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drhowarddrfinedrhoward - 26 Feb 2004 06:17 GMT
I found a used Beseler 45M enlarger.  Now I'm looking for a lens board for
it.  I noticed some lens boards come with an "illuminator".  What is that
for and how is it used?
David Nebenzahl - 26 Feb 2004 06:32 GMT
On 2/25/2004 10:17 PM drhowarddrfinedrhoward spake thus:

> I found a used Beseler 45M enlarger.  Now I'm looking for a lens board for
> it.  I noticed some lens boards come with an "illuminator".  What is that
> for and how is it used?

It's a little plastic piece that goes through the board, basically a light
pipe that shines light (from behind the lens) on the aperture scale so you can
see it.

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Jean-David Beyer - 26 Feb 2004 18:26 GMT
> On 2/25/2004 10:17 PM drhowarddrfinedrhoward spake thus:
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> light pipe that shines light (from behind the lens) on the aperture
> scale so you can see it.

Except they are never bright enough to see the scale in the dark.

So I just count clicks. One of my lenses permits me to turn off the
click-stops, but I do not do that.

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David Nebenzahl - 26 Feb 2004 18:41 GMT
On 2/26/2004 10:26 AM Jean-David Beyer spake thus:

>> On 2/25/2004 10:17 PM drhowarddrfinedrhoward spake thus:
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> So I just count clicks. One of my lenses permits me to turn off the
> click-stops, but I do not do that.

The best solution is Rodenstock's "pre-set" aperture lock; set it, and one
simple twist and you're at your selected stop. Now if only my other lenses had
that feature ...

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don't make the mistake of thinking US foreign policy was set by Norman
Podhoretz or William Kristol. They're the clowns capering about in front of
the donkey and the elephant. The donkey says the UN should clean up after
them, and the elephant now says the donkey may have a point. Somebody has
come out with a dustpan and broom.

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Nicholas O. Lindan - 26 Feb 2004 19:23 GMT
> > > Beseler lens boards come with an "illuminator".

> Except they are never bright enough to see the scale in the dark.

Agreed.  Probably has to do with fogging color paper if they were
brighter.

But then, most modern lenses have illuminated f-stops making the
Beseler illuminator redundant.

> So I just count clicks.

That I don't do, what with two turrets worth of lenses the internal
dialog goes as: "Lets see, the 135 is an f4, or is it an f5.6,
and are the clicks full stop or half stop?  They are half
stop on the 105 so ... no that one's a Rodenstock and this
ones a Nikkor ... or is it the other way around.  Turn on the
bloody light..."

I like the illuminated f-stop dials on most lenses.  On the ones
that aren't illuminated I now use a little homemade red LED penlight.

I invariably have the 'Did I stop the lens down doubts' as my
finger hovers over the timer's 'expose' button.

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Bob Salomon - 26 Feb 2004 21:53 GMT
> I invariably have the 'Did I stop the lens down doubts' as my
> finger hovers over the timer's 'expose' button.

Modern optics like the Rodagon, Apo-Rodagon, etc. have not only an
illuminated aperture but also a dis-engageable click stop control and a
pre-set aperture which allows you to go directly between open aperture
and the aperture you want to print at. This takes away those doubts.

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Robert Feinman - 26 Feb 2004 14:25 GMT
> I found a used Beseler 45M enlarger.  Now I'm looking for a lens board for
> it.  I noticed some lens boards come with an "illuminator".  What is that
> for and how is it used?

It shines a little red light on the f stop numbers when the
enlarger light is on so you can read them in the dark.
Just count clicks as you turn the ring instead..
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drhowarddrfinedrhoward - 26 Feb 2004 15:10 GMT
Thanks guys.

Is the light a concern when doing color development?
Scott Schuckert - 26 Feb 2004 16:44 GMT
> Is the light a concern when doing color development?

I did color enlarging with the illuminated lensboards for years without
issues; never thought about it until now. Still, theoretically you
MIGHT get a little scatter - not that the illumination was all that
useful anyway, at least with my eyes. I always counted clicks.
Nick Zentena - 26 Feb 2004 17:12 GMT
> Thanks guys.
>
> Is the light a concern when doing color development?

 Some of my lensboards have it. They were all bought used and in every case
the thing was blocked up one way or the other so it doesn't work. So
somebody decided it wasn't worth having.

    I doubt the light would effect colour too much. Some of the newer
lenses light up the aperture.

      Nick
 
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