>all my homemade lensboards for my Beseler (23C) are made from.

>Not cardboard; try Masonite (or whatever they call it in the UK or
>elsewhere).
>"Hardboard". Easily cut with ordinary, non-rocket-science tools. That's what
>all my homemade lensboards for my Beseler (23C) are made from.
>(Even painted
>them Beseler Blue to match.)

Thanks that seems like the most workable material.
John - 08 Jul 2004 10:12 GMT
>I have some old Eastman Kodak enlarging lens.  Not sure just what qualities
>they have but I would like to try them with my Beseler enlarger.  All of the
>lens boards I have found are boarded for 39mm these lens appear to be about
>45mm in diameter.  How can I adapt these lens for my enlarger?
>
>Alan Tippett

    What are the focal lengths and which Beseler do you have ?

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  John S. Douglas, Photographer -  http://www.darkroompro.com
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Richard Knoppow - 09 Jul 2004 02:16 GMT
> I have some old Eastman Kodak enlarging lens.  Not sure just what qualities
> they have but I would like to try them with my Beseler enlarger.  All of the
> lens boards I have found are boarded for 39mm these lens appear to be about
> 45mm in diameter.  How can I adapt these lens for my enlarger?
>
> Alan Tippett

  Which lenses do you have?  Do you have the retaining
rings for the back threads?
  I don't know Bessler enlargers well having mostly used
other types. For many enlargers or cameras the quick and
dirty way of mounting a lens is to make a cardboard adaptor,
they are surprisingly strong.
  Post 1946 Kodak made two clases of enlarging lenses,
Enlarging Ektars and Enlarging Ektanons. Both are good
lenses. The Enlarging Ektars were made for color work and
are very well corrected for color. The 50mm and 75mm lenses
are five element Heliar types, the 100mm is a four element
air spaced Dialyte. The Enlarging Ektanons  are not so
perfectly corrected for lateral color but are still very
good lenses. The 10" f/8 Ektanon is the exception, this is a
very high quality lens made for use on the Eastman autofocus
8x10 printer.
  Unfortunately, Kodak does not include mounting
information for enlarging lenses in its old lens booklets.

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ATIPPETT - 09 Jul 2004 04:40 GMT
>For many enlargers or cameras the quick and
>dirty way of mounting a lens is to make a cardboard adaptor,
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>   Unfortunately, Kodak does not include mounting
>information for enlarging lenses in its old lens booklets.
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>Richard Knoppow
>Los Angeles, CA, USA
>dickburk@ix.netcom.com
Thank you for your response as usual it was helpful.

I have solved my problem.  I took a piece of masonite and cut a 4"X4" square.
Found the center and drill a 1 3/4" in hole.  This works with both my 23C and
45MXT enlargers so I solved that problem.

I only do B&W so color is not a problem for me.  The lenses given to me are an
odd lot.
   135 mm f 4.5 Extanon
   161 mm f 4.5 Anastigmatic
   105 mm f 4.5 Anastigmatic
    75 mm  f 3.5  Anastigmatic
Is anything know about these Anastigmatic lenes?

Alan Tippett
John - 10 Jul 2004 06:32 GMT
>I only do B&W so color is not a problem for me.  The lenses given to me are an
>odd lot.
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>     75 mm  f 3.5  Anastigmatic
>Is anything know about these Anastigmatic lenes?

    I know one thing the 75 and the 105 will work but the 135 and
161 are too long for the 23CII.

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