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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / Australian Photography / May 2008A DAY AT THE BALLPARK!
Managed to slip over to the ballpark for a couple of innings during today's midday "Businessman's Special." http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96059963/original http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96060570 http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96060572 http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96060573 http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96061867 http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96061868 http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96061874 nice pics Bret > Managed to slip over to the ballpark for a couple of innings during > today's midday "Businessman's Special." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96061868 > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96061874 > Managed to slip over to the ballpark for a couple of innings during > today's midday "Businessman's Special." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96061868 > http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/96061874 Isn't this supposed to be aus.photo? Baseball here is as popular as a chaffed arse. > Isn't this supposed to be aus.photo? Baseball here is as popular as a > chaffed arse. Quite a few cricketers play it off season to keep their eye in. Can someone explain how the scoring works? |> Isn't this supposed to be aus.photo? Baseball here is as popular as a |> chaffed arse. | | Quite a few cricketers play it off season to keep their eye in. | | Can someone explain how the scoring works? It's really soft ball (in Australia) because the balls are quite soft by cricket ball standards. They have to be to have any hope of directional control hitting them with a round object. As much as I deplore the cross posting this bloke does and his idiotic mindset, the pictures are on-topic for aus.photo. - -- from Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. > As much as I deplore the cross posting this bloke does and his idiotic > mindset, the pictures are on-topic for aus.photo. What cross posted message????????????????????????? you are a dickhead Douglas. Another figment of your imagination. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > =THFO > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Sorry Douglas but you're wrong. A baseball is harder and I believe it travels faster and harder than a cricket ball or softball. Softball is similar to baseball but there are different rules. Softball pitches underhand, baseball pitches overhand. The field is smaller in softball than in baseball. The balls in softball are significantly larger than a regulation baseball. A softball measures between 11.88 and 12.13 inches in circumference and weighs between 6.25 and 7.00 ounces; a baseball measures between 9.00 and 9.25 inches in circumference and weighs between 5.00 and 5.25 ounces. The base paths in softball are several feet shorter than those in baseball. Helen > Sorry Douglas but you're wrong. A baseball is harder and I believe it > travels faster and harder than a cricket ball or softball. LOL! Written by someone who has obviously never faced a cricket ball at full flight. -- Jeff R. > > Sorry Douglas but you're wrong. A baseball is harder and I believe it > > travels faster and harder than a cricket ball or softball. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Jeff R. Have you ever faced a powerful line-drive about eye-level? Dare to catch that without a glove? On Apr 24, 9:08 am, "Jeff R." <contact...@this.ng> wrote: > "Helen" <helensilverb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > Jeff R. Have you ever faced a powerful line-drive about eye-level? Dare to catch that without a glove? I can imagine that you do all the time!! No cricket fielders have gloves, only the wicket keeper does. > On Apr 24, 9:08 am, "Jeff R." <contact...@this.ng> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I can imagine that you do all the time!! No cricket fielders have gloves, > only the wicket keeper does. "I can imagine that you do all the time!!" Funny.......NOT!!! Yes I know only the wicket keeper wears the glove. I did play ladies baseball since I was 15 years old, but hung up the old glove about 12 or so years ago. I was an infielder, mostly second base. I still have all my trophies. I started the game not knowing a thing, and left the game with an MVP trophy. I still love the game but I don't play anymore. I enjoy watching. On Apr 24, 9:08 am, "Jeff R." <contact...@this.ng> wrote: > "Helen" <helensilverb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > -- > Jeff R. Have you ever faced a powerful line-drive about eye-level? Dare to catch that without a glove? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ regularly done every day in Cricket, a good fast bowler in Cricket can bowl the ball at over 160 kph and it regularly comes off the bat at even greater speed, there is a few positions in Cricket where the fielder is within 20' of the batsman and they regularly catch those very fast balls without the aid of sissy gloves. I have played Cricket and Baseball in my younger days and I wouldn't want to be hit by either, but I would say that a cricket ball is not only harder than a baseball but a lot tougher as well.  Signature"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg > A baseball is harder and I believe it > travels faster and harder than a cricket ball. > Helen Actually that's wrong. A Cricket ball is harder and travels faster and is more unpredictable and does more damage when it hits a player in unprotected areas. Having coached both games I can attest to this. > > A baseball is harder and I believe it > > travels faster and harder than a cricket ball. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and does more damage when it hits a player in unprotected areas. > Having coached both games I can attest to this. I don't agree with you, but respect your opinion. I agree with this guy: http://www.stevepinto.com/Baseball_Equipment/Baseball_Gloves/1035.html >>> A baseball is harder and I believe it >>> travels faster and harder than a cricket ball. