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Photo Forum / Film Photography / Darkroom / March 2004typewriter still in use??
mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, With all my expounding on oil paint vs acrylic (silver vs digital, movies vs TV ...), I overlooked one thing. Does anyone know of a typewriter still in service? regards, --le ________________________________ Lloyd Erlick Portraits, 2219 Gerrard Street East, unit #1, Toronto M4E 2C8 Canada. --- voice 416-686-0326 lloyd AT the-wire DOT com http://www.heylloyd.com ________________________________ > mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > > With all my expounding on oil paint vs acrylic (silver vs digital, > movies vs TV ...), I overlooked one thing. Does anyone know of a > typewriter still in service? Sure: I have an Olympia OM-3 that still works. I do not use it much, since I no longer have the even touch necessary for presentable copy.  Signature.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ Registered Machine 73926. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 2:20pm up 55 days, 1:40, 5 users, load average: 2.16, 1.99, 2.03 There is at least one professional writer in this country (Brazil) that refuses to give up on his old typewriter... He's considered kind of weird due to that. Jorge > mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > http://www.heylloyd.com > ________________________________ >mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > >With all my expounding on oil paint vs acrylic >(silver vs digital, movies vs TV ...), I >overlooked one thing. Does anyone know of a >typewriter still in service? There is at least one in the Institute where I work, used to fill out preprinted forms. Chris Ellinger Ann Arbor, MI USA Yeah, we use one at my office for those forms that have to be typed in. No way around that, except when the form is used more than once and then it can be scanned and converted to PDF. Francis A. Miniter >mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >http://www.heylloyd.com >________________________________ > mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > > With all my expounding on oil paint vs acrylic > (silver vs digital, movies vs TV ...), I > overlooked one thing. Does anyone know of a > typewriter still in service? We have an IBM Selectric in the office. We go through a ribbon every other year or so. It is used for envelopes and labels. Our preprinted shipping labels don't feed through a laser very well. And sometimes it's just as easy to type file folder labels on the typewriter than it is to get the labels out, find the Word template, make sure no one else is about to print something before you stick the label in, etc. And I have an old manual typewriter that I have not used for a long time, but I keep it, and I will use it in the future, I am sure. There is a certain feeling of "now" that you get with a typewriter which is not present with a wordprocessor. -- I have a different writing style with a typewriter than a computer. Bob Signatureremove the backwards "SPAM" to reply. we have a IBM Selectric also in my wife's office here at the house. She uses it to do checks and envelopes. I know I know but she likes it that way. lee\c > > mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > -- > remove the backwards "SPAM" to reply. On 3/10/2004 9:45 AM click76112@charter.net spake thus: > we have a IBM Selectric also in my wife's office here at the house. She > uses it to do checks and envelopes. I know I know but she likes it that > way. "You know you know" what? I mean, let's say you want to address an envelope. You tell me which is faster: 1. Stick envelope in typewriter. Line up left margin. Roll up to top line. Start typing. Type three lines. BING! Done. 2. Start up computer, wait for it to boot. Find word processing program and open it. Select a template, or figure out what to do with the blank document staring you in the face. Type your three lines. Select "Print" from the File menu. sh.t! the printer's off-line; try again. Now adjust the margins, spacing, font, etc., etc., until it's in the right place and legible. Stick an envelope in the printer, hope it feeds without shredding. SignatureThe Bush administration should restrain itself from its imperial arrogance that has so alienated countries around the world. Their contempt for the United Nations in the dash to war with Iraq; their support of the coup in Venezuela in April 2002, and the continuing hostility toward President Chavez; the pressure on nations of the world to exempt the US from the International Criminal Court, now joined by their contemptuous attitude toward President Aristide must be halted. It is time for the people of the USA to make this point clear even if the administration continues to walk around with wax in its collective ears, with eyes closed, and ranting about its version of the world as defined by Bush. - Excerpt from TransAfrica statement on the situation in Haiti, 2/17/04 (http://www.transafricaforum.org/) > "You know you know" what? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > spacing, font, etc., etc., until it's in the right place and legible. Stick an > envelope in the printer, hope it feeds without shredding. Or You have the envelope already addressed and formated on your hard drive as it is a corresponant you have already written to several times. Since the computer is never off there is no boot time. Turning on the printer is not a problem, because I am printing other documents. all day,....I turn the printer on once a day. Dragging the typewriter out and clearing a new space does have issues. What if the ribbon os dried out? Since I have a continous ink feeding system I virtually never need ink.....at least not in almost two years. > David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote: > > > envelope... > > typewriter! > computer! "Doris, could you please come in here and mail this." SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio nolindan@ix.netcom.com Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. psst.. want to buy an f-stop timer? nolindan.com/da/fstop/ > "Doris, could you please come in here and mail this." You should have seen "my" Doris, she was/is beautiful. > You have the envelope already