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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / April 2004Take a look...
at some of my pics. They`re probably stupid but hey, I`m still learning ;) Feel free to comment.. http://solair.eunet.yu/~ivan-nik/ > at some of my pics. They`re probably stupid but hey, I`m still learning > ;) > > Feel free to comment.. > http://solair.eunet.yu/~ivan-nik/ Let's all chip in and get Ivan a Kiev. >Let's all chip in and get Ivan a Kiev. As opposed to a Holga ? Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email > >Let's all chip in and get Ivan a Kiev. > > As opposed to a Holga ? Good point. A Kiev's worth of Holgas! > > at some of my pics. They`re probably stupid but hey, I`m still learning > > ;) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Let's all chip in and get Ivan a Kiev. Yeah. Whatever that is :) So ? What do you think about photos ? Good, bad.. ?? > Yeah. Whatever that is :) > > So ? What do you think about photos ? Good, bad.. ?? It doesn't matter, my friend. Keep on taking photographs as you please and don't you worry about what the world thinks. I'd like to know where those photos were taken. > > > Yeah. Whatever that is :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > don't you worry about what the world thinks. I'd like to know where those > photos were taken. In Budapest, Hungaria. I have some... well, "interesting" photos of Belgrade... ? My grandparents are from Budapest which makes us brothers! > My grandparents are from Budapest which makes us brothers! It`s a nice city, but I`m from Belgrade ;) On 4/14/2004 1:20 AM Celt spake thus: >> >> > Yeah. Whatever that is :) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > In Budapest, Hungaria. Budapest, eh? ("Hungaria"? only a non-Magyar Yurpeen would spell it that way.) I could swear that one of those pictures (#2, if I remember correctly) actually looks like Szentendre, farther up the Duna; perhaps the old Serbian church there? I remember the tiled rooftops of that place ...  SignatureMy coffee was beginning to wear off and with it the momentary illusion it gives that things are Right and life is Good. - James Thurber, from the short story _The Black Magic of Barney Haller_ > Budapest, eh? ("Hungaria"? only a non-Magyar Yurpeen would spell it that way.) Yeah :) > I could swear that one of those pictures (#2, if I remember correctly) > actually looks like Szentendre, farther up the Duna; perhaps the old Serbian > church there? I remember the tiled rooftops of that place ... I can`t remember if we were in Sant Andreja, anyway, it was something near... There are few ortodox (serbian) churches, but it`s shame that our goverment doesn`t have enough money to take care of them. Most of them are closed. It`s a differnet story about burned monasterys and churches over at Kosovo... Anyway, you may be right.. > > In Budapest, Hungaria. > > Budapest, eh? ("Hungaria"? only a non-Magyar Yurpeen would spell it that way.) Let me show you something respectable about Budapest and Hungary: http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/60216/size/big/password//sor t/1/cat/511 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/60011/size/big/password//sor t/1/cat/531 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/52917/size/big/password//sor t/1/cat/533 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/42315/size/big/password//sor t/1/cat/532 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/30758/password//sort/1/cat/5 00/page/3 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/28274/password//sort/1/cat/5 00/page/3 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/28068/password//sort/1/cat/5 00/page/4 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/20082/size/big/password//sor t/1/cat/531 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/13176/password//sort/1/cat/5 00/page/6 http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showphoto.php/photo/53924/size/big/password//sor t/1/cat/511 All pictures from Janos Gehring: http://www.fotohaz.hu/fotoarena/showgallery.php/cat/500/si//page/1/sort/1/perpag e/15/password//ppuser/965/what//name//whenterm/ Sorry for this offtopic post but I think this subject can result a bit better picturtes:) Regards, /Janos On 4/15/2004 12:55 AM Janos Bauer spake thus: >> > In Budapest, Hungaria. >> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > /Janos All I can say to that is kosonom szepen. SignatureI was quickly apprised that an "RSS feed" was not, as I had naively imagined, some new and unspeakable form of sexual debauchery practised by young persons of dubious morality, but a way of providing news articles to the cybernetic publishing moguls of the World Wide Wait so they can fill the airwaves with even more useless drivel. - Cynical shop talk from comp.publish.prepress > Sorry for this offtopic post but I think this subject can result a bit > better picturtes:) > Regards, > > /Janos Quite extraordinary photos, indeed... This is also OT but I must say... I had great time in Budapest ! I was staying at hotel "Golden park", in the center of the city, although, you can get for one side of town to another in 15-20 minutes using metro. Budapest is VERY nice city and it`s a must see if you travel in this area of Europe. Belgrade is simillar, but we don`t have proper turism... yet. That`s shame... Your subject matter is excellent. Very interesting. But your composition is awful. There is no art to it. It also seems to be overexposed and not much contrast making them look dull. Could be the labs fault though. >It also seems to be overexposed and not >much contrast making them look dull. Could be the labs fault though. Air pollution. