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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / Australian Photography / February 2009Old cars (pics)
I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? http://atlantic-diesel.com/  Signature---- Focus Flying with Windows 7 > I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never > heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? > > http://atlantic-diesel.com/ Stop x posting to aus.photo >> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never >> heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? >> >> http://atlantic-diesel.com/ >> > Stop x posting to aus.photo Stop posting and reading in aus.photo Signature---- Focus Flying with Windows 7 > I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never > heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? > > http://atlantic-diesel.com/ Pretty nice stuff there. I could have used the steel "I" beam they have next to the car in the first shot. Most of those cars look like they are from the sixties and seventies. > I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never > heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? > > http://atlantic-diesel.com/ I heard that Portugese roads were hard on vehicles. I guess you just confimed that!! You have quite the photogenic group there. Well, I see two different Datsun grills, a Peugeot, Renault, Fords Zephyr & Taurus, what looks like a stripped Riley, a Humber, and a Sunbeam amongst the pile. The Aronde was a Simca last built in 1963. Did all the 60's Rootes (Sunbeam & Simca), EuroFord and British Leyland vehicles go to Portugal to die? SignatureRegards, Savageduck >> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never >> heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Did all the 60's Rootes (Sunbeam & Simca), EuroFord and British Leyland > vehicles go to Portugal to die? And a Nissan, a Nissan Truck, and possibly an Austin Mini ..... and a 'Steam Roller', which /might/ be a Volvo. Some look quite restorable, as well. Clint >>> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never >>> heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Clint The Nissan truck is actually a camper or what is left of it. Strange thing about that one, is the headlights look brand new, while the rest is rust. Signature---- Focus Flying with Windows 7 >>>> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never >>>> heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Strange thing about that one, is the headlights look brand new, while > the rest is rust. Yeah, I noticed that. Maybe a last-ditch effort to save it or at least keep it legal enough to drive rather than an expensive towing it to it's final resting place? All in all, though, that place would be a gold mine for parts and possible restos. I know there are several there I'd grab....! Clint > I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never > heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? > > http://atlantic-diesel.com/ I believe the green one in the first photo started life as an English Ford "Consul". Simca's "Aronde" was imported to the USA for a short time in the late 1950s-early1960s. Some models had an engine based on the pre-WWII Ford V8-60, if I recall correctly. Or it may have been the convertible "Plein Ciel"; I dunno. Each of those hulks played a significant role in someon's life. Imagine. SignatureFrank ess >> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never >> heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I believe the green one in the first photo started life as an English > Ford "Consul". I am not too sure about that being a Consul which had slightly accentuated tail fins. It then passed on styling genes to the Anglia which morphed into the Escort. The Consul became the Granada. I think the car in the first photo is probably a mid-50's Vauxhall Velox. Also noted is the Mini just behind it. I noticed a Honda and a VW Golf are also represented > Simca's "Aronde" was imported to the USA for a short time in the late > 1950s-early1960s. Some models had an engine based on the pre-WWII Ford > V8-60, if I recall correctly. Or it may have been the convertible > "Plein Ciel"; I dunno. I don't think there was a Simca which ever had an engine based on a Ford V8 You will find the early 50's Aronde had a FIAT based 4 cylinder engine. > Each of those hulks played a significant role in someon's life. Imagine. For most of us working stiff motorheads of all nationalities, cars of any age, type and price point have always been the machine to open the door to the promise of significant life change (until the first problem reared its ugly head.) Getting that drivers license has been a rite of passage for adolescents the World over. SignatureRegards, Savageduck >>> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've >>> never heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I think the car in the first photo is probably a mid-50's Vauxhall > Velox. Also noted is the Mini just behind it. I must have been thinking of the Anglia (if that can be called thinking - memory is the second thing to go), and I still like the shape for the green one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/1960.ford.anglia.100E.arp.750 pix.jpg or http://tinyurl.com/crtl2h > I noticed a Honda and a VW Golf are also represented >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Ford V8 You will find the early 50's Aronde had a FIAT based 4 > cylinder engine. It was the Simca Vedette. Oops. http://www.btc-bci.com/~billben/french.htm >> Each of those hulks played a significant role in someon's life. >> Imagine. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Getting that drivers license has been a rite of passage for > adolescents the World over. The whole thing got some of us stuck there, too. Cheers! SignatureFrank ess >>>> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've >>>> never heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > or > http://tinyurl.com/crtl2h I think that is the one. I checked on The Vauxhall and that has a larger body. I didn't think Consul, but that 1960 Anglia seems to be the perfect fit. Good eye. >> I noticed a Honda and a VW Golf are also represented >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It was the Simca Vedette. Oops. > http://www.btc-bci.com/~billben/french.htm OK! that makes sense. Chrysler really created a mess when they bought Rootes so they could gain entry to the European market. They pretty much ran Talbot, Simca, Singer, Hillman, Humber and Sunbeam (the Tiger had a Ford V8) into the ground. Alpines and Tigers are rare items now-a-days. >>> Each of those hulks played a significant role in someon's life. >>> Imagine. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The whole thing got some of us stuck there, too. I thought that was what tow trucks were for. Nostalgia can be an exercise to hold off old fartdom. Even if the nostalgia relates to old cars, planes and cameras. SignatureRegards, Savageduck >>>>> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've >>>>> never heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > Nostalgia can be an exercise to hold off old fartdom. > Even if the nostalgia relates to old cars, planes and cameras. I had a Simca in high school, 1966. It was a '56 IIRC. Small four banger. Paid $40 for it. Looked like someone had painted it with a broom. Steve >I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never >heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? > >http://atlantic-diesel.com/ I see that someone else in the thread is aware (or thinks) that you live in Portugal. When you refer to "home", it would be nice if you'd tell us where "home" is. The "Aronde" was made by Simca. SignatureTony Cooper - Orlando, Florida >> I found these old cars on the way back home. Some of them I've never >> heard of, like the "Aronde". Anybody know about them? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The "Aronde" was made by Simca. Home is Torres Vedras, Portugal. About 40 km north of Lisbon. The Simca is right. I found it on Google. They had one with a clock in the steering wheel! Must be funny on a curved road, like they have so many here:"What time is it?" "10 to 2, no, 3 o'clock, no 20 to twelve... ;-) Signature---- Focus Flying with Windows 7 Focus wrote,on my timestamp of 17/02/2009 11:08 PM: > The Simca is right. I found it on Google. They had one with a clock in > the steering wheel! Must be funny on a curved road, like they have so > many here:"What time is it?" > "10 to 2, no, 3 o'clock, no 20 to twelve... ;-) My grandpa had one of those. Same grey colour. It served him well for many years before replacing it with another Simca. He religiously covered the engine with a blanket every night, and the car never failed to start in the morning. Still have to understand why... >Focus wrote,on my timestamp of 17/02/2009 11:08 PM: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >He religiously covered the engine with a blanket every night, and the car never >failed to start in the morning. Still have to understand why... What ? Why he covered it with the blanket.... or that it never failed to start ??? tony@altavista.com wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 1:55 AM: >>> The Simca is right. I found it on Google. They had one with a clock in >>> the steering wheel! Must be funny on a curved road, like they have so [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > What ? Why he covered it with the blanket.... or that it never failed > to start ??? Both. The correlation between them. > tony@altavista.com wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 1:55 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Both. The correlation between them. I have in the past done that too. The electrics were so poorly made in those days, keeping the engine dry or free from dew was an extra guarantee it would start and not begin what was know as "tracking" where the oil/grease build up developed an electrical path and when you hit it with 20,000 volts, would run down the track instead go to the right place. Line of least resistance stuff. D-Mac wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 12:59 PM: >> tony@altavista.com wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 1:55 AM: >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > path and when you hit it with 20,000 volts, would run down the track instead > go to the right place. Line of least resistance stuff. Makes sense. Thanks. >> tony@altavista.com wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 1:55 AM: >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >path and when you hit it with 20,000 volts, would run down the track instead >go to the right place. Line of least resistance stuff. Ummm, removing the grease build up would be a better idea. I would be interested to know how one of Onkaparinga's best over the top of the donk stops condensation in the dizzy. Do you throw a nice thick woolly blanket into your camera bag on a cold night to stop your lenses fogging in the morning? (that was really just a feeble attempt to drag something nearly on topic into the discussion) In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Noons <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > tony@altavista.com wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 1:55 AM: >>>> The Simca is right. I found it on Google. They had one with a clock in >>>> the steering wheel! Must be funny on a curved road, like they have so [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> What ? Why he covered it with the blanket.... or that it never failed >> to start ??? > Both. The correlation between them. Warmer engines start more easily. especially those whose carburation is done by old fashioned carburretters. If it's too cold you don't get a good enough evaporation and mix and petrol vapour with air for combustion. SignatureChris Malcolm >tony@altavista.com wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 1:55 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Both. The correlation between them. Maybe there is none. I have never covered my daily drive's engine with a blanket. It has never failed to start. I have another car in my garage that has a blanket over it, it has not started in 10 years. beware of post hoc ergo propter hoc. >>tony@altavista.com wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 1:55 AM: >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Maybe there is none. And maybe there is. Depends on temperatures (ambient, air and metal) and type of aspiration. Blankets back then, electric block-warmers today. > I have never covered my daily drive's engine with a blanket. It has > never failed to start. As me dear grandmama used to say, 'it's not because of it, it's in spite of it'. ! <joke, BTW> But again, the same answer as above. > I have another car in my garage that has a blanket over it, it has not > started in 10 years. If it hasn't started in 10 years, it needs far more than a blanket! Maybe a few organ transplants, fresh bodily fluids and the electroshock paddles would help....! > beware of post hoc ergo propter hoc. >>>tony@altavista.com wrote,on my timestamp of 18/02/2009 1:55 AM: >>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >As me dear grandmama used to say, 'it's not because of it, it's in spite >of it'. ! <joke, BTW> please see "post hoc ergo propter hoc" >But again, the same answer as above. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >> beware of post hoc ergo propter hoc. Avery wrote,on my timestamp of 19/02/2009 10:24 PM: > beware of post hoc ergo propter hoc. bless you! >Focus wrote,on my timestamp of 17/02/2009 11:08 PM: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >He religiously covered the engine with a blanket every night, and the car never >failed to start in the morning. Still have to understand why... May I suggest that if your grandpa was diligent enough to blanket the engine every night, he was probably diligent enough to have it well serviced, cleaned and adjusted - he may well have done it all himself. This probably had something to do with its reliability. Avery wrote,on my timestamp of 19/02/2009 10:13 PM: > engine every night, he was probably diligent enough to have it well > serviced, cleaned and adjusted - he may well have done it all himself. 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