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.stevepinto.com/Baseball_Equipment/Baseball_Gloves/1035.html But you don't believe what was said five paragraphs later? :-) "Baseballs and cricket-balls seem to be pretty much the same in hardness and dimensions, both are leather covered cork and about 5inches across. Both are about 5oz - cricket balls are slightly heavier. Both are regularly propelled at over 90mph. Both can be hit over a hundred yards into the outfield." > >>> A baseball is harder and I believe it > >>> travels faster and harder than a cricket ball. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > about 5oz - cricket balls are slightly heavier. Both are regularly propelled > at over 90mph. Both can be hit over a hundred yards into the outfield." I know first hand how hard and fast a baseball can come at you, and I was on the field a couple of times during a cricket match. I witnessed the speed and strength of both sports. My humble opinion, is just that, my opinion. On researching it, one source says one thing another source says another. Who do you believe? I tired of it easy and lost interest, so to each his own. For me it's not worth debating over. >>> A baseball is harder and I believe it >>> travels faster and harder than a cricket ball. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.stevepinto.com/Baseball_Equipment/Baseball_Gloves/1035.html Still wrong. > A baseball is harder and I believe it > travels faster and harder than a cricket ball. > Helen Actually that's wrong. A Cricket ball is harder and travels faster and is more unpredictable and does more damage when it hits a player in unprotected areas. Having coached both games I can attest to this. > > A baseball is harder and I believe it > > travels faster and harder than a cricket ball. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and does more damage when it hits a player in unprotected areas. > Having coached both games I can attest to this. I know first hand how hard and fast a baseball can come at you, and I was on the field a couple of times during a cricket match. I witnessed the speed and strength of both sports. My humble opinion, is just that, my opinion. On researching it, one source says one thing another source says another. Who do you believe? I tired of it easy and lost interest, so to each his own. For me it's not worth debating over. > I know first hand how hard and fast a baseball can come at you, and I > was on the field a couple of times during a cricket match. I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > easy and lost interest, so to each his own. For me it's not worth > debating over. No it isn't when you have been proven wrong. Just admit you are wrong and all will be right with the world. > > I know first hand how hard and fast a baseball can come at you, and I > > was on the field a couple of times during a cricket match. I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > No it isn't when you have been proven wrong. > Just admit you are wrong and all will be right with the world. You have proven nothing. Get a life man! On Apr 25, 8:28 am, Smeeegles <m...@here.net.au> wrote: > Helen wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > No it isn't when you have been proven wrong. > Just admit you are wrong and all will be right with the world. You have proven nothing. Get a life man! have you ever played cricket ?? No ?? Well as I have previously said I have played both, a Baseball is not as hard or as sturdy as a cricket ball, and it is regularly hit and fielded by players close in to the batsman with ball speed in excess of 100 miles per hour and all without the aid of a sissy glove, you may as well carry a bucket if you have so little skill in catching a ball. SignatureGod made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? > On Apr 25, 8:28 am, Smeeegles <m...@here.net.au> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > -- > God made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? "have you ever played cricket ?? " Sorry to disappoint you AC but I did in fact play cricket. Twice. And I still disagree with you. I'm not trying to knock it, it's a great sport, but for me personally I just find the game boring. We use gloves in baseball because it's common sense....injuries, (and by the way, I broke a thumb and a finger while wearing a glove and catching a powerful line drive). Just as cricket players wear those well-padded shin protectors. Does that make them sissies? Of course not. It's just common sense. As I said, it's all in one's taste, and one's opinion. On Apr 25, 9:49 am, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote: > "Helen" <helensilverb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > -- > God made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? "have you ever played cricket ?? " Sorry to disappoint you AC but I did in fact play cricket. Twice. And I still disagree with you. I'm not trying to knock it, it's a great sport, but for me personally I just find the game boring. We use gloves in baseball because it's common sense....injuries, (and by the way, I broke a thumb and a finger while wearing a glove and catching a powerful line drive). Just as cricket players wear those well-padded shin protectors. Does that make them sissies? Of course not. It's just common sense. As I said, it's all in one's taste, and one's opinion. when the glove gives the catcher an area the size of a bucket to catch the ball it sort of takes the skill away doesn't it. broken fingers are a rare occurrence in Cricket because the players are taught the correct way to catch, they don't rely on artificial aids like a glove with an artificially enlarged target zone so yes I still call them sissy. Professional cricketers regularly catch sky balls while on the run and diving all without the aid of gloves, in fielders catch balls hit at high speed without gloves, often while diving etc. On the other hand Baseball players can accurately hit fast moving balls with a round bat and I know from experience that its not an easy thing to do, both games have their different skill sets, its just that using a glove to catch a ball inst one of them. The reason that Cricketers wear pads is because unlike baseball it is quite legal for a bowler to bowl AT the batsman, if you can get it to bounce around their