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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / April 2004Ilfochrome, anyone?
I had my first experience with Ilfochrome printing last night. Followed Ilford's instructions to the letter, used my CPE-2 processor (EBay, y'know...), and got decent prints from the start. They just look a little funny because the borders around the edges are black, not white. My motivation was the poor quality of commercial prints I had gotten from slides. Developing slide film is dead easy; so far, printing it holds no terrors either. I used the filter pack on the paper package, and it looks about right. Maybe a touch too yellow. Have to do some more prints to be sure. The Ilford P30 instructions mention that the chemistry may generate sulfur dioxide during processing. They're not kidding. Phew! Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte > I had my first experience with Ilfochrome printing > last night. Followed Ilford's instructions to the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." > ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte One comment, if you are attempting color printing the first time a grey card shot will help you determine if the filteration is correct. You calibrate your system, and save the print once perfect for future reference. You print the slide each time and compare the two prints that way you will know if things like your bulb temperature is changing.  SignatureRun down to Bob Storches they handle lights for all occasions. > One comment, if you are attempting color printing the first time > a grey card shot will help you determine if the filteration is correct. > > You calibrate your system, and save the print once perfect for future > reference. You print the slide each time and compare the two prints > that way you will know if things like your bulb temperature is changing. Yep. For initial messing around and seeing how things worked my first test was a picture of a bird - with a white head and grey feathers - sitting in a tree. At first I thought I'd blown it because while the bird was indeed white and the sky behind it was blue, the leaves on the tree were yellowish-green. But when I compared it to the slide I knew it was OK, and then realized too that in the dry season in Costa Rica, few trees have green leaves... My other test was an astronomical shot, a wide-field picture of Orion. The stars are (mostly) white, with Betelgeuse and Rigel showing distinct colour. The Orion nebula is the correct colour too, reddish-pink on E200. The Ilfochrome "paper" is strange feeling stuff. Reminds me of Australian money. Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte > I had my first experience with Ilfochrome printing > last night. Followed Ilford's instructions to the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." > ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte Laura, You'll get the sulpher dioxide when the bleach and fixer mix. Carry over is enough from step to step. If you contaminate the bleach with the fixer, you can throw it out. My experience shows even the least amount of fixer landing into the bleach destroys the bleach, but then again, I use P-3 chemistry. The one thing you'll note is that the prints will be rather high contrast. The only way around it is to mask. I've changed my habits and only use slide film for those places where high contrast is desirable, and then print on Ilfochrome. I love the prints. You're right, it's not hard, just expensive. Jim > The one thing you'll note is that the prints will be rather high >contrast. Ilfochrome is available in three contrast grades - "Regular" which is probably best defined as very high, "Medium" which I define as high, and "Low" which I define as Medium. I find that nearly all slides which are of normal contrast print well on the low contrast version. YMMV. Ed Hi Laura, I too have found the recommended settings on the ilfochrome pack to be too yellow. I have found from my experience that most of my prints do well with an initial settings of minus 15 units of yellow and plus 5 units of cyan. I emphasize this is for my taste and for most of my prints but not all. I also feel, as the previous post stated, that masking most slides would be very helpful to decrease contrast. Masking is making a b&w neg of the slide by exposing it in direct contact with the slide then developing it. The print is then made with the slide and b&w neg sandwiched together. If you like, check out my website: WWW.tranquilimages.com. It is strictly an amateur site. All my images are ilfochrome prints most of which has been masked. Hope this helps. Regards, Ed Margiewicz > I had my first experience with Ilfochrome printing > last night. Followed Ilford's instructions to the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." > ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte > Hi Laura, > I too have found the recommended settings on the ilfochrome pack to be too > yellow. I have found from my experience that most of my prints do well with > an initial settings of minus 15 units of yellow and plus 5 units of cyan... I tried another batch of prints the other night, backing the yellow off 10 units, and the cyan off by 5. The results are *nice*. They have a lot of that reach- in-and-touch-them feeling of good black and white prints. Films: Fuji Provia 400 and Velvia 50 (picked from the selection at the camera store), shot in a Pentax 67, developed in my bathroom in Agfa chemistry (because that's what they had at the camera store). This is gonna be fun. Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte > > Hi Laura, > > I too have found the recommended settings on the ilfochrome pack to be too [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." > ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte Hi Laura, I have two books about Cibachrome (Ilfochrome) for sale on the e-Bay.nl site. Maybe it can help you? Regards martin visser the netherlands I've been away from Ilfochrome printing for several years. Now I'm ready to get back into it, but some things seem to have changed. I've always mixed my own developer--a phenidone, Vit. C formulation in a divided formula that gave me wonderful contrast control and sparkling colors, but now the prints are a little muddy. Has Ilford changed the emulsions on their papers (I often used the Pearl surface RC)? Any tips on changes to the materials over the past three or four years would be appreciated. Larry >> > Hi Laura, >> > I too have found the recommended settings on the ilfochrome pack to [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > martin visser > the netherlands SignatureUsing M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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