Well Mike, it looks like you tore me a new one. Actually, I have no complaints
from anyone I show my work to, however I'm a perfectionist and having half a
face creeping up in my pictures drives me crazy. Parallax correction on
rangefinders does not compare to using an SLR. I use a pro-lab for my printing
and often pay twice or even triple what you'll pay at a drug store lab. To me
it's worth it. With respect to SLRs vs rangefinders, I will admit that
composition is far superior when using an SLR. However, the only time I feel an
SLR truly delivers is when it's sitting on a tripod with MLU. I feel I get
better and sharper results with a rangefinder. I don't believe I'm alone. I
was hoping that someone would actually know of a brand of machine that's out
there that would do this. I'm pretty confident that they're out there. And yes
I would pay extra for the service. I obviously would prefer to do it myself,
but I'm not sure how much I'd have to pay to allow me to sit at the controls.
Steven, as Mike mentioned, all of the new digital minilabs offer cropping. But
you may need to pay extra for them to take the time to do this for you rather
than just print the entire negative. Look for a lab with some of the newer
Noritsu DLS printers; 2711, 3101, etc. If it's an optical printer, then
cropping is usually not an option. In addition to cropping, they typically
allow for easy adjustment of background contrast to lighten up those dark
backgrounds from being too fr from your flash. It's just a simple selection on
the computer when the images are fed to the printer.
Oh yes, as mentioned, remember that the typical operator only makes small bucks
and may have no judgment or cropping skills. You really should consider having
the negatives scanned then cropping at home before ordering reprints.
Bernie
Please note that this is my last response to this thread.
> Well Mike, it looks like you tore me a new one.
Gosh, Steven, I really hope no one in a newsgroup ever really goes after
you. I was just trying to give insight into the economics of mini-lab
operation and suggest a different workflow that might better suit the way
things are, (rather than the way we'd all like them to be, there are times
when I, too, would love to get special cropping on a roll of film; concerts
come to mind as a good example, you are constrained as to positions you can
shoot the action from and i frequently wish I could get in a little
tighter).
>Actually, I have no complaints
> from anyone I show my work to, however I'm a perfectionist and having half a
> face creeping up in my pictures drives me crazy. Parallax correction on
> rangefinders does not compare to using an SLR. I use a pro-lab for my printing
> and often pay twice or even triple what you'll pay at a drug store lab.
I'm sorry, the subject header said mini-lab, that's the question I
addressed. A lot of mini-labs CLAIM to be custom labs but try getting real
custom work from them. If there isn't a really pale guy working eight hours
a day in a darkroom in the back of the building, it probably isn't a real
custom lab.
>To me
> it's worth it. With respect to SLRs vs rangefinders, I will admit that
> composition is far superior when using an SLR. However, the only time I feel an
> SLR truly delivers is when it's sitting on a tripod with MLU.
Truly delivers what? Sharpness, focus, exposure? When shooting flash at
1/10,000 in a dark bar?
>I feel I get
> better and sharper results with a rangefinder. I don't believe I'm alone. I
> was hoping that someone would actually know of a brand of machine that's out
> there that would do this. I'm pretty confident that they're out there. And yes
> I would pay extra for the service. I obviously would prefer to do it myself,
> but I'm not sure how much I'd have to pay to allow me to sit at the controls.
Some of the Kodak Kiosk machines will permit this, expect to pay a lot.
Much cheaper to have the lab do the scans and do your cropping at home. Or
pick up a scanner, dedicated film scanners are cheaper every year. (And I
suspect consumer level scanners will soon be obsolete as more consumers move
to a full digital workflow. So don't wait too long)
> > It's a frustrating situation but think about it from the lab manager's point
> > of view. Essentially you are asking for custom cropping at mini-lab prices.
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