head and intimidate them then all the better. If a Pitcher aims for a batsman and hits him, he gives away a base run, if a bowler hits a batsman, we tell the batsman to either hit it or get out of the way. but I do have to agree with you, cricket is a game of patience and can drag on, Baseball is fast and exciting by comparison :-) If you get the chance and you can get it on cable TV, try and catch a game of 20 Twenty cricket, the purists hate it but it is probably as fast and exciting as baseball, there is a major competition going on as we speak. SignatureGod made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? On Apr 25, 9:49 am, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote: > "Helen" <helensilverb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > -- > God made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? "have you ever played cricket ?? " >>Sorry to disappoint you AC but I did in fact play cricket. Twice. >>And I still disagree with you. I'm not trying to knock it, it's a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>not. It's just common sense. >>As I said, it's all in one's taste, and one's opinion. Played twice so you have all the answers, good for you and I bet you played at a really high level too. What a gal. ROFL. > On Apr 25, 9:49 am, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > ROFL. I merely stated my opinion as a participant and an observer. YOU on the other hand are the one that seems to have all the snide smart-a.s answers. A lovely example you're setting. On Apr 26, 3:15 am, "Pete D" <n...@email.com> wrote: > "Helen" <helensilverb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > ROFL. I merely stated my opinion as a participant and an observer. YOU on the other hand are the one that seems to have all the snide smart-a.s answers. A lovely example you're setting. Good for you, excellent response. Keep it up, you expert you! > On Apr 26, 3:15 am, "Pete D" <n...@email.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Good for you, excellent response. Keep it up, you expert you! Poor Pete, you really are a contemptuous, sarcastic, sneering cad. >> On Apr 26, 3:15 am, "Pete D" <n...@email.com> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > Poor Pete, you really are a contemptuous, sarcastic, sneering cad. And you my little child are a poor sport who painted herself into a corner and then has the gall to say you are an expert painter and know all things about painting based on opinion and limited experience. It's much easier for you to say "I'm sorry I gave my opinion but I have listened to your and yes you are correct thank you for showing me the way. I have shown your posts to some of my sporting colleagues who teach and coach baseball and cricket, have played it all their sporting lives and their opinion of you is much less flattering than anything I have posted. Just say "I am wrong, a baseball is not harder than a cricket ball." Instead of "I tired of it easy and lost interest, so to each his own. For me it's not worth debating over." Yet you then argue on and on even though the wight of numbers and facts have shown you up to be a spoilt little child. >> On Apr 25, 9:49 am, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > the other hand are the one that seems to have all the snide smart-a.s > answers. A lovely example you're setting. You gave an erroneous opinion, you were shown up yet you still won't back down and admit you were wrong. You really are an obstinate spoilt little girl aren't you? >> On Apr 25, 8:28 am, Smeeegles <m...@here.net.au> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > not. It's just common sense. > As I said, it's all in one's taste, and one's opinion. Womwn's cricket is just not cricket child. You are still wrong in your assertion that a baseball is harder than a cricket ball. For someone who said this " I tired of it easy and lost interest, so to each his own. For me it's not worth debating over." You are sure taking your time quitting this debate. Admit you are wrong in your original asertion child and all will be fine. >>> I know first hand how hard and fast a baseball can come at you, and I >>> was on the field a couple of times during a cricket match. I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You have proven nothing. > Get a life man! I'm not the one who cowered away from the argument. "I tired of it easy and lost interest, so to each his own. For me it's not worth debating over." You started this was proven wrong and took your bat and ball and went home like a spoilt little girl. Admit you made a mistake It's that simple child. > You started this was proven wrong and took your bat and ball and went > home like a spoilt little girl. > Admit you made a mistake It's that simple child. It is obvious who is acting like the spoiled child. BTW, Donald Bradman was a fag. >> You started this was proven wrong and took your bat and ball and went >> home like a spoilt little girl. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > BTW, Donald Bradman was a fag. Oi! Ease up on "The Don"! SignatureTroy Piggins I always appreciate critique. On Apr 26, 8:05 pm, Smeeegles <m...@here.net.au> wrote: > You started this was proven wrong and took your bat and ball and went > home like a spoilt little girl. > Admit you made a mistake It's that simple child. It is obvious who is acting like the spoiled child. BTW, Donald Bradman was a fag. he may well have been but Donald Bradman was the "Man" in the relationship he was having with "Babe" Ruth, I heard the "Babe" got his name because he liked to dress up in women's clothing and try and pick up sailors ;-) SignatureGod made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? > BTW, Donald Bradman was a fag. > > he may well have been but Donald Bradman was the "Man" in the relationship > he was having with "Babe" Ruth, I heard the "Babe" got his name because he > liked to dress up in women's clothing and try and pick up sailors ;-) The Babe was more man than you'll ever be and more woman than you'll ever get. On Apr 27, 8:18 am, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote: > BTW, Donald Bradman was a fag. > > he may well have been but Donald Bradman was the "Man" in the relationship > he was having with "Babe" Ruth, I heard the "Babe" got his