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Lighten Spotone area?

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lib - 10 Apr 2004 15:07 GMT
I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area [about the
size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I lighten that area
before I try to re-color with Marshall Oils? Thanx
Timo Labrenz - 10 Apr 2004 16:13 GMT
"lib" <libaala@worldnet.net> schrieb:

> I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area
> [about the size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I
> lighten that area before I try to re-color with Marshall Oils?

I've never tried it myself, but a book I've just read recommends
Farmer's Reducer. Might be a bit hard on such a small spot.
No way of enlarging it again and dodging the area? I know it's not
gonna be easy with such a small spot, but maybe it'll work.

Timo
Timo Labrenz - 10 Apr 2004 23:46 GMT
Timo Labrenz <tlab3000@tlab3000.de> schrieb:
> "lib" <libaala@worldnet.net> schrieb:

>> I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area
>> [about the size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I
>> lighten that area before I try to re-color with Marshall Oils?

> [my weird answer]

Sorry, I think I got you completely wrong, there. For some reason, I
thought something in the area not previously spottet is too dark...
*looks embarrassed*

Timo
ll.clark@verizon.net - 11 Apr 2004 02:00 GMT
>>> I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area
>>> [about the size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I
>>> lighten that area before I try to re-color with Marshall Oils?

Try a William Mortenson method: holding a new razor blade almost paralle
to the surface of the print, scrape it very lightly until you get the
color out.

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 10 Apr 2004 16:50 GMT
> I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area [about the
> size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I lighten that area

Wet it down with a drop of water, smoodge the water around with a brush and
blot with a paper towel.  Repeat as needed.  It will come off.

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Frank Calidonna - 11 Apr 2004 02:00 GMT
Go to a drugstore or place where they sell ladies make-up. Buy some small
make-up sponges. Anytime you get too much Spotone on a print let it dry. Then
put pure ammonia on the sponge, squeeze it to get most out and GENTLY wipe the
offending dark spot. Ammonia will remove Spotone. After it is dry try spotting
again.

In case you don't know never use Spotone right from the bottle. Too easy to put
on too much. Pour some in a white saucer and let it sit overnight to evaporate.
Then moisten a brush and work with the dry Spotone. Much more control over
density.

Frank  Rome, NY

> I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area [about the
> size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I lighten that area
> before I try to re-color with Marshall Oils? Thanx
Michael Scarpitti - 11 Apr 2004 04:03 GMT
> I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area [about the
> size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I lighten that area
> before I try to re-color with Marshall Oils? Thanx

Dilute ammonia solution. And use pencil next time.
lib - 11 Apr 2004 15:03 GMT
Thanx for all of the suggestions. I will let you know what worked best for
me. Worst case is a re-print and start over on the hand color- Lib
Alexis Neel - 12 Apr 2004 00:51 GMT
> I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area [about the
> size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I lighten that area
> before I try to re-color with Marshall Oils? Thanx

Rubbing alchohol, either the 75% (?) or 99%, depending on how dark it
is.  Start with the 75% first since it has a bit more water.  just
apply a little bit and lightly rud with a clean, white cloth.  If that
doesn't work, use the 99%.

Alexis

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Randall Ainsworth - 12 Apr 2004 03:33 GMT
> Rubbing alchohol, either the 75% (?) or 99%, depending on how dark it
> is.  Start with the 75% first since it has a bit more water.  just
> apply a little bit and lightly rud with a clean, white cloth.  If that
> doesn't work, use the 99%.

I doubt it.  Ammonia is the recommended method.
Michael Scarpitti - 12 Apr 2004 14:43 GMT
> > Rubbing alchohol, either the 75% (?) or 99%, depending on how dark it
> > is.  Start with the 75% first since it has a bit more water.  just
> > apply a little bit and lightly rud with a clean, white cloth.  If that
> > doesn't work, use the 99%.
>
> I doubt it.  Ammonia is the recommended method.

...as I said first....
Malcolm Smith - 12 Apr 2004 04:56 GMT
put print back in the print washer and the spottone will be removed.

> I spotted a fiber-based portrait [B+W] with Spotone and one area [about the
> size of a small pencil eraser] is too dark. How can I lighten that area
> before I try to re-color with Marshall Oils? Thanx
 
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