addressed and formated on your > hard drive as it is a corresponant you have already written to several times. > > Since the computer is never off there is no boot time. Turning on > the printer is not a problem, because I am printing other documents. > all day,....I turn the printer on once a day. You still have to feed the envelope and make sure everything lines up. Overall, a computer and printer are overkill for just addressing an envelope, and it's easy to see why a typewriter might be better suited to the task. SignatureTranspose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. > You still have to feed the envelope and make sure everything lines up. > Overall, a computer and printer are overkill for just addressing an > envelope, and it's easy to see why a typewriter might be better suited > to the task. It is easier yet to address it by hand. How quickly we forget. On 3/11/2004 7:47 AM jjs spake thus: >> You still have to feed the envelope and make sure everything lines up. >> Overall, a computer and printer are overkill for just addressing an >> envelope, and it's easy to see why a typewriter might be better suited >> to the task. > > It is easier yet to address it by hand. How quickly we forget. Unless one's handwriting is as spastic as mine is. Then one resorts to machinery. SignatureThe Bush administration should restrain itself from its imperial arrogance that has so alienated countries around the world. Their contempt for the United Nations in the dash to war with Iraq; their support of the coup in Venezuela in April 2002, and the continuing hostility toward President Chavez; the pressure on nations of the world to exempt the US from the International Criminal Court, now joined by their contemptuous attitude toward President Aristide must be halted. It is time for the people of the USA to make this point clear even if the administration continues to walk around with wax in its collective ears, with eyes closed, and ranting about its version of the world as defined by Bush. - Excerpt from TransAfrica statement on the situation in Haiti, 2/17/04 (http://www.transafricaforum.org/) > It is easier yet to address it by hand. That's what I usually do. SignatureTranspose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. > It is easier yet to address it by hand. How quickly we forget. I do that for some bill payment, I could print a standard Avery 5167 80 to a page label, I also use them for captioning labeling 35mm slides and they wok great for that purpose. > You still have to feed the envelope and make sure everything lines up. > Overall, a computer and printer are overkill for just addressing an > envelope, and it's easy to see why a typewriter might be better suited > to the task. My 1280 takes a hefty stack of envelopes as an auto loading feature, using an addressing program I might print out several hundred enevelopes at one time. I hardly want to do this using a typewriter. On 3/11/2004 9:40 AM Silvio Manuel spake thus: >> You still have to feed the envelope and make sure everything lines up. >> Overall, a computer and printer are overkill for just addressing an [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > using an addressing program I might print out several hundred enevelopes > at one time. I hardly want to do this using a typewriter. Well, duh; if one has a database of names for a mailing list, and a printer and software capable of printing envelopes, then of course this would be the way to do it. I was talking about the case of addressing a single envelope. So what's the term that means the opposite of a Luddite? SignatureThe Bush administration should restrain itself from its imperial arrogance that has so alienated countries around the world. Their contempt for the United Nations in the dash to war with Iraq; their support of the coup in Venezuela in April 2002, and the continuing hostility toward President Chavez; the pressure on nations of the world to exempt the US from the International Criminal Court, now joined by their contemptuous attitude toward President Aristide must be halted. It is time for the people of the USA to make this point clear even if the administration continues to walk around with wax in its collective ears, with eyes closed, and ranting about its version of the world as defined by Bush. - Excerpt from TransAfrica statement on the situation in Haiti, 2/17/04 (http://www.transafricaforum.org/) David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in news:4050A673.8080505 @but.us.chickens: > So what's the term that means the opposite of a Luddite? Geek. Signatureremove the backwards "SPAM" to reply. > So what's the term that means the opposite of a Luddite? Businessman or Omnibudsman? > So what's the term that means the opposite of a Luddite? Geek, or equipment geek, or gadget freak. SignatureTranspose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. > My 1280 takes a hefty stack of envelopes as an auto loading feature, > using an addressing program I might print out several hundred enevelopes > at one time. I hardly want to do this using a typewriter. None of my printers is readily able to handle envelopes. Even if they were, I can't recall ever having several hundred envelopes to address at once. I might consider stick-on labels if I could find some that were laser-safe and reusable (in the sense that I could print one and peel it off and still pass the remainder of the sheet through the printer again and again). Even then, it requires changing the feed setting of the printer, verifying alignment, and all kinds of stuff I've thought that the really ideal thing would be to have a tiny dot-matrix printer with an endless roll of stick-on labels, but I haven't seen tiny stand-alone printers like that in ages, and that would be a lot of trouble to go to for just the occasional label. Another option I use for large numbers of envelopes is the same as that used by large companies: I use envelopes with windows and print the address on a spot aligned with the window on the sheets inside. Much easier than trying to print on an envelope or a sticky label. SignatureTranspose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. > Dragging the typewriter out and clearing a new space does have > issues. > What if the ribbon os dried out? Since I have a continous ink feeding > system I virtually never need ink.....at least not in almost two > years. Our typewriter stays out, and we use carbon film ribbons, which do not dry out. And there's a spare in the supply closet. Bob Signatureremove the backwards "SPAM" to reply. > 2. Start up computer, wait for it to boot. You turn your computer off? (But yes, I use a typewriter for envelopes at home.) > Does anyone know of a >typewriter still in service? Still in service ? Scads. Just look at ; http://www.officetronics.com/index.cfm/vAction/product/vProductID/9 Not to forget Ebay. Most moldy goldies sell for $40 in mint condition. