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Photographing a motor sport event - BANNED

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Anonymous - 11 Dec 2008 16:16 GMT
A word of warning!!

After emailing the v8 Super Cars today, to see if they would like to use any of my images, and if any of their sponsors would be interested to use some for the advertising or promotional work would be nice to make a few dollars for my trouble, they don’t let you in the track for free!

I received this!

http://www.redbubble.com/people/davidiori/journal/2211348-my-last-v8-supercar-ev
ent-shoot

Bill Graham - 11 Dec 2008 21:45 GMT
>A word of warning!!
>
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> http://www.redbubble.com/people/davidiori/journal/2211348-my-last-v8-supercar-ev
ent-shoot

Why am I not surprised? - I am into music, and the same thing is true with
that art, too. A friend of mine and his group plays Dixieland jazz at the
local pizza parlor once a month. The other day he told me that some
organization that has copyrighted all the music ever written threatened to
sue the manager of the pizza parlor for letting his group play there. He
will have to pay them $500 before they will "allow" him to let them play
"their" music.....Since they own the copyrights to every song written during
the last 100 years or so, he has little choice but to tell my friend that he
can't play there anymore. These people couldn't write a song if their lives
depended on it. They are just making money off of the artistic talent of
others, most of whom are long dead and gone. At least, the operators of the
racetrack will still allow you to go there and take pictures........In the
music business, the fact that the pizza parlor does slightly more business
on that one night a month that my friend plays there is enough to force him
to stop the music. The racetrack owner might have to prevent anyone holding
a camera from entering the track property based on the off chance that
someone might  only go there because he likes to take pictures, so he is
making money off of photography, and they (apparently) own the photography
hobby.....Perhaps they have obtained copyrights on every scene on earth, so
no one can take a photograph of anything without violating their copyright
on it......It wouldn't surprise me.....I can't walk down the street
whistling a happy tune without some lawyer jumping out with his tape
recorder and yelling that he will see me in court......
Mxsmanic - 11 Dec 2008 22:17 GMT
> Why am I not surprised? - I am into music, and the same thing is true with
> that art, too. A friend of mine and his group plays Dixieland jazz at the
> local pizza parlor once a month. The other day he told me that some
> organization that has copyrighted all the music ever written threatened to
> sue the manager of the pizza parlor for letting his group play there.

There is no such organization.  But there are some organizations that
represent large numbers of artists (BMI, ASCAP in the United States) and
protect the copyrights they hold to music they've written.  If you want to
publicly perform their music, you have to pay them a royalty.

Some countries may have legislation empowering a single organization to act on
behalf of all artists, with or without the consent of the artists.

> These people couldn't write a song if their lives
> depended on it. They are just making money off of the artistic talent of
> others, most of whom are long dead and gone.

Especially when the organizations are legally mandated, very often they
continue to collect after an artist is dead, keeping the money unless and
until a legal heir shows up to claim it (and even then, they keep their cut).

> The racetrack owner might have to prevent anyone holding
> a camera from entering the track property based on the off chance that
> someone might  only go there because he likes to take pictures, so he is
> making money off of photography ...

Some places do this.  The reason for this is that they DO NOT own the
copyrights on photos taken at their events, so the only way to fully prevent
photos from being used in ways of which they don't approve is to forbid
cameras entirely so that no photos can be taken.  They can also try to stop
the commercial use of photos based on image rights for copyrighted and
trademarked logos, recognizable properties, and so on, but it's often easier
to just not allow cameras in to begin with.

> Perhaps they have obtained copyrights on every scene on earth, so
> no one can take a photograph of anything without violating their copyright
> on it......It wouldn't surprise me.....I can't walk down the street
> whistling a happy tune without some lawyer jumping out with his tape
> recorder and yelling that he will see me in court......

Some people do attempt to do exactly this, unfortunately.  In some
jurisdictions it works, in others it doesn't.
Bill Graham - 11 Dec 2008 22:27 GMT
>> Why am I not surprised? - I am into music, and the same thing is true
>> with
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> Some people do attempt to do exactly this, unfortunately.  In some
> jurisdictions it works, in others it doesn't.

I think my friend told me that if the music is over 75 years old, then it is
out of copyright, and he can play it anywhere.....He is looking for good
Dixieland pieces that meet that criteria. But, it probably means that he
will no longer be able to play requests from the audience.
 
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