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email > Your subject matter is excellent. Very interesting. But your composition > is awful. There is no art to it. Ok, thanks. What do you think I should... perform ? > It also seems to be overexposed and not > much contrast making them look dull. Could be the labs fault though. I think it`s fault of my scanner :) Pics are with "live" colors and better focused in reality than scanned... >> Your subject matter is excellent. Very interesting. But your composition >> is awful. There is no art to it. > >Ok, thanks. What do you think I should... perform ? Study the photos of great photographers. Look at the placement of objects inside the frame. >lso seems to be overexposed and not >> much contrast making them look dull. Could be the labs fault though. > >I think it`s fault of my scanner :) Pics are with "live" colors and >better focused in reality than scanned... John said Air pollution, and he's probably hit on one problem. Another is the missed focus in some of the pictures, especialy the one of the young man in front of the statues. The ground in front of him continues to get sharper as it gets closer to the bottom of the frame; sharper as it gets nearer. Could this be a problem with the rangefinder camera's mechanism? The composition here would be improved by placing the subject so that there is more "empty" space in front front of him , in the direction of his gaze. Look up something on rules of compostion; a book, at least. This is not to suggest slavishly following all the rules, just being made aware of them can get you going. That Yashica can take pretty good pictures when it get's help. Robert Vervoordt, MFA > Study the photos of great photographers. Look at the placement of > objects inside the frame. Starting with Ansel Adams ? :) > sharper as it gets nearer. Could this be a problem with the > rangefinder camera's mechanism? I would bet that`s the problem ! I suppose that`s... fixable ? >> Study the photos of great photographers. Look at the placement of >> objects inside the frame. > >Starting with Ansel Adams ? :) Sure. Actually, some intro motion picture books go intothe role of screen direction, the "stage" line, negative space and the Sagittarial plane. You can get a lot from looking at well made movies. Once you know thrules, you can bend and break them with confidence. >> sharper as it gets nearer. Could this be a problem with the >> rangefinder camera's mechanism? > >I would bet that`s the problem ! I suppose that`s... fixable ? Usually. Can't say much about cost or availability. Commonly, there is an adjustment for the range finder mechanism, that may be inside the body. Alternately, the prblem is with you and your focusing methods. Robert Vervoordt, MFA >Starting with Ansel Adams ? :) Try W.Eugene Smith instead. Also Henri Cartier-Bresson. Perhaps Walker Evan or Dorthea Lange for good measure. Remember, when looking at a city, it's the people that tell the current story and not the buildings. Buildings tell of history but unfortunately there is rarely any indication as to when the building(s) were built. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email > >Starting with Ansel Adams ? :) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > unfortunately there is rarely any indication as to when the > building(s) were built. I feel strange when I`m taking pics of people... I`m always wandering will they be angry if they see me while I`m doing that > I feel strange when I`m taking pics of people... I`m always wandering > will they be angry if they see me while I`m doing that I won't, so feel free to come to Gent (Belgium) to make some pictures of me. I have the impression that people often are flattered when you want them on your pitcure. Others behave as if they couldn't care less. But of course there are humans that don't like their picture taken. Don't sneak up on people (no waistlevel viewfinders for instance), be ready to explain your motives, and have respect for your subject. Someone who doesn't want his/her picture to be taken, will usually make this clear without getting really angry, so if you're not completely confident don't persist. When you're not afraid, you will eventually find the interaction with your subject very amusing. Even without talking. Just don't give up, photographing strangers can be scary (especially in the beginning), but that doesn't mean you're not cut out for people-pictures. Philippe > > I feel strange when I`m taking pics of people... I`m always wandering > > will they be angry if they see me while I`m doing that > > I won't, so feel free to come to Gent (Belgium) to make some pictures of me. If I go there one day, I will ;) > When you're not afraid, you will eventually find the interaction with your > subject very amusing. Even without talking. Just don't give up, > photographing strangers can be scary (especially in the beginning), but that > doesn't mean you're not cut out for people-pictures. I`ll try again today... wish me luck :) > > Study the photos of great photographers. Look at the placement of > > objects inside the frame. > > Starting with Ansel Adams ? :) For instance. Or Man Ray, Cindy Sherman, Cartier-Bresson, Joseph Koudelka, Duane Michaels, Dirk Braeckman, Brassai, Robert Adams, William Eggleston, the magnum-family (http://www.magnumphotos.com), August Sander, Bernd & Hilla Becher, Dieter Appelt, Araki Nobuyoshi, Lee Friedlander, ... and I'm sure everyone on this newsgroup can drop dozens of other names that they find worth looking at. Too bad googling for 'famous photographer' won't be any help. Maybe visiting your local library might be useful to discover some new heroes. After, all which your choice of idols will depend on your main interest. My suggestion is that you start shooting pictures close to home - since you know the area, you might find it a bit dull, but you'll be able to concentrate on your pictures. Don't try to think too much about your choice of subjects ... too limiting when you still have to find out what you want to shoot, and after all everything is an interesting subject. Also shoot an awful lot, experiment with different apertures and shutter speeds, be critical to yourself, dig deeper in things you like and try to get some feedback ocassionally. When you get negative critiscism, defend yourself. There is a reason why you made your picture, and it might be interesting to find out why someone else thinks you were wrong (or even to find out all the others also think you were right). I'm sure there's a lot of potential in your index-finger (you know, the one that presses the shutter-release), you just have to find a way to squeeze it out ;-) Philippe > I'm sure there's a lot of potential in your index-finger (you know, the one > that presses the shutter-release), you just have to find a way to squeeze it > out ;-) ha, ha..., thanks :-) I`m almost done with my second roll, yesterday I did some shooting `round the city... people, actually :) > > > Study the photos of great photographers. Look at the placement of > > > objects inside the frame. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > any help. Maybe visiting your local library might be useful to discover some > new heroes. Have you heard about Tomislav Peternek ? > > > > Study the photos of great photographers. Look at the placement of > > > > objects inside the frame. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Have you heard about Tomislav Peternek ? Not yet, but if google has, I soon will too ;-) > > > > > Study the photos of great photographers. Look at the placement of > > > > > objects inside the frame. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Not yet, but if google has, I soon will too ;-) Don`t think google will give satisfaying results. You`ll get his home page, anyway... I think that he has a version in english, also. >I'm sure there's a lot of potential in your index-finger (you know, the one >that presses the shutter-release), you just have to find a way to squeeze it >out ;-) A cable release works well. It tends to slow down the body so that the mind can catch up. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email Composition is something difficult to explain in a newsgroup so finding a book would be better. However, there are websites that talk about it. Search for "rule of thirds" and "the golden ratio". Those are basic and there is more to it than that. Artists draw using geometric forms, arranging their subjects on triangles and circles or curves. Further study involves contrasting light, colors and textures. Your first assignment would be basic placement of your subject into an interesting arrangement. The main subject does not have to be dead center but on a line 1/3 from the left or right. There's nothing wrong with center placement but it's over used and sometimes boring. Get close to your subject so we can see what's important about him. The young man's clothes are interesting but we're all drawn to his facial features and hair. You might let him fill the frame more but make the background more interesting without distracting us from him. My curiosity was, what was he standing in front of? But you didn't show that. > Get close to your subject so we can see what's important about him. The > young man's clothes are interesting but we're all drawn to his facial > features and hair. You might let him fill the frame more but make the > background more interesting without distracting us from him. My curiosity > was, what was he standing in front of? But you didn't show that. Actually, he turned his head because I asked him to :> Ruined idea... I didn't mean which way he was facing, I meant you are too far away from his face. >There's nothing wrong with center >placement but it's over used and sometimes boring. Done properly with a good subject, centered images have a sense of strength. Unfortunately the subject and technique are rarely found and exercised. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email > at some of my pics. They`re probably stupid but hey, I`m still learning > ;) > > Feel free to comment.. > > http://solair.eunet.yu/~ivan-nik/ I forgot to mention, they`re taken with g 35 electro Yashica. Antique camera.. Electros. I love that camera. I have two. I think the lens' give great results. Back to your battery question. Just use the standard 6 volt replacement battery and compensate with your ASA dial, 80 ASA instead of 100, 320 ASA instead of 400 etc. works great > > at some of my pics. They`re probably stupid but hey, I`m still learning > > ;) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I forgot to mention, they`re taken with g 35 electro Yashica. Antique > camera.. > Electros. I love that camera. I have two. I think the lens' give great > results. Back to your battery question. yeah :) Too bad you can`t change objectives... :( Plus, I don`t have even those one you could buy in a package with camera... Just use the standard 6 volt > replacement battery and compensate with your ASA dial, 80 ASA instead of > 100, 320 ASA instead of 400 etc. works great Wow, wait. HOW to comepnsate ASA ? And, I`m ashamed to ask this, but what is ASA ? As far as know, that`s something about film reaction to light or something like that... ?? ISO, DIN, ASA is all the same thing really a scale for measuring film speed. The orginal battery for the Electros was a 5.6V and the 6.0 works but your negs will be a bit underexposed. By rotating the dial on top of the Electro body from 100 down to 80 (or even 50) you'll add a bit more density to your neg. > > Electros. I love that camera. I have two. I think the lens' give great > > results. Back to your battery question. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > And, I`m ashamed to ask this, but what is ASA ? As far as know, that`s > something about film reaction to light or something like that... ?? > at some of my pics. They`re probably stupid but hey, I`m still learning > ;) > > Feel free to comment.. > > http://solair.eunet.yu/~ivan-nik/ another pic, bird house, this one taken in Essen, Germany > > at some of my pics. They`re probably stupid but hey, I`m still learning > > ;) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > another pic, bird house, this one taken in Essen, Germany no comments about this, eh ? |
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