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email > > ... typewriters still in service? > ... Scads: > http://www.officetronics.com/index.cfm/vAction/product/vProductID/9 But they are not really typewriters, are they? They seem to be word processors without disk drives (though some do have floppies). The old 50lb early 50's Remington Rands, now those were typewriters, with a touch so heavy even Ahnold would feel at home. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio nolindan@ix.netcom.com Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. > But they are not really typewriters, are they? They seem to be > word processors without disk drives (though some do have > floppies). > > The old 50lb early 50's Remington Rands, now those were typewriters, > with a touch so heavy even Ahnold would feel at home. I was curious about typewriters for much the same reason as this thread (comparisons of obsolescent technologies) and found: www.mytypewriter.com For what it's worth, my office has an old Selectric, which we *also* use for filling out some occasional preprinted forms that haven't been computerized yet. Rob Dean >> > ... typewriters still in service? >> ... Scads: >> http://www.officetronics.com/index.cfm/vAction/product/vProductID/9 > >But they are not really typewriters, are they? Daisy wheel printers. Not really a typewriter but closer than a computer. Regards, John S. Douglas, Photographer - http://www.darkroompro.com Please remove the "_" when replying via email My IBM moel "B" was 63 pounds and chugged like an idling B24. Signaturehttp://www.chapelhillnoir.com home of The Camera-ist's Manifesto The Improved Links Pages are at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html A sample chapter from my novel "Haight-Ashbury" is at http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html > > > ... typewriters still in service? > > ... Scads: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio nolindan@ix.netcom.com > Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. > My IBM moel "B" was 63 pounds and chugged like an idling B24. news:9nP0c.28311$W74.24438@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > > > ... typewriters still in service? > > > ... Scads: http://www.officetronics.com/index.cfm/vAction/product/vProductID/9 > > But they are not really typewriters, are they? They seem to be > > word processors without disk drives (though some do have [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio nolindan@ix.netcom.com > > Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. I forgot that I still have one of the beauties stored somwhere. It drives the type bars from a roller which runs continuously. I would compare the chugging more to an Alco diesel. You know that if a type bar ever hit your finger it would go right through. Signature--- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com It's still perfectly possible to buy typewriters news, so yes, they are still in use. Manual portable typewriters continue to be popular. There isn't always a place to plug things in, and a manual typewriter is still faster and neater than writing by hand. Remember that some people still write things out longhand--for them, a typewriter is still more technology than they care for. SignatureTranspose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. > > > ... typewriters still in service? > > ... Scads: http://www.officetronics.com/index.cfm/vAction/product/vProductID/9 > But they are not really typewriters, are they? They seem to be > word processors without disk drives (though some do have [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio nolindan@ix.netcom.com > Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics. The worst were Underwoods, you had to be built like Popeye to use one. Signature--- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com > mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > > With all my expounding on oil paint vs acrylic > (silver vs digital, movies vs TV ...), I > overlooked one thing. Does anyone know of a > typewriter still in service? Yes, I do. Do you need one? Serious query. My BIL has quite a collection, and he uses them. I haven't used a typewriter to write anything of length since 1988, but there has been a working typewriter in every government office in which I've worked, because filling out analog forms neatly requires it. It is a tool that has its place, like every other tool. And typing has at least some retro chic: http://www.typingexplosion.com/ > mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > http://www.heylloyd.com > ________________________________ > mar104 from Lloyd Erlick, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > http://www.heylloyd.com > ________________________________ I have a c.1937 Royal office manual which I occasionally use. I taught myself to touch type on this machine many years ago. I have a couple of other manual machines and a good electric stored away somewhere. The old Royal is something of a piece of sculpture as well as a usable machine. I payed $3 for it in a thrift shop long ago and probably put that much in Naphtha through it to clean it. You can still get ribbons for these things. I still use it once in a while, mostly to keep my fingers strong. OTOH, the computer is a god-send because I am not a particularly accurate typist. I don't think I would undertake any serious writing on a typwriter if I could use a word processor. Royal had a pattented action and were IMHO the best of the manual machines. Signature--- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@ix.netcom.com |
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