I also am looking for a specific 'sepia' like effect. Anyone remember the
movie Hombre w/Paul Newman? The fade-out ending showed a pic of him (indian
lad) as a young boy and I've always liked that faded, burnt(?) effect and
wondered how the film guys got it done? Have not been able to duplicate it
very closely in photoshop.

Any clues/recommendations would be appreciated. Realize I am probably asking
the wrong group; however, your color experiences should exceed those of the
relatively young digital manipulators.

Jim

I recently tried the following combinations for the except same print:

Agfa MCC 118 + Kodak Sepia
Agfa MCC 118 + Kodak Brown
Forte Poly V + Kodak Sepia
Forte Poly V + KRST 1:9
Forte Poly V + KRST 1:20

The sepia-toned Forte print definitely has colder browns than MC 118.  I
can scan them if people are interested.

--Mike

Go to the archives at APUG.org and look for a thread about toning that
Aggie posted describing how she achieved chocolate brown tones.

Traditional sulfide sepia toner on cold tone paper gives a pretty dark
brown.  Of course, it is very dependent on the paper and somewhat dependent
on the bleach used.  Bromide bleaches are generally cooler than chloride
bleaches, and other subtle differences occur with different bleaching
agents.  As for redevelopment after toning, there usually isn't anything to
redevelop.  But if you only partially tone the print, redevelopment may have
the intended effect.  More usually, you may only partially bleach the print,
so that some of the silver remains, before toning it.  The print will be
brown, but the residual silver will cool it a lot.  You can exercise a lot
of control by varying the bleaching time.  For just a hint of brown, you can
also sulfide a print without bleaching or give it a short dip in a direct
polysulfide toner like Kodak Brown Toner.

Ii would suggest experimenting with the sepia toning using a bleach (
ferricyanide, bromide and iodide) followed by thiourea(same as
thiocarbamide) toning.  The toner can be mixed warmer or cooler depending on
the ration of thiourea and sodium hydroxide.  I use Ilford papers (fiber).
With the Multigrade paper the toning can run from a traditional almost
golden yellow sepia to a cool purple/brown.  I also use Warmtone paper.
Even in the cooler ranges, the browns are really umber like.  The recipe for
the toner and bleach are in Rudman's book.  There are a wide range of
possiblities depending on how much bleaching one does (taking the print only
slightly bleached or fully bleached) or any range in between) followed by
the various degrees of warmth or coolness of the toning mixture.  All the
chemicals are readily available through Photographers Formulary in Montana
for about $20 or so.  Good luck with it.

Sam

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