name because he > liked to dress up in women's clothing and try and pick up sailors ;-) The Babe was more man than you'll ever be and more woman than you'll ever get. can give it but can't take it eh Brett ?? Signature"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg > > he may well have been but Donald Bradman was the "Man" in the relationship > > he was having with "Babe" Ruth, I heard the "Babe" got his name because he [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > can give it but can't take it eh Brett ?? I don't take it like Bradman did. On Apr 27, 8:15 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote: > > he may well have been but Donald Bradman was the "Man" in the > > relationship [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > can give it but can't take it eh Brett ?? I don't take it like Bradman did. you know this could go on for ages Brett, the fact remains you like to dish sh.t out on Other countries hero's/legends yet when the tables are turned you get all huffy. admit it, your a petulant little girly man :-) I heard that Greg Luganis liked to swallow cock before a big race, he said the semen added extra boynacy. I also heard that they are training Monkeys to drive NASCAR because lets face it they only have to learn how to turn to the left, and the IQ of the drivers would double overnight. Signature"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg > you know this could go on for ages Brett, the fact remains you like to dish > sh.t out on Other countries hero's/legends yet when the tables are turned > you get all huffy. Not true. I could care less what you say about most Americans because it would probably be true. This goes double for our beloved leader, Dumbya. But even you have to admit that cricket isn't even a sport. Hell, when is the last time you've ever heard of a real sport stopped for tea? On Apr 27, 10:27 pm, "Atheist Chaplain" <abu...@cia.gov> wrote: > you know this could go on for ages Brett, the fact remains you like to > dish > sh.t out on Other countries hero's/legends yet when the tables are turned > you get all huffy. >Not true. I could care less what you say about most Americans because >it would probably be true. This goes double for our beloved leader, >Dumbya. >But even you have to admit that cricket isn't even a sport. Hell, >when is the last time you've ever heard of a real sport stopped for >tea? Granted, to someone who thinks that having only one country compete makes it a "World Series" cricket doesn't look like a sport, but then putting shoulder pads the size of a VW beetle and a helmet while running for all of 30 seconds before you get a rest doesn't look like much of a sport either. as to your President, you have my deepest sympathies :-) Signature"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg Thought I would ignite this old debate. Will not resort to purile name calling or boorish trash talking.. will make the point in numbered point form. Cricket is superior and here is why 1. The ball bounces off the ground before it reaches the batsman (batter). This small fact increases the variables exponentially compared to a ball in flight that does not bounce. A bouncing ball can change direction, speed, height, pitch and angle. A non-bouncing ball can only change direction (and at 100mph that is a serious problem with a round bat granted- but nothing like a hard spun leg-spinner that drifts in and then pitches and spins..eg..) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qfE-2mf6_50 2. As the batsmans' main job is to defend his wicket (those 3 sticks) he places his body BEHIND the line of flight of the ball and therefore into harms way.. eg http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=w-f5pfBgpNE 3. The game is played on a natural surface that deteriorates over the 5 days of a test match.. so not only does the batsman have to contend with points 1&2 above, there is an added randomness in that the ball can land on the same spot twice in a row and do two completely different things.. all at 90mph and trying to protect your stumps (those three sticks) and your own body at the same time. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0cMGWRLoqAg 4. No gloves on the fielders. A catch without a mit is considered a miracle in baseball http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=71o_ONrI_pk But is just a normal day in the office for a cricketer.. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G0AlU_5mxIA So that's it- comments? > Thought I would ignite this old debate. Will not resort to purile name > calling or boorish trash talking.. will make the point in numbered [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > So that's it- comments? is a baseball harder than a cricket ball? >> Thought I would ignite this old debate. Will not resort to purile name >> calling or boorish trash talking.. will make the point in numbered [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> 4. No gloves on the fielders. A catch without a mit is considered a >> miracle in baseball this better shows just what happens nearly every game in Cricket http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ILmSAL7WTKA&feature=related >> http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=71o_ONrI_pk >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > is a baseball harder than a cricket ball? SignatureGod made me an atheist. Who are you to question his wisdom? > It's really soft ball (in Australia) because the balls are quite soft by > cricket ball standards. They have to be to have any hope of directional > control hitting them with a round object. Yeah - Baseball really is a girl's game. Compare it to cricket - they all get to use a glove to catch the ball, in cricket only the wicket keeper gets a glove. In baseball if the ball hits their body they get a free run, in cricket they could get out. In baseball the fielders only have to stay on the field until they get 3 out then they get a rest - in cricket they have to get 10 out, and could be out there for a couple of days. In baseball the batter only has to make 1 run then gets a rest - in cricket ideally they will make over a 100 runs. But.. the biggest proof of all that baseball is a girl's game - one of the most famous baseball players ever was some babe called Ruth. Alienjones wrote,on my timestamp of 24/04/2008 8:40 PM: > As much as I deplore the cross posting this bloke does and his idiotic > mindset, the pictures are on-topic for aus.photo. Err........ Bret didn't cross-post, Dougie boy. He did the right thing and has been doing so for a while now. Finally! Nothing wrong with that. As for the moronic US idiots giving themselves the trouble of replying both here and in r.p.e.35mm, that just proves how stupid they really are! > As much as I deplore the cross posting this bloke does and his idiotic > mindset, the pictures are on-topic for aus.photo. This wasn't cross-posted, you idiot. Your post about the Nikma, however, was. |> As much as I deplore the cross posting this bloke does and his idiotic |> mindset, the pictures are on-topic for aus.photo. | | This wasn't cross-posted, you idiot. | Your post about the Nikma, however, was. Actually... Cross posting an Australian picture with information related to 35mm equipment ...to an Australian Photographic group and an International, recreational photo equipment group is entirely on-topic and totally appropriate for both groups. On the other hand... An american who doesn't seem to learn by his past efforts, posting personal insults about an Australian to an Australian group is getting real close to the "3 strikes and you are out" rule, Bell south have on you right now... STTTRIIIKE TWO! And just in case you are wondering... I'm the one behind it. I'm the one who had all your illegal galleries removed and I'm the one who you really need to avoid like the plague unless you care to find out how serious I am. - -- from Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. > Actually... Cross posting an Australian picture with information related > to 35mm equipment ...to an Australian Photographic group and an > International, recreational photo equipment group is entirely on-topic > and totally appropriate for both groups. The point was that you shouldn't bitch about cross-posting when you are the one doing it. Oh that's right, its ok for you to do anything you want as long as nobody else does it. > On the other hand... > An american who doesn't seem to learn by his past efforts, posting > personal insults about an Australian to an Australian group is getting > real close to the "3 strikes and you are out" rule, Bell south have on > you right now... STTTRIIIKE TWO! I use more than one ISP to post from, dumbass. Are you really that thick to think that anything you do could keep me from posting? If BellSouth goes out I'll just torment you twice as fast via ComCast high-speed internet. > And just in case you are wondering... I'm the one behind it. I'm the one > who had all your illegal galleries removed and I'm the one who you > really need to avoid like the plague unless you care to find out how > serious I am. Big whoop. You got some obscure galleries on my AOL account pulled. Big whoop. How long did that take ya? Probably a lot longer than the 5 minutes it took me to get another free AOL account, I'll bet. LOL! You did know that AOL is free, right? And that anybody can sign up for a free AOL account(s)? D-Mac, you really should consider the consequences of threatening me. It always seems to turn out poorly for you. | Big whoop. You got some obscure galleries on my AOL account pulled. | Big whoop. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | D-Mac, you really should consider the consequences of threatening me. | It always seems to turn out poorly for you. Oh yeah and let's not forget those Pbase accounts you posted your pornography into and the flickr sh.t you came up with. You really are an idiot if you think you are fooling anyone with your masquerades. We know full well you post from several ISPs and in many names too. "Helen" is the joke of Usenet. Why don't you just stay out of an Australian specific group and keep your pollution and lunacy on your own PC? The thing that is so bizzare about you, is that you have so little to do ~ that you can have all these identities and different ISP accounts and post with so many masqueraded identities, all telling you how good you are ...and still have nothing but a bunch happy snaps any 15 year old could take, to show for it. - -- from Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. Alienjones wrote,on my timestamp of 25/04/2008 10:13 AM: > The thing that is so bizzare about you, is that you have so little to do > ~ that you can have all these identities and different ISP accounts and > post with so many masqueraded identities, all telling you how good you > are ...and still have nothing but a bunch happy snaps any 15 year old > could take, to show for it. Dougie, the guy is unemployed and unemployable, and has been for a long time. He lives off the income he gets from his porn and pedophile sites, which he shares with his other friends from cox, comcast, claranet and a few other choice places. > Dougie, the guy is unemployed and unemployable, > and has been for a long time. He lives off the > income he gets from his porn and pedophile sites, > which he shares with his other friends from cox, > comcast, claranet and a few other choice places. I wish! Any other bullshit lies you wish to share today, shitstick? Maybe the one about your virgin daughter? "Alienjones", ryadia, technoaussie, auspics, big guy, ormiston, sebastian po, doug, douglas, douglas macdonald, stool pigeon, duncan donald, an interested bystander, one million pics, one million pictures, alan jones, alienjones himself, alvie, the yowie, bigpix, pix on canvas, the administrator, pixby, henretta, joe bailey, graham hunt, healthypcs, random user 12987, MoioM, go go dancer, maddy, huey fong, wilder and wilder, tekoaussie, justintyme, snaps, kakadu, HPC, deciple (sic) of EOS, child of EOS, call me any name, keep_it_simple, notsimple, not_just_Simple, tropical treat, d-mac, wraped in canvas, Julian Abbot, Cryptopix, Aussie Aussie Aussie, Parallel Dreaming, > You really are an idiot if you think you are fooling anyone with your > masquerades. > > We know full well you post from several ISPs and in many names too. > "Helen" is the joke of Usenet. whoops! -- Jeff R. (one-and-only-alias) | "Alienjones", | ryadia, [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] | Jeff R. | (one-and-only-alias) You forgot