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OSPREYS LOVE THE 40D!

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Annika1980 - 26 May 2008 01:13 GMT
Finally got around to taking some pics of ospreys today.
(I've only seen two or three before today.)
Had so much fun I decided to make a whole new gallery out of it.

http://www.pbase.com/bret/osprey
Troy Piggins - 26 May 2008 01:32 GMT
> Finally got around to taking some pics of ospreys today.
> (I've only seen two or three before today.)
> Had so much fun I decided to make a whole new gallery out of it.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/osprey

Some great shots in there.  Some 200mm and some 400mm.  Must've
been close to them.

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Annika1980 - 26 May 2008 04:15 GMT
> >http://www.pbase.com/bret/osprey
>
> Some great shots in there.  Some 200mm and some 400mm.  Must've
> been close to them.

Yes, the tricky part was floating on the water motionless like a dead
fish.
Focus - 26 May 2008 14:35 GMT
On May 25, 8:32 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo.com> wrote:

> >http://www.pbase.com/bret/osprey
>
> Some great shots in there. Some 200mm and some 400mm. Must've
> been close to them.

>Yes, the tricky part was floating on the water motionless like a dead
>fish.

I'd like to see a picture of that! I don't believe it for one second.
Floating on what water? The birds are eye level; was the nest floating on
the water as well? You seem much to close for that 400 mm. I don't think
these birds let you come so close.
And what's with the flash? How does that work at such a long distance?
Aha! I didn't think so....
Nice try

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Noons - 26 May 2008 14:53 GMT
Focus wrote,on my timestamp of 26/05/2008 11:35 PM:
> On May 25, 8:32 pm, Troy Piggins <usenet-0...@piggo.com> wrote:
>
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> Aha! I didn't think so....
> Nice try

Focus, that was a joke.  By exaggeration.
But don't even try to understand the flash
usage patterns. Just accept this:
1- pbase distorts all the exif info when it suits
brett that is does so.
2- he openly admits to change that info anyway.
3- trying to learn anything about photography from
the false info he puts out is like trying
to learn the Bible by reading the Koran.
4- as such, whatever you read in the exif
info in his pbase photos, ignore it: it's
most of the time false.
Just like most of his other claims, but that
is beside the point.
Annika1980 - 26 May 2008 18:26 GMT
a bunch of garbage.

Pbase does indeed screw up the EXIF info on the 40D.
It apparently doesn't recognize an external flash and it always lists
the camera as "Canon Canon EOS 40D."
I think that is because Canon screwed up and doubled up their name in
the "Model #" field.  The "Make" is Canon and the "Model" is Canon EOS
40D."  So both of them together read "Canon Canon EOS 40D."
That is something I have to remember to change on all my 40D pics.
I usually don;t worry about flash info because it is usually obvious
whether flash was used.  I take it as a compliment to my mad skillz
when someone can't tell.
FTR, I used flash in most of these Osprey shots.
Noons - 27 May 2008 13:58 GMT
Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 27/05/2008 3:26 AM:

> a bunch of garbage.
>
> Pbase does indeed screw up the EXIF info on the 40D.

another bunch of garbage, of course...

> I think that is because Canon screwed up and doubled up their name in
> the "Model #" field.  The "Make" is Canon and the "Model" is Canon EOS
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> when someone can't tell.
> FTR, I used flash in most of these Osprey shots.

and you blew the highlights as well, something
you spend heaps of time criticizing others for.
Of course, in your case it's "art" that obviously
makes Helen choke up.  Pity it's not terminal...

Anyways: have you tried shoving one of your
Canon raw files through "exiftool" and see what is
really there from the camera?  Just dump all the
exif into text and go through it with a fine comb.
Might actually be an artifact of the raw converter you
use, rather than Canon getting it wrong in the camera.
Just a suggestion.
Rita Berkowitz - 27 May 2008 14:11 GMT
> Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 27/05/2008 3:26 AM:
>
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>
> another bunch of garbage, of course...

What else did you expect?

> Anyways: have you tried shoving one of your
> Canon raw files through "exiftool" and see what is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> use, rather than Canon getting it wrong in the camera.
> Just a suggestion.

Needn't worry since Canon is releasing firmware next week to address that
problem as well as upgrading the color pallet from 16 to 256.  These are
great times we live in.

Rita
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Annika1980 - 27 May 2008 20:47 GMT
> Anyways: have you tried shoving one of your
> Canon raw files through "exiftool" and see what is
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> use, rather than Canon getting it wrong in the camera.
> Just a suggestion.

The issues I mentioned (Flash and Model info) are known issues with
pbase.
I use ACR to convert and it keeps all the EXIF data intact.
Annika1980 - 26 May 2008 18:30 GMT
> You seem much to close for that 400 mm. I don't think
> these birds let you come so close.

The key words in that statement being "I don't think."
That is one of the few times that I could actually get too close for
some of the 400mm shots.  The nest is on a pole about 5 yards from
shore.
I could get to within about 10 yards of them before the mama would get
upset.  There were many boaters coming and going on the boat dock
right beside the nest so I guess the birds are used to humans.

I also took a bunch of slides so I'll be eager to see if those came
out as well.  I think I'll have some good ones.

> And what's with the flash? How does that work at such a long distance?

It works great.  Didn't even need the Better Beamer for those.
Rita Berkowitz - 27 May 2008 01:12 GMT
>> Yes, the tricky part was floating on the water motionless like a dead
>> fish.
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> floating on the water as well? You seem much to close for that 400
> mm. I don't think these birds let you come so close.

Don't be so sure.  We have over a hundred of these on the shoreline of the
Chesapeake.  You can to about 15-20 feet of them if you don't mind wet feet
and the birds are pretty much domesticated and looking for handouts.  It's
more of a challenge shooting squirrels in my bird feeder.

> And what's with the flash? How does that work at such a long distance?
> Aha! I didn't think so....
> Nice try

He did good.  Usually these nests are positioned that the sun is in front of
you and behind your subject.  A good fill flash is always welcome.  I do see
a bit of cropping and the traditional overprocessing though.

Rita
Focus - 27 May 2008 14:17 GMT
>>> Yes, the tricky part was floating on the water motionless like a dead
>>> fish.
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> see
> a bit of cropping and the traditional overprocessing though.

Darn! I barely see birds here in Portugal. With the exception of the stork
and flamingo pictures.
Saw a few eagles, but they're so far away, it's useless even trying with my
75-300 :-(

I hear birds singing everywhere, but with the heavy rainfall lately, the
foliage is so thick, you can't see the damn things...
Noons - 27 May 2008 14:30 GMT
Focus wrote,on my timestamp of 27/05/2008 11:17 PM:

> Darn! I barely see birds here in Portugal. With the exception of the stork
> and flamingo pictures.
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> I hear birds singing everywhere, but with the heavy rainfall lately, the
> foliage is so thick, you can't see the damn things...

yeah, it's a problem there.  most end up
in the pan or at the local cafe, roasted...
hey Focus, you need to go to Sintra:
on the ramp to Castelo da Pena, there
are some magic shots to be taken,
particularly in bad weather.
Quinta da Regaleira is also mucho nice.
Here are two I took years ago at Pena:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/pena01.JPG
http://members.iinet.net.au/~nsouto/photos/pena03.JPG
 
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