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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / April 2004Woodworking and the Darkroom
I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do people marry these two hobbies? I've thought of wrapping the entire darkroom in Saran Wrap or some such thing... Any thoughts? TIA, Wayne > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do > people marry these two hobbies? I've thought of wrapping the entire darkroom > in Saran Wrap or some such thing... Any thoughts? Welcome to my world, Wayne. :) I have a darkroom and woodworking shop in the basement. The darkroom is a separate room. No matter what you do - all the tricks, filtering, humidity control, vacuuming, covering the enlarger - dust will get onto that favorite negative and tick you off to no end! > > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the tricks, filtering, humidity control, vacuuming, covering the enlarger > - dust will get onto that favorite negative and tick you off to no end! I was about to answer you with same as above, which is what I did. Dust, as you know from your woodworking, insinuates itself everywhere. Even under relatively ideal conditions, darkroom fans are useless, IMHO [snip] > under relatively ideal conditions, darkroom fans are useless, IMHO> Oh, I don't know about that... I love darkrooms, and yet my wife seems to find some uses for me! > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >the tricks, filtering, humidity control, vacuuming, covering the enlarger >- dust will get onto that favorite negative and tick you off to no end! Same here. The darkroom is a room off the workshop. Woodworking and photography somehow go together. I have met many photographers who are also avid woodworkers. I have in the last few years added a little metalworking as well. That has made large format photography a lot easier. Francis A. Miniter Take up knitting instead of woodworking. ;^) Seriously though you might want to consider draping/covering the walls of your darkroom with (black) plastic. Some claim it the electrostatic properties of the plastic "suck" the dust onto it. There's a word on it in Ctein's book "Post Exposure". He swears by it. Caulking the be-jesus out of every nook and cranny wouldn't hurt either. It's really a dilemma you're putting yourself in, it's kind of like trying to run a whorehouse out of a chapel...chances are one is going to do much better than the other... > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wayne On 4/9/2004 7:01 AM Wayne spake thus: > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do > people marry these two hobbies? I've thought of wrapping the entire darkroom > in Saran Wrap or some such thing... Any thoughts? Yes; sorry to be so blunt, but fuhgetaboutit. Don't even try it. And if you do, please don't come here complaining about dust. (Unless you can actually create a separate hermetically-sealed room for the darkroom, complete with entry airlock ...)  Signature... but never have I encountered a guy who could not be bothered to make his own case on his own show. - Eric Alterman on his appearance on Dennis Miller's bomb of a show on CNBC (3/17/04) >[...] > (Unless you can actually create a separate hermetically-sealed room for the > darkroom, complete with entry airlock ...) It gets worse. The clothes you wear for woodworking should never go into the darkroom. Dust gets in your hair, so leave that outside too. Heh. So far you have heard nothing but doom and gloom. If you love woodworking, have no location for your shop other than near your darkroom, then go for it regardless. Your sanity is worth it. But do cover the enlarger when it is idle. Spottone is your friend. > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wayne It's a very bad idea, I'm sorry to say. Even if you use the .5 micron dust collectors, you won't get all of the dust. It's just not worth it. Find another space for one of the hobbies. My woodshop is in my detached garage for this very reason. -Peter De Smidt > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. You may want to consider moving another room to the basement: relocating the guest bedroom, sewing room, office ... and moving the darkroom into the vacated room. I have mine in a bedroom adjoining the upstairs bathroom. The sink is in the bedroom's clothes closet (8' wide, 2.5' deep) and is piped directly to the sink/vanity on the other side of the closet wall. > How do people marry these two hobbies? Some marriages are better not made. > I've thought of wrapping the entire darkroom > in Saran Wrap or some such thing... Any thoughts? Kinky. Have you perchance seen the movie "Fried Green Tomatoes"? SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio nolindan@ix.netcom.com Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. psst.. want to buy an f-stop timer? nolindan.com/da/fstop/ >I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the >basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Wayne Best I can give you is an agressive positive ventilation system that draws its air from anywhere but the basement. That way the dust is downwind of you and will only come in on your clothing and shoes.. > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do > people marry these two hobbies? I've thought of wrapping the entire darkroom > in Saran Wrap or some such thing... Any thoughts? Make shavings not dust. If Bedrock doesn't mean Fred Flinstone then it's possible. Just need to worry about sawing. Nick > Make shavings not dust. If Bedrock doesn't mean Fred Flinstone then it's > possible. Just need to worry about sawing. Okay; I'm puzzled. What does that mean? Are you a planing enthusiast? >> Make shavings not dust. If Bedrock doesn't mean Fred Flinstone then it's >> possible. Just need to worry about sawing. > > Okay; I'm puzzled. What does that mean? Are you a planing enthusiast? Hand tools [chisels,planes whatever] don't produce dust the way the power things do. I've never heard a traditonal woodworker wondering about dust collection systems. OTOH