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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / June 2004Sigma advantages over other camera manufacturers
I put together this collection of info for those people interested in buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any other camera besides a Sigma SD10. 1) Superior build like a tank 2) Wealth of available lenses and accessories 3) Image quality is superior to all other cameras due to the highly acclaimed Foveon sensor. 4) True, realistic color images: The Sigma SD* series are the only digital cameras to record images in color instead of monochrome. 5) The best RAW conversion software available 6) Superior ergonomics 7) The most advanced features of all digital SLR cameras 8) Better effective resolution than any other digital SLR including the Canon 1Ds 9) Best dynamic range of all digital SLR cameras 10) Highly advanced autofocus system 12) Metering/exposure is always *DEAD ON BALLS* accurate. Can't say the same for Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus or Kodak 13) Far less complaints of image softness than Canon and Nikon digital SLR cameras 14) Forward compatibility: The Sigma/Foveon platform is a cutting edge hot technology that will be around in 10 years. Canon and Nikon will be dinosaurs by then. 15) No need to spend a fortune on expensive lenses with image stabilization or heavy tripods. Camera shake is prevented by an elaborate in-camera algorithms. > I put together this collection of info for those people interested in > buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any > other camera besides a Sigma SD10. Look at the "email address"  SignatureWould you like to know the precise date of your own death? What if anything is too serious to be joked about? Do you ever spit or pick your nose in public? >I put together this collection of info for those people interested in >buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any >other camera besides a Sigma SD10. > >1) Superior build like a tank not an issue, one need not be heavy to have good build quality >2) Wealth of available lenses and accessories more options with Canon or Nikon >3) Image quality is superior to all other cameras due to the highly >acclaimed Foveon sensor. Road Apples >4) True, realistic color images: The Sigma SD* series are the only >digital cameras to record images in color instead of monochrome. Nice theory, but practical implementation has not paid off >5) The best RAW conversion software available score 1 >6) Superior ergonomics Not really >7) The most advanced features of all digital SLR cameras More Road apples >8) Better effective resolution than any other digital SLR including >the Canon 1Ds No, a complete lie, please look up reolution and see what it really means >9) Best dynamic range of all digital SLR cameras Road Apples (the pile is gettiong quite high) >10) Highly advanced autofocus system But most reviews put the lie to that statement >12) Metering/exposure is always *DEAD ON BALLS* accurate. Can't say >the same for Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus or Kodak Road Apples, anyone who actually uses a camera with a TTL metering system knows there are always circumstances that will fool the metering system. >13) Far less complaints of image softness than Canon and Nikon digital >SLR cameras You can't back that up because it's, yes, more road apples >14) Forward compatibility: The Sigma/Foveon platform is a cutting edge >hot technology that will be around in 10 years. Canon and Nikon will >be dinosaurs by then. More road apples, the limiting issue is sensors, Canon and Nikon (and many point and shoots) are using higher resolution than Sigma is, if you need to get better, one has to replace the body with a Sigma, a Canon, a Nikon, an Olympus, etc. >15) No need to spend a fortune on expensive lenses with image >stabilization or heavy tripods. Camera shake is prevented by an >elaborate in-camera algorithms. One is limited to Sigma lenses, which means that you haven't the ability to use some exceedingly excellent glass made by the two largest lens manufacturers in the world, Canon and Nikon. As well, no matter how good the algorithms are, they don't actually image stabilize, one actually needs motors to keep the focus on the CCD, the best application is to put the motors on the lens. Sigma bodies simply don't do that. My count, there is one valid argument in 15, and that is easily rectified by buying a better RAW program for a Canon or Nikon. Bottom line is that the Sigma bodies are still 2 generations behind Canon. GK It seems to me that if everyone would stop playing word games with that Sigma person and not respond to anything that has the word 'Sigma' in it, the threads in here on that subject would fall to nothing and maybe the ng would be worth reading again! I am not going to cross-post this.....maybe others will be clever enough to come to these conclusions and make things interesting again! :)) -- mickey On 27 Jun 2004 03:34:44 -0700, giorgio@fuckshitpussyfuck.com (Giorgio Preddio) wrote: >I put together this collection of info for those people interested in >buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any >other camera besides a Sigma SD10. > >1) Superior build like a tank not an issue, one need not be heavy to have good build quality >2) Wealth of available lenses and accessories more options with Canon or Nikon >3) Image quality is superior to all other cameras due to the highly >acclaimed Foveon sensor. Road Apples >4) True, realistic color images: The Sigma SD* series are the only >digital cameras to record images in color instead of monochrome. Nice theory, but practical implementation has not paid off >5) The best RAW conversion software available score 1 >6) Superior ergonomics Not really >7) The most advanced features of all digital SLR cameras More Road apples >8) Better effective resolution than any other digital SLR including >the Canon 1Ds No, a complete lie, please look up reolution and see what it really means >9) Best dynamic range of all digital SLR cameras Road Apples (the pile is gettiong quite high) >10) Highly advanced autofocus system But most