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Efke 25 and Windisch

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Gene Johnson - 30 May 2004 23:29 GMT
Has anyone tried this combination?  I'm going to try for a more 10's/20's
style portraiture with a young model with very nice skin and I want a very
soft result.  I'm trying Efke 25 and I was going to use either Rodinal 1:100
or Windisch for the first try, and wondered if there were any opinions (!)
on this notion.
Martin Jangowski - 31 May 2004 07:49 GMT
> Has anyone tried this combination?  I'm going to try for a more 10's/20's
> style portraiture with a young model with very nice skin and I want a very
> soft result.  I'm trying Efke 25 and I was going to use either Rodinal 1:100
> or Windisch for the first try, and wondered if there were any opinions (!)
> on this notion.

Which formula from Windisch? There are at least two widely known formulas...
one with Metol/Sulfite (equivalent to D-23 1+3...) and one Pyrocat formula.

Martin
Gene Johnson - 31 May 2004 12:51 GMT
You're right.  I was thinking of the catechol/sodium sulfite/sodium
hydroxide formula.

> > Has anyone tried this combination?  I'm going to try for a more 10's/20's
> > style portraiture with a young model with very nice skin and I want a very
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> Martin
Richard Knoppow - 29 Jun 2004 02:26 GMT
> > Has anyone tried this combination?  I'm going to try for a more 10's/20's
> > style portraiture with a young model with very nice skin and I want a very
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> Martin

  There are more than that. Windisch has an extra fine
grain formula using metol and sulfite but with
ortho-phenelyinediamine as a halide solvent.

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Richard Knoppow - 29 Jun 2004 02:29 GMT
> Has anyone tried this combination?  I'm going to try for a more 10's/20's
> style portraiture with a young model with very nice skin and I want a very
> soft result.  I'm trying Efke 25 and I was going to use either Rodinal 1:100
> or Windisch for the first try, and wondered if there were any opinions (!)
> on this notion.

  I don't think you can get what you want by choice of
developer and film. The "look" of these photos has much to
do with lighting and the style of posing. Up to perhaps the
mid 1920s much photography was done on orthochromatic film.
Ortho is not sensitive to red so its rendition of skin tones
is different from panchromatic film. It would not be my
first choice for portraits of women of any age.
  Also, this was a period when soft focus lenses were very
popular expecially for portraits of women. The soft focus
effect could b flattering and eliminated a lot of
retouching.

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Nicholas T - 29 Jun 2004 03:12 GMT
>>Has anyone tried this combination?  I'm going to try for a
>
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> effect could b flattering and eliminated a lot of
> retouching.

Richard, what do you know about the various Soft Focus lenses? I know
there is the new kind version by Cooke. But what about the Imagons and
the others around that can be easily gotten available. I am more
interested in the portrait focal lengths. I have noticed the currently
available Softy Focus lenses are Triplets but there is more to the
effect from what I've read than a soft lens. Is it a "special" kind of
softness which makes these images "look" the way they do? Cheers
 
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