woodworking usually means finishing. Unless a person has a finishing room then you need a dust free spot. Don't you? It must be possible to cleanup enough to deal with with the dust. Cover enlargers and everything else when not in use. Cleanup after running the power tools. Hook up dust collectors. It's got to be possible. Nick > > Okay; I'm puzzled. What does that mean? Are you a planing enthusiast? > > Hand tools [chisels,planes whatever] don't produce dust the way the power > things do. I have a compilation of articles of pre-electricity woodworking techniques. It's downright humbling what they did. > [...] OTOH woodworking usually means finishing. Unless a > person has a finishing room then you need a dust free spot. Don't you? It sure is a good thing to have, but I know only one person with that luxury here in the Winterlands; she has a huge shop, and her furniture sells for megabucks. The rest of us do finishing in the garage, or for a time when the dust has settled inside and we do only finishing at that time. I don't mean to drift, but it's worth mentioning that wood dust is bad stuff for the lungs. Take care out there. > I have a compilation of articles of pre-electricity woodworking > techniques. It's downright humbling what they did. Some still do. http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~alf/en/en.html It's nice to put a 100 year old tool back to work. > time. I don't mean to drift, but it's worth mentioning that wood dust is > bad stuff for the lungs. Take care out there. And some is worse then others. People worry about photo chemicals but some types of wood will do more damage to you. Nick >I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the >basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do >people marry these two hobbies? Hire a maid to come in on a daily basis and get a big air filter from a surgical supply company. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email > Hire a maid to come in on a daily basis and get a big air > filter from a surgical supply company. That sounds suspiciously like a plot for a kinky porn movie. Naaa. Can't be. It's too sophisticated. >>I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the >>basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do >>people marry these two hobbies? It can be done! My darkroom is in the corner of the outside woodworking shed. Shed is 24x24 with 7x12 dedicated to darkroom. I have two cheap box fans suspended from ceiling with standard HVAC 20x20 filters taped to the fronts. Keep them on low speed all of the time and they do an amazing job of getting most of the sawdust out of the air. But like everyone else said, dust will still find its way onto your negative! Hey, last location for darkroom was in the pool shed! Only a darkroom at night! I'm moving up! >It can be done! And I can run for president as well. Unfortunately the liklihood of success is minimal on both accounts. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email "John" <use_net@darkroompro.com> wrote" > > somebody@somewhere.net wrote: > > > Darkroom and woodshop sharing the basement??? > >It can be done! > And I can run for president as well. Unfortunately the > liklihood of success is minimal on both accounts. Oh, come on John. Not a fair comparison: you are much more likely to be elected President of This Great Land of Ours than having the wood dust stay out of the darkroom. SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio nolindan@ix.netcom.com Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. psst.. want to buy an f-stop timer? nolindan.com/da/fstop/ >> Darkroom and woodshop sharing the basement??? >> >It can be done! >> And I can run for president as well. Unfortunately the >> liklihood of success is minimal on both accounts. Hey!!!!! Napper for President! Better choice than Kerry! Bill On 4/11/2004 4:43 PM NapperWm spake thus: >>> Darkroom and woodshop sharing the basement??? >>> >It can be done! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Napper for President! Are you a napper like The Gipper was a napper? SignatureMy coffee was beginning to wear off and with it the momentary illusion it gives that things are Right and life is Good. - James Thurber, from the short story _The Black Magic of Barney Haller_ > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do > people marry these two hobbies? I've thought of wrapping the entire darkroom > in Saran Wrap or some such thing... Any thoughts? > > TIA, Did you ever see the movie "Andromeda Strain"? If you did you'll know what you are up against. You'll likely manage the first three levels of decontamination OK. The last two levels will be very challenging. Dan > Did you ever see the movie "Andromeda Strain"? Yes. Drinking Sterno can save your life ? And the baby. well my daughter has her beat by a mile ! Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email I don't have any fancy darkroom dust filters, but I do use the woodshop dust collector faithfully and I vacuum up the stray dust and sawdust immediately. Some other things: My darkroom door does not open into the woodshop area. It did, but I fixed that. I use a lot of black polyethylene to block light leaks in the ceiling (joists) and the walls. It works fine for the intended purpose, but it also keeps down the dust. I keep my negatives in protective sleeves when not using them, and I check them carefully for dust when I do. I generally do not have a problem, but being paranoid is worthwhile. > I'm planning on building a darkroom in our basement, but also use it (the > basement, that is) for woodworking, which creates a ton of dust. How do [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wayne > I use a lot of black polyethylene to block light >leaks in the ceiling (joists) and the walls. It works fine for the intended >purpose, but it also keeps down the dust. Might also work as a dust magnet of sorts as well given plastics high level of static. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email |
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