reviews put the lie to that statement >12) Metering/exposure is always *DEAD ON BALLS* accurate. Can't say >the same for Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Olympus or Kodak Road Apples, anyone who actually uses a camera with a TTL metering system knows there are always circumstances that will fool the metering system. >13) Far less complaints of image softness than Canon and Nikon digital >SLR cameras You can't back that up because it's, yes, more road apples >14) Forward compatibility: The Sigma/Foveon platform is a cutting edge >hot technology that will be around in 10 years. Canon and Nikon will >be dinosaurs by then. More road apples, the limiting issue is sensors, Canon and Nikon (and many point and shoots) are using higher resolution than Sigma is, if you need to get better, one has to replace the body with a Sigma, a Canon, a Nikon, an Olympus, etc. >15) No need to spend a fortune on expensive lenses with image >stabilization or heavy tripods. Camera shake is prevented by an >elaborate in-camera algorithms. One is limited to Sigma lenses, which means that you haven't the ability to use some exceedingly excellent glass made by the two largest lens manufacturers in the world, Canon and Nikon. As well, no matter how good the algorithms are, they don't actually image stabilize, one actually needs motors to keep the focus on the CCD, the best application is to put the motors on the lens. Sigma bodies simply don't do that. My count, there is one valid argument in 15, and that is easily rectified by buying a better RAW program for a Canon or Nikon. Bottom line is that the Sigma bodies are still 2 generations behind Canon. GK > I put together this collection of info for those people interested in > buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > 9) Best dynamic range of all digital SLR cameras This is the most compelling reason, I think. You can't take a Canon DSLR pic in the mildly challenging conditions without severe blown highlites. > 10) Highly advanced autofocus system > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > stabilization or heavy tripods. Camera shake is prevented by an > elaborate in-camera algorithms. > This is the most compelling reason, I think. You can't take a Canon > DSLR pic in the mildly challenging conditions without severe blown > highlites. Talking to yourself again, George? > > This is the most compelling reason, I think. You can't take a Canon > > DSLR pic in the mildly challenging conditions without severe blown > > highlites. > > Talking to yourself again, George? Scary, isn't it. This dickhead(George, Giorgio, Georgette, Lionel, Orville, or alias du jour) must have invested a shitload in Sigma/Foveon stock. I have never seen a fanboi so intent on convincing himself that he backed the right pony. If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it MUST be a duck. Too bad for Preddiot, it turned out to be goose sh.t. Ron > Scary, isn't it. This dickhead(George, Giorgio, Georgette, Lionel, Orville, > or alias du jour) must have invested a shitload in Sigma/Foveon stock. I > have never seen a fanboi so intent on convincing himself that he backed the > right pony. If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it MUST be a > duck. Too bad for Preddiot, it turned out to be goose sh.t. Are you saying the Sigma camera isn't very good? > > Scary, isn't it. This dickhead(George, Giorgio, Georgette, Lionel, Orville, > > or alias du jour) must have invested a shitload in Sigma/Foveon stock. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Are you saying the Sigma camera isn't very good? That's exactly what we're saying. And their lenses bite the big one too. who are these people infecting our newsgroup? > who are these people infecting our newsgroup? I would guess you are coming from darkroom or aus. There is a problem in rec.photo.digital with a persistent troll either trying to ruin Sigma's reputation or the reverse - no-one can work out exactly which, since the posts are so preposterous and all-invasive (any question about any camera gets a moronic cut and paste reply about buying Sigma instead). Looks as if some crossposting has spread this mess elsewhere. I have not been checking headers - I'll stop replying to these crossposts. David David Kilpatrick <iconmags3@btconnect.com> wrote in news:cbop20$338$1 @sparta.btinternet.com: >> who are these people infecting our newsgroup? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > David I really doubt that a few idiots in a newsgroup can, in any way shape or form, have *any* effect on Sigma's reputation, for better or worse. I agree. Let's ignore it and stop crossposting. L. Shut the f.ck up. > I put together this collection of info for those people interested in > buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > stabilization or heavy tripods. Camera shake is prevented by an > elaborate in-camera algorithms. >I put together this collection of info for those people interested in >buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any >other camera besides a Sigma SD10. > >1) Superior build like a tank .. is normal, works with the delicacy and refinement of a tank too .. > I put together this collection of info for those people interested in > buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any > other camera besides a Sigma SD10. How about that dust and grit on the CCD? > I put together this collection of info for those people interested in > buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any > other camera besides a Sigma SD10. > 1) Superior build like a tank This is incorrect, and so were your other assertions. Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.photo.equipment.35mm.] > I put together this collection of info for those people interested in > buying a digital SLR. These are the reasons why you shouldn't buy any > other camera besides a Sigma SD10. Who's this Giorio? Is he a real Sigma fan - or is it just TP pretending to be it, in order to 'proof' the inferior Sima quality? Both trolls refuse to show real pictures. BTW: I'm a glad user of e.g. a Sigma 24mm/2.8, Martin |
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