to mention Jeff taht you could only find these because I only ever used One ISP and for the most part, had a fixed IP address. If I had dialed up a nearby ISP in another state, as the clown prince does, you'd never have found them. Who's he "big guy" incidentally? I don't mind you posting this list but I get really pissed off when you try to inflate it with forged names. If you are going to keep the database, you'd better look in the mirror and give yourself permission or the "one-and-only-alias" might turn into the real you. - -- from Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > | auspics, > | big guy, > You forgot to mention Jeff taht you could only find these because I only > ever used One ISP and for the most part, had a fixed IP address. If I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > from Douglas, Douglas, Douglas, Douglas.... I really cannot understand you. I mockingly post a list of 53-odd aliases you have used recently (not my list - I forget who compiled it, but thanks...) and you have a go at me because *one* of them might not be dinkum? Are you serious? Aren't you just a *little* embarrassed to be shown to be as deceptive as you are? How about "Julian"? Do you still maintain that he exists? Will you concede that you posted a wealth of lies about "him"? (etc etc for all the other aliases) Sockpuppeting isn't something you should be proud of, Doug. It doesn't require great skill or courage to do it. You just have to *lie*. What virtues do any of us have to be proud of here on Usenet, if our honesty is to be called into question? If you haven't got your integrity - you've got nothing. Oh, and don't bother with the "other guys do it, so I'm just fighting fire with fire" nonsense. Or the "I was just mucking around" excuse. That's kiddies' stuff, and most of grow out of those excuses some time around puberty. Honestly, Doug, assuming you're *not* just a troll trying to get a rise out of us, and assuming that you have a story to tell and experiences to impart, how do you think your behaviour is helping? I will re-issue my long-standing challenge to you, Doug. Prove me wrong, and show me up to be the ignoramus I must be. Simply produce and post your stepped-out panorama as you proclaimed you could here: http://www.mendosus.com/photography/doug.html And, if can't (or won't) then apologise to the folks you insulted in the process. You *can* regain your credibility, you know. Either do it, or admit you can't. -- Jeff R. (*still* using the same 'nym) >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > What virtues do any of us have to be proud of here on Usenet, if our > honesty is to be called into question? The amazing thing about all of this Jeff, is you are being manipulated by a swine far smarter than you are and don't know it. The prick started out calling himself Charles Stevens and lately calls himself Mark Thomas. Neither name were ever on any electoral roll or in the phone book in the places he claimed to have lived. His current persona is not on the roll in Queensland and there is no record of him in the DMV database yet he claims to live not far from Cleveland (probably Logan city from the slip us he regularly makes). He claims to work here and drive around in a car here. Sound odd to you? Julian on the other hand is a real living person. A true gentleman from Samoa. He was one of my former house guests when I owned a boarding house in Ormiston (Queensland). I bought Ryadia (my boat) when I sold it a few years ago. So I guess using that name had some relationship to me - for those who bothered to get to know me. I also owned amongst other business assets; Technology Australia Pty Ltd (Technoaussie) and Healthy PCs and the Linux Shop (to name a few) so I guess those names might have also had some significance if I posted from the factory, shop or office - the places this prick couldn't find until I posted a photo of one after I moved out! Smarter that you? Yep! He sure is. Many of the other names in your list were used by guests I had from time to time (some of whom were exchange students). When I think about it, he could have been one of bastards who moved out with 3 weeks board owing, taking the towels and bed linen with him to set up a flat and I would still never know who he really is. What that swine didn't tell you is many of the names he came up with lasted only one posting. But the he was right in one thing, they all came from the one IP address- My ROUTER! And if you can't understand why I think it's huge joke - around here it is bigger than huge- then the joke is on you mate... Again. As for proving anything to you? Why? Just because you can't do it is not in itself reason enough for anyone to believe I can't either. If you have a problem getting your head around the fact someone is smarter than you... Go take a shower. Otherwise join the queue and wait. Aren't you the one who gave me a hard time about my regional calendars? You sure are a slow learner who gets in with the wrong crowd. Take a shower mate. Chill out and come back for some more fun and games. Usenet is loaded with 'em! Signaturefrom Douglas, If my PGP key is missing, the post is a forgery. Ignore it. > The amazing thing about all of this Jeff, is you are being manipulated by > a swine far smarter than you are and don't know it. The prick started out > calling himself Charles Stevens and lately calls himself Mark Thomas. > Neither name were ever on any electoral roll or in the phone book in the > places he claimed to have lived. You miss my point entirely. I couldn't give a sideways about someone else here, Doug. I am challenging *you* to make good *your* claims. Just because someone else happens to agree with me does not mean I am being manipulated by him. (Except to the extent that I am taking the bait of your trolling, of course - but that is voluntary.) > What that swine didn't tell you is many of the names he came up with > lasted only one posting. But the he was right in one thing, they all came > from the one IP address- My ROUTER! Do you deny employing sockpuppets - for the purpose of deception? IOW, lying. Even allowing for "exchange students" using your account/router/PC for their own(?) purposes? > And if you can't understand why I think it's huge joke - around here it is > bigger than huge- then the