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Rainman - 06 Apr 2004 22:29 GMT

When reading litterature on fine art photography the prints are often said
to be "silver gelatine" prints. Is this the same as high quality fibrebased
photopaper?

If not; what are the differencies between "silver gelatine" prints and
"ordinary" photopaper like for exampler Ilford Multigrade FB, Ilford Galerie
or others?

Knut Otto Pedersen
Norway - home of giants ...

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David Nebenzahl - 07 Apr 2004 04:26 GMT

On 4/6/2004 2:29 PM Rainman spake thus:

> When reading litterature on fine art photography the prints are often said
> to be "silver gelatine" prints. Is this the same as high quality fibrebased
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> "ordinary" photopaper like for exampler Ilford Multigrade FB, Ilford Galerie
> or others?

"Silver gelatin" is a 75-cent art snob term for all traditional photograpic
(black & white) prints.

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Alexis Neel - 07 Apr 2004 11:42 GMT

> On 4/6/2004 2:29 PM Rainman spake thus:
>
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> "Silver gelatin" is a 75-cent art snob term for all traditional photograpic
> (black & white) prints.

Well, it is used to differenciate between your standard, enlarger
utilized, prints and other type of B&W prints. The paper can be RC or
fiber, but 99% of the time, its fiber. Since there are other type of
processes, platinum, etc, to produce B&W images, this fine tunes the
description. It is mostly used by people selling their work to inform
the buyer what exactly it is. Especially since buyers have an
interest in the longevity of their purchase.

If thats snobish, well, snob on!

Alexis

www.alexisneel.com

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moda - 07 Apr 2004 11:56 GMT

> If thats snobish, well, snob on!

It's FINE art, let it be a bit snobish :-)

Moda

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Bauie - 07 Apr 2004 15:01 GMT

> > If thats snobish, well, snob on!
>
> It's FINE art, let it be a bit snobish :-)
>
> Moda

Why do we grade art like files? Is there medium art, "rough cut" art?
"Bastard" art? "Coarse" art?

Mark

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moda - 07 Apr 2004 15:09 GMT

I produce rough art because my negs are too dusty...and the prints are full
of fixer because don't do a final wash...
That rough art.
And by the way: no ISO lower than 1600!!!

moda

> > > If thats snobish, well, snob on!
> >
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>
> Mark

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David Nebenzahl - 07 Apr 2004 16:53 GMT

On 4/7/2004 7:09 AM moda spake thus:

>> > > If thats snobish, well, snob on!
>> >
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> That rough art.
> And by the way: no ISO lower than 1600!!!

Now that's something rare here on Usenet: honesty, combined with
self-deprecation. Quite refreshing, actually.

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Dan Quinn - 07 Apr 2004 22:58 GMT

High or low quality as long as there is silver in the gelatine. It
can be spread on anything; paper, plastic, ceramics, even wall paper.
The term silver gelatine identifies the medium used. I work in
that medium as a photographer and in the darkroom I work in
that medium as a printer. Dan

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