> > I have no way of having a real darkroom. But I
> > wonder if it is possible to do it with stuff such
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> frustrations yourself. One advantage of using tube processing is the
> minimal amount of chemicals used...
> Your Jobo blew up? How?
yep, smoke and everything. Apparently water had gotten into the
electrics and so on. I bought it second hand from a shop and this
happened about a month or two after getting it.
> Anyway the dev-teck,
> there are two models, the smaller takes up tp 11x14
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> is in water bath, all the chemical containers and the
> big tube.
Ive seen pictures of the motor, it looks like quite a primitive design
as opposed to a Jobo system.
> The motor agitates for you, and I'm sure it's
> all cheaper than any Jobo that might blow-up! Where
> did you read that the tube is actually too small? Or
> have you tried one?
I own one. The larger size like I said before. The paper when inserted
into the tube is slightly too big and requires trimming and at 20x24
it's a real hassle. An oversight (undersight?) I would say.
> See the PDF file: http://www.doranent.com/ makes
> the dev-tec processors.
Since then I got a Simmard (made in Canada) and that worked much better
for my needs as the design was simple (motorised) but very well thought
out. The tube sits on rollers which has a rocking system and that helps
with keeping the solution on the print.
> As far as the light problem for paper I guess I would
> only enlarge at night. I imagine a tightly woven silk
> over my windows should work and provide a free
> light source.
I also tried a pup tent (actually a camping toilet tent--unused) so I
could print during the day as well. However, I found with the added
hassle it was easier to print during the night time and have the doors
open....
> Thanks Nicholas,
No worries, I can only recommend you work out a way to sought out your
workflow to what best suits you in a way which doesnt require massive
capital investment beforehand. Like I said I thought the devtek system
not worth the hassle because of the oversight of the sizing of the tank.
Jobo is well made and can be very compact in actual use because. I had a
bad experience with it and this does not seem to be the norm. I use Nova
tanks and think they are the best for space saving although they too
have their drawbacks. Not the least of which is the high expense.
There is always single tray processing?
Nicholas
> Alex
nicholas - 28 Mar 2004 22:12 GMT
Oh and one more thing since I've seen youre a largeformatter. Jobo make
an excellent 4x5 tank for use with rotary processing. Its good and you
use minimal amount of chems. Another bonus is the large amount of people
who use this specially with staining type developers...
Bob Salomon - 28 Mar 2004 22:18 GMT
> Simmard
Was the father of both the Beseler drum and the Unicolor drum.

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AArDvarK - 29 Mar 2004 00:38 GMT
"nicholas"
> > Your Jobo blew up? How?
>
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> Nicholas
> > Alex
Sheesh, I couldn't find a product page for Simmard
anywhere online. Then took a look at Beseler and
their drum system is not listed as normal products
but are listed as close-out items at huge prices, way
out there. I can't find any maker's product page for
Unicolor either, and no sale sites. Too wierd.
Alex
Bob Salomon - 29 Mar 2004 00:46 GMT
> Sheesh, I couldn't find a product page for Simmard
> anywhere online. Then took a look at Beseler and
> their drum system is not listed as normal products
> but are listed as close-out items at huge prices, way
> out there. I can't find any maker's product page for
> Unicolor either, and no sale sites. Too wierd.
Simmard hasn't made drums since the early 70's. That is when Beseler
started making drums and a little after Unicolor started.
Home color and B&W darkrooms are not exactly a growth industry so these
products are discontinued.
If you want a current drum look at Jobo.

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