joke is on you mate... Again. No - the joke is not on me. I don't use sockpuppets, and I have no childish behaviour to defend. > As for proving anything to you? Why? Just because you can't do it is not > in itself reason enough for anyone to believe I can't either. If you have > a problem getting your head around the fact someone is smarter than you... > Go take a shower. Otherwise join the queue and wait. Doug - maybe you need a shower yourself. Would you like me to outline the lies, insults and errors of fact present on your *one* webpage? Just one page? (Never mind all the others.) I'm not interested in some silly contest proving who is smarter than who. I'm just concerned, for your sake, that you should display a little honesty, admit you were wrong and (ideally) apologise for the intemperate comments you made. My request to you to prove that you *can* produce a walking pano from the examples you provided, is, of course, just a tease. Obviously you cannot, as has been demonstrated completely and thoroughly on these pages already. Walking panos are (of course!) possible, but not with the type of images you posted. > Aren't you the one who gave me a hard time about my regional calendars? No Doug. That wasn't me. It must have been another one of your admirers. I had a go at you for having a go at macro photography of insects (and the like). Remember? > You sure are a slow learner who gets in with the wrong crowd. I *am* a slow learner. That's the best kind. We absorb what we learn and retain it. Its kind'a like dieting. Crash diets don't work in the long term, and neither does "crash" learning. I'm not "in" with any crowd online. If you think I'm joining a group just to pick on you, I suggest you go and look up "paranoia". > Take a shower mate. Chill out and come back for some more fun and games. > Usenet is loaded with 'em! Profound. Its just a shame there is so much dishonesty on Usenet. You know the type I mean: * sockpuppetry * bragging about imaginary exploits * bragging about imaginary abilities * gratuitous insults to those who challenge you. That sort of thing. -- Jeff R. (still waiting to be shown up) > Julian on the other hand is a real living person. A true gentleman from > Samoa. He was one of my former house guests when I owned a boarding > house in Ormiston (Queensland). I bought Ryadia (my boat) when I sold it > a few years ago. So I guess using that name had some relationship to me > - for those who bothered to get to know me. Wow, this just keeps getting better and better (or thicker). So now you ran a boarding house? I wonder why you've never mentioned this in the past? You've certainly told us everything else (and more) about yourself. Anyway, it is good to see you now admit that you posted as Julian (not to mention the 50+ other names you now admit to using). That's a good first step. So tell us more about the real Julian, D-Mac. Were you homosexually attracted to him? Did Margie approve of this? Did Julian pay the rent with his favors or did he just like old fags? Or did you simply dream up this image of a young Samoan named Julian as some sort of sick sexual fantasy? Don't fib or I'll know, D-Mac. OMG BRET VERY FUNNY I HAVE BEEN LOL'ing FOR HALF AN HOUR >> Julian on the other hand is a real living person. A true gentleman from >> Samoa. He was one of my former house guests when I owned a boarding [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > dream up this image of a young Samoan named Julian as some sort of > sick sexual fantasy? Don't fib or I'll know, D-Mac. > from Douglas, > If my PGP key is missing, the > post is a forgery. Ignore it Your PGP key was missing from that last post. Faker! Very long post... If you are not into masochism, or the ongoing Douglas MacDonald fantasy, please do NOT read on. Hi, Douglas. Yes, I'm still around, and every now and then I will pop by to point out your filthy LIES. Note that YOU brought up my name... > The amazing thing about all of this Jeff, is you are being manipulated > by a swine far smarter than you are and don't know it. The prick > started out calling himself Charles Stevens and lately calls himself > Mark Thomas That's because it is my name. (O: Coming from someone who has used over a hundred identities, many in order to to cheat and lie about his businesses, it's quite amusing really. EXAMPLE (non-Google link for those migrating from the Google chaos, like me!): http://www.photokb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/photo-digital-slr/827/Enlarging-Digital-images Douglas was, of course, "Graham Hunt" - posting compliments about his own franchise, and how you should get in quick and invest... The funny part is that the 'franchises' never seemed to develop into anything, and in fact ALL his once famous businesses (grin) cannot be found in any phone book or web directory. Funny about that. Why doesn't he post a link or two to prove me wrong? What happened to all the goodwill those names must have developed?? (O: Anyway, I've used just two names in my entire time on the Internet, one being a childhood nickname, and I've never hidden my identity - I even announced when I was forced to change from "Charles" because go.com dropped their email service. Doug, however... HUNDREDS of names, many used deceitfully. Strangely, he doesn't spot the irony. > Neither name were ever on any electoral roll or in the phone > book in the places he claimed to have lived. Do you realise how stupid you sound, Doug? Do you have any idea just how many Mark Thomas's there are likely to be, in even a small town? It's a *common name* Doug, which means you are wasting your time and just making yourself look like a twerp. There were 3 in Port Lincoln when I left, and there are still at least two. Moron. > His current persona is not on the roll in Queensland And you just repeat the stupidity. Where am I living, Doug? Shall I tell you how many MT's there are in my electoral district? And why do you want my address? You can send mail to me at my web-domain address. I've told you many times that YOUR SOLICITOR can have my current physical address. Just name him/her and let the fun begin. You have posted an awful lot of stuff to be very afraid of, Doug. I have no such qualms. > and there is no record of him in the DMV database yet he claims to > live not far