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screw EBAY got www.oztion.com.au
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WildWally - 29 May 2008 05:05 GMT Why pay pal when not requiried ! They just want more money !
Pete D - 29 May 2008 05:55 GMT > Why pay pal when not requiried ! They just want more money ! Wacko the Diddle Oh, Oztion has nothing for sale dude, what the use of that?
Greg - 29 May 2008 23:34 GMT >> Why pay pal when not requiried ! They just want more money ! >> > Wacko the Diddle Oh, Oztion has nothing for sale dude, what the use of > that? http://www.eswap.com.au/
which I have heard being advertised isn't much better either.
bassett - 30 May 2008 02:46 GMT >>> Why pay pal when not requiried ! They just want more money ! >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > which I have heard being advertised isn't much better either. All these Auction houses work the same, and they all support the sellers in favour of the buyers,
As for using pay-pal, it's probably the lesser of the two evils, and it does offer some protection, I have a case going at the moment where the seller simply failed to deliver, and will not communicate, Pay-pal say they will sort it out, so I,ve got a 50 / 50 chance of getting my money back, which I wouldn't have had I used Direct Deposit.
Time will tell on that one and I will report the outcome,, if and when it's resolved
bassett
Rob. - 30 May 2008 03:32 GMT >>>>Why pay pal when not requiried ! They just want more money ! >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > All these Auction houses work the same, and they all support the sellers in > favour of the buyers, Well its neither, the winner is ebay.
> As for using pay-pal, it's probably the lesser of the two evils, and it > does offer some protection, I have a case going at the moment where the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > bassett bassett - 30 May 2008 06:15 GMT >>>>>Why pay pal when not requiried ! They just want more money ! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> bassett Sure Flea-bay is the winner, no argument there, but they also provide the medium for the sales in the first place, and frankly some of the other places are bloody pathetic, and simply don't have the range or selection of goods on offer. Sites like 4 sale 2 buy, E-swap, Oztion and even Trade-me, simply don't get the same amount of patronage that flea-bay seems to attract. Also some of the prices for music media on sites like Oztion, are simply over the top. Is it any wonder you never see a bidding list, or for that matter any bids.
As for there resent announcement about posting neutral or negative feedback no longer being an option, I posted neutral feedback today with out trouble.
On the question of removing the options of payment, If you buy from the same people , is there any reason why you can't simply by-pass flea-bay, and do a Direct deposit, with the same details you used before these restrictions came in. bassett
Atheist Chaplain - 30 May 2008 04:07 GMT >>>> Why pay pal when not requiried ! They just want more money ! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > say they will sort it out, so I,ve got a 50 / 50 chance of getting my > money back, which I wouldn't have had I used Direct Deposit. Actually you can go see your bank, explain the situation and provide as much documentation as you can, and do what is called a Charge Back where they take the money back from the account, the only time this is a problem is when its a professional scammer as they clean out and close accounts to avoid this. Its worked for me when I was Over charged by my previous ISP and they didn't want to do anything about it. YMMV
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> Time will tell on that one and I will report the outcome,, if and when > it's resolved > > bassett Eeyore - 30 May 2008 17:55 GMT > All these Auction houses work the same, and they all support the sellers in > favour of the buyers, Hmmm. Ebay's feedback rules seem to be veering in the opposite direction to what you suggest actually.
> As for using pay-pal, it's probably the lesser of the two evils, and it > does offer some protection, I have a case going at the moment where the > seller simply failed to deliver, and will not communicate, Pay-pal say > they will sort it out, so I,ve got a 50 / 50 chance of getting my money > back, which I wouldn't have had I used Direct Deposit. Absolutely right.
Paypal isn't perfect but it's a heck of a lot better than most other methods I can think of for paying for online auctions.
Graham
roughplanet - 31 May 2008 07:54 GMT bassett wrote:
>> All these Auction houses work the same, and they all support the sellers >> in >> favour of the buyers,
> Hmmm. Ebay's feedback rules seem to be veering in the opposite direction > to > what you suggest actually.
>> As for using pay-pal, it's probably the lesser of the two evils, and >> it >> does offer some protection, I have a case going at the moment where the >> seller simply failed to deliver, and will not communicate, Pay-pal say >> they will sort it out, so I,ve got a 50 / 50 chance of getting my money >> back, which I wouldn't have had I used Direct Deposit.
> Absolutely right. > Paypal isn't perfect but it's a heck of a lot better than most other > methods I > can think of for paying for online auctions. As I'm the first to kick a.s when things aren't right, I give credit where credit is due. PayPal's conversion rates are always pretty fair, and the service has saved me nearly AU$400 when two (2) eBay purchases went bad & the sellers refused to answer emails or refund my money.
Indeed, it's not perfect, but it's one hell of a lot better than any other so-called 'service' on the 'net. Having been burnt twice now, I simply won't use direct banking or Credit (in my case, Debit) Cards as they provide the buyer with no protection at all.
ruff
bassett - 31 May 2008 08:25 GMT > bassett wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > ruff I use a visa debit card account for pay-pal, then if it looks like it's about to go pair shaped I can empty the account [leaving a couple of dollars] before they complete the transaction, but once it's gone through, it's in the lap of the gods what happens, and so far I,ve only had to write off a couple of hundred dollars over a number of years, So it's a bit like paying Tax on by purchases. But we will see what happens this time, no doubt I will get an electronic non-answerable e-mail from someone in some dark land telling me the CD set has been sent, case closed, see you later . And how the hell do you refute the fact, it hasn't arrived. I suppose I could get a stat declaration, from our lady past mistress, at the village general store, together with a picture of her tits, as evidence. But would Rang'ee in Mumbai, take any notice. Who knows,, it all sounds like a Fred Eaglesmith song or saga, " The Sweeburg General store is Clos'in"
bassett
bassett - 31 May 2008 08:04 GMT >> All these Auction houses work the same, and they all support the sellers >> in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to what > you suggest actually. I've just had a case where the seller waited 8 days before sending the DVD, with zip communication from them. I only have myself to blame ordering from Argentina, but if you don't stick your toe in the water , you'll never know how hot is is'nt. But I ignored e-bays pop messages and posted a nutral feedback anyway.
As to e-bays bias towards buyers. I had an issue some time ago with s a seller who wanted direct deposit, but refused to supply her banking details. So I e-mailed the lady nicely and asked for them, Well actually I told the silly bitch if she wanted a sale to get off her fat arse and send me her banking details, She filled a claim for non-payment, which e-bay upheld, I posted negative feedback, she posted negative feedback,, E-bay removed her negative feedback but refued to remove mine, even though I could not comply with the sale, even if I wanted to. So if you come accross "MELZIE88" melk47@hotmail.com, send her my love.
bassett
>> As for using pay-pal, it's probably the lesser of the two evils, and >> it [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Graham Peter D - 30 May 2008 13:01 GMT >Why pay pal when not requiried ! They just want more money ! www.gumtree.com.au
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