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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / July 2004Omega D carrier
I've just picked up an Omega D5 enlarger and am looking for negative carriers. I've seen some on Ebay that appear like the carriers I've used before on a D5(general shape) but are advertized as "D2" carriers. Is there any difference? That is, do all "D" carriers fit all "D" enlargers? On a related note, does an Omega enlarger FAQ exist anywhere? I got a copy of the D5 manual and it is far from complete. Thanks in advance, Mike >I've just picked up an Omega D5 enlarger and am looking for negative >carriers. I've seen some on Ebay that appear like the carriers I've >used before on a D5(general shape) but are advertized as "D2" >carriers. Is there any difference? That is, do all "D" carriers fit >all "D" enlargers? The will fit but there is usually a difference in the thickness of the carriers. The newer D5's seem to prefer thicker carriers. The carriers that came with my D5 (a circa '74 model) are almost identical in thickness though the ones made for my D5 have a better finish in that they are painted. >On a related note, does an Omega enlarger FAQ exist anywhere? I got a >copy of the D5 manual and it is far from complete. A full copy of the D5 manual at my site : http://www.darkroompro.com/frames/index.html I'm sure there is a FAQ somewhere but never needed to look for it. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email Thanks. Although I didn't have a lot of time to look at your website, the alignment manual is something I need, although it doesn't include the D5 specifically. Do you have any plans to create .pdf files of the manuals? I don't understand why Omega couldn't include information on alignment procedures, etc. in the D5 manual. That the manual gets halfway through the process for mounting the chassis on the baseboard and then refers to a separate baseboard instruction sheet is maddening. > >I've just picked up an Omega D5 enlarger and am looking for negative > >carriers. I've seen some on Ebay that appear like the carriers I've [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com > Please remove the "_" when replying via email > Although I didn't have a lot of time to look at your website, the > alignment manual is something I need, although it doesn't include the > D5 specifically. Do you have any plans to create .pdf files of the > manuals? I've tried it but the file sizes were very large. That something I want to avoid. I didn't have much time to play with Acrobat so I'm not sure I was getting the most out of the software. > I don't understand why Omega couldn't include information on alignment > procedures, etc. in the D5 manual. That the manual gets halfway > through the process for mounting the chassis on the baseboard and then > refers to a separate baseboard instruction sheet is maddening. LOL !I Stopped trying to figure out ANY company a long time ago. John D. You might find something here. http://www.classic-enlargers.com/ > I've just picked up an Omega D5 enlarger and am looking for negative > carriers. I've seen some on Ebay that appear like the carriers I've [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks in advance, Mike ON 29 Jun 2004 09:16:57 -0700, ibarakicho@yahoo.com (lost in space) WROTE: >You might find something here. > >http://www.classic-enlargers.com/ This site is an excellent resource for Omega enlarger information, and Harry (and often others) will respond to questions posted. Harry will usually invite phone or e-Mail contact should you have a question requiring lengthy discussion. My recollection of Omega carriers is that there were two different types of D series carriers. The earlier carriers were round with "tab" handles, like the Beseler carriers (and IIRC, could be used in either brand) and will work for DII, D2, D3 and D4 enlargers. The later rectangular shape with rounded center are supposedly usable in all D series enlargers DII through D6 (which came out before the D5 - go figure). > Re: Omega D carrier Just some clarification but first the something or other. Disclaimer for you young folks. Omega D Enlargers and their accessories are subject to many modifications, parts and component swapping and third party manufacture. But there are/were only two basic configurations of the carrier. Those that work with a specific Omega D enlarger and those that work with all of them. Some exceptions allowed. The variation comes with the negative carrier "bridge". The thing with the hole in it that is either round or square with angle corners. The angle corner holes, Omega DII-D2-D3, usually have pins for alignment of the carrier. Portrait or Landscape if you will. The round holes are Omega. D4-D5-D6. Some swapping from round hole enlargers to "square" hole enlargers does happen. I have done some of this myself for customers. And not all the bridges are the same. Within the two main groups of carriers there are several variations. No guides or slots, thick or thin, SS or AL metal. Probably others. There are 5 different 4X5 carriers and then there are glass carriers with variations also. And there are 5X4 carriers also. Many carriers are not current manufacture. And many exist in the used and third party market such as Ebay. And then there are the custom ones along with adapters to use Beseler carriers in Omega and Omega carriers in Beseler. But the big divide is between the DII-D2-D3, and D4-D5-D6. Also there was a D5 Automega that was made before the D5 and D6. Also the D6 preceeded the D5. Just keep in mind that Omega D enlargers have many variations caused by parts swapping. Thus a DII with perhaps a D4 negative carrier bridge. I have reread this twice. Tonight this is my limit. Bob AZ As usual with this newsgroup - the answers that everone has provided have been extremely informational. My only (rhetorical) question now is why more people on eBay don't include images of the bottom of their negative carriers... > > Re: Omega D carrier > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Bob AZ The diff in the carriers is the guide plate on the bottom to center it in the d5 stage.the d2 uses pins in the stage.d5 can rotate,d2 cannot. >The diff in the carriers is the guide plate on the bottom to center it in the >d5 stage.the d2 uses pins in the stage.d5 can rotate,d2 cannot. My D5 has the guidepins as well. Perhaps it's one of the earlier models of the Super-Chromega Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email John >Re: Omega D carrier <<My D5 has the guidepins as well. Perhaps it's one of the earlier models of the Super-Chromega>> Unless I have missed something in the last 30 years your D5 has had some parts swapping. The last guide pins in the regular Omega manufacture was the D3. Does your negative stage bridge have a round hole or a square hole with beveled corners? The D4, 5 & 6 had round holes allowing a carrier with a frame on the lower surface to rotate. Bob AZ As a rule D5 and D6 carriers center in the lightpath using an 8-sided doohickey on the bottom of the carrier whilst D2-4 carriers use the two notches at the back of the carrier to center, carriers are centered when the two notches are fully engaged with a couple of pins at the back of the enlarger carriage. Most D-5 carriers have the notches so will work on older machines and (I think, it's been some time since I played with a D5) D5's have the two pins at the back of the carriage (or perhaps the D-5 pins are removable).  Signaturedarkroommike ---------- > I've just picked up an Omega D5 enlarger and am looking for negative > carriers. I've seen some on Ebay that appear like the carriers I've [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks in advance, Mike On 6/28/04 11:24 PM, in article 648c4dd1.0406281924.61198e98@posting.google.com, "Mike Schuler" <michaeleschuler@yahoo.com> wrote: > I've just picked up an Omega D5 enlarger and am looking for negative > carriers. I've seen some on Ebay that appear like the carriers I've [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks in advance, Mike I can't find the URL but Google up "Classic Enlargers" run by Harry Taylor in Connecticut. He is a great guy, has all sorts of used parts, manuals and info. Very reliable to buy from. I think the Dr is different from the D@. Let me know if you want one, I suspect I have one or two lying around I could part with. Pac McLaurin > I can't find the URL but Google up "Classic Enlargers" run by Harry Taylor > in Connecticut. 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