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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / June 2004

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Craig Schroeder - 25 Jun 2004 21:56 GMT
I've been enjoying some experimentation over the last year and have
been slowly chipping away at my freezer load of films in the process,
too.  The likely last one I'm getting to in my sequence is Xtol.  I
stopped at a local litho supply house (my only local source),
remembering that they listed Xtol in their catalog.  They only had one
packet left and it was in the old 1 liter package.  I mentioned that I
recalled this packaging being abandoned some time ago (how long?) and
after buying some other needed items, they just gave me the package
and said I could have it to play with.  

I can feel that one of the packets (I haven't opened the primary
packaging as I don't need to mix it up for awhile) is a bit stiff and
caked feeling.  Is this normal or typical?  If I'm going to give it a
try I'd like to know if it is behaving normally or if I'm likely to
have non-typical results because of age or oxidation.
Mark A - 25 Jun 2004 22:34 GMT
> I've been enjoying some experimentation over the last year and have
> been slowly chipping away at my freezer load of films in the process,
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> try I'd like to know if it is behaving normally or if I'm likely to
> have non-typical results because of age or oxidation.

No, it should not be caked. Kodak had some packaging problems with the 1
liter packets that caused XTOL failures, most likely because the packages
were not air-tight. I would just toss it if I were you.
Michael A. Covington - 26 Jun 2004 02:37 GMT
> No, it should not be caked. Kodak had some packaging problems with the 1
> liter packets that caused XTOL failures, most likely because the packages
> were not air-tight. I would just toss it if I were you.

Actually, if you send it to Kodak they'll probably give you a replacement.

It's real Xtol, and Kodak was paid for it, even though you got it free; so
you're not ripping off Kodak if you ask for a replacement.
Ursus Californicus - 26 Jun 2004 13:03 GMT
Years ago, I had problems with Kodak's "pearl" finish VC paper.  The paper
base tended to yellow just barely noticeably.  The funny thing was that the
"effect" actually worked for the print series I was doing.  But... Being a
purist, I didn't like an effect I hadn't intended, so I called their
customer support line.  They were quite honest and helpful, telling me that
they'd had problems with that paper, and had in fact discontinued it.  They
offered me a free replacement with any other product I wished.

I'd bought a 100 sheet pack, and I asked for another fiber-based product.
One week later, I received not one, not two, not three, but *four* 100 sheet
packs of the replacment I'd requested.  So I guess the moral of the story is
that if you get something defective, call them.  At least as of a few years
ago, they'll stand by their stuff.  But better hurry, while they still
manufacture film and paper, heh.

-- Theo Benson, MA
Grizzly Glen Photography
www.chameleon.net/ursus
Mike King - 28 Jun 2004 07:32 GMT
Right I just got two packages of Dektol replaced after calling and
complaining about the amount of time it took to go into solution.  Never did
get the first package to dissolve completely.  But the replacement was A-OK.

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> Years ago, I had problems with Kodak's "pearl" finish VC paper.  The paper
> base tended to yellow just barely noticeably.  The funny thing was that the
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> Grizzly Glen Photography
> www.chameleon.net/ursus
John - 29 Jun 2004 14:34 GMT
>So I guess the moral of the story is
>that if you get something defective, call them.

    Unfortunately any recourse is moot after you've attempted to
develop and fix your images using bad chemistry.

Regards,

  John S. Douglas, Photographer -  http://www.darkroompro.com
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