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Phenidone Extended Developer

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CCDee - 12 May 2004 19:46 GMT
OK I'm looking at some "alternative" processes on the PhotoFormulary site.
It says Phenidone Extended is capable of 15 to 20 stops of exposure range.
When would I need this? and how do you print 15-20 stops on paper? Is it
just giving me more choice as to what area I'm going to print? Is this
strickly large format formula or does 35mm and medium benefit from this too?
Thx. Oh and what kind on negative do I use this with?
nicholas - 12 May 2004 21:30 GMT
> OK I'm looking at some "alternative" processes on the PhotoFormulary site.
> It says Phenidone Extended is capable of 15 to 20 stops of exposure range.
> When would I need this? and how do you print 15-20 stops on paper? Is it
> just giving me more choice as to what area I'm going to print? Is this
> strickly large format formula or does 35mm and medium benefit from this too?
> Thx. Oh and what kind on negative do I use this with?

Doesn't sound like an "alternative" process, more like a POTA -like
developer for wide range lighting or contrasty materials.
CCDee - 12 May 2004 22:04 GMT
What's a POTA?

> > OK I'm looking at some "alternative" processes on the PhotoFormulary site.
> > It says Phenidone Extended is capable of 15 to 20 stops of exposure range.
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> Doesn't sound like an "alternative" process, more like a POTA -like
> developer for wide range lighting or contrasty materials.
David Foy - 19 May 2004 00:49 GMT
POTA is a very, very soft working developer that can be used to get a full
range of continuous tone gray scale from very contrasty films like
microfilm. It is extremely simple: phenidone, sodium sulfite, and water. It
is prone to streaking and mottling if not properly agitated.

David Foy

> What's a POTA?
>
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> > Doesn't sound like an "alternative" process, more like a POTA -like
> > developer for wide range lighting or contrasty materials.
CCDee - 12 May 2004 22:14 GMT
P.S. Right or wrong, I consider anything that's not D-76 "alternative". ;^)

> > OK I'm looking at some "alternative" processes on the PhotoFormulary site.
> > It says Phenidone Extended is capable of 15 to 20 stops of exposure range.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Doesn't sound like an "alternative" process, more like a POTA -like
> developer for wide range lighting or contrasty materials.
Norman Worth - 13 May 2004 08:05 GMT
You would need it when there were extreme light values in the shot.  These
developers were originally designed to photograph explosions with fairly
normal film.  Sometimes you run into situations which require N-4 or N-5
development, such as a brightly sunlit wall illuminating an interior by
reflection, where there is detail in both the shadows and the highlights.
This sort of developer is useful there.  The other place where it is useful
is when you need low to normal contrast with inherently high contrast film,
such as Kodak Technical Pan.

> OK I'm looking at some "alternative" processes on the PhotoFormulary site.
> It says Phenidone Extended is capable of 15 to 20 stops of exposure range.
> When would I need this? and how do you print 15-20 stops on paper? Is it
> just giving me more choice as to what area I'm going to print? Is this
> strickly large format formula or does 35mm and medium benefit from this too?
> Thx. Oh and what kind on negative do I use this with?
 
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