from Cleveland (probably Logan city from the slip us he > regularly makes). You just can't help lying, can you? Have you got a mate in the DMV who is *illegally* doing these searches for you? Name him/her, and they will be in deep sh.t. Or if it is an 'official' matter, give me the details of who is making the enquiry, and I will happily liaise directly with them. I'm particularly keen to show them a few select postings of yours, eg the threats you have made and the ridiculous LIES about me stealing from your market stall. Shall I post the links again? There's some *very* interesting stuff you wrote in that one, I can assure you and your solicitor... FWIW I do indeed have a Qld drivers license, as your solicitor could verify if you simply supply their name.. > Julian on the other hand is a real living person. A true gentleman > from Samoa. He was one of my former house guests when I owned a > boarding house in Ormiston (Queensland). I bought Ryadia (my boat) > when I sold it a few years ago. So I guess using that name had some > relationship to me > - for those who bothered to get to know me. So there is the admission, it was Douglas posting as 'Julian'. Even if a Julian existed, Douglas just admitted HE posted using 'Julian's' name. AND whilst doing so, Douglas falsely and criminally misrepresented himself as a Uni of Qld employee. More lies admitted, and in fact grounds for legal action. And when you re-read the numerous posts he made as "julian", you have to wonder about what sort of mind invents such rubbish, and uses that type of subterfuge to pretend he has supporters. Remember the glowing praise 'Julian' gave about his "master"? How he backed up everything Doug said? How he came up with excuses for the images that appeared on 'Julian's web page being the same ones spotted earlier on Doug's? The strenuous denials that he was Doug, even though everyone spotted it within seconds? What sort of mind could do that? Some sort of weird Munchausen's syndrome? > I also owned amongst other business assets; Technology Australia Pty > Ltd (Technoaussie) and Healthy PCs and the Linux Shop (to name a few) > so I guess those names might have also had some significance if I > posted from the factory, shop or office - the places this prick > couldn't find No one could. Yes, those names existed. Once. But as for shopfronts or real active businesses/franchises? What do *you* think, dear reader? (O: I invite anyone who thinks Douglas genuinely owned a photo printing business and is an expert at his craft, to read the posting here: http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.photo/msg/3112df9d7655ae6e and then read Russ and Doug Jewell's demolitions of it here: http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.photo/msg/3d7c55aa4d6a040d http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.photo/msg/773df51e58f5d2fc The latter post by Doug Jewell is a very useful reference to many things photo-printing related.. But I digress... > until I posted a photo of one after I moved out! Smarter that you? "Smarter that you"? That's Doug, the "interlectual"... So where are any of these mighty businesses NOW? This goes to the heart of your credibility. You frequently tell us how you own/ed enlarging franchises (although you sold the technology to Samsung, remember?), printing franchises and others. Many folk have wanted to try them out to test your claims (although I suspect they were just humouring you). But you always went VERY quiet when it came to giving a location for just one such 'business'. If you make grandiose (and generally false) claims here, why do you then make it impossible to test those claims? (That, by the way, is a really stupid question - we KNOW why he won't allow the claims to be tested. Same reason his pages, like the one reposted by Jeff, disappear as soon as the lies and fraudulent claims are exposed.) And why can't anyone here, several of whom live S of Brisbane, find any of your businesses? > Many of the other names in your list were used by guests I had from > time to time (some of whom were exchange students). When I think about > it, he could have been one of bastards who moved out with 3 weeks > board owing, taking the towels and bed linen with him to set up a flat > and I would still never know who he really is. Oh yes... highly believable. It's amazing how these things only happen to you, Doug. The sad part is that Doug probably thinks people read this crap and believe it. > What that swine didn't tell you is many of the names he came up with > lasted only one posting. What has that got to with anything? I said, correctly, that they were all YOU. You now admit they were. Game over. > But the he was right in one thing, they all > came from the one IP address- My ROUTER! Yes. Indeed. Therefore, YOUR responsibility, no matter 'who' posted them. And we all know it is you - why you keep up this stupid pretence is just incomprehensible. All part of the big 'joke' that is you, I guess. > And if you can't understand why I think it's huge joke - around here > it is bigger than huge- then the joke is on you mate... Again. Anyone laughing, other than Rita? Actually, the 'joke' is stuff like that 'stepped out panorama' thread, and your pulled page. You pretend to have skills, and yet you post absolute CLAPTRAP like that, run like the wind when you are shown to be completely incorrect, and you haven't even got the guts to apologise to those you falsely defame. > As for proving anything to you? Why? To show you are not a fraud and liar. You choose to remain both of those. Fine by me, well-deserved reputation you now have. > Just because you can't do it is not > in itself reason enough for anyone to believe I can't either. If you > have a problem getting your head around the fact someone is smarter > than you... Go take a shower. Otherwise join the queue and wait... ... forever, by the looks. (O; > Aren't you the one who gave me a hard time about my regional > calendars? No, he isn't. Your dementia is showing again. But quite a few other folk did - me included. Still haven't seen one of them calendars in the flesh... Oh, but I don't live around here, right? (O: > You sure are a slow learner who gets in with the wrong crowd. Take a > shower mate. Chill out and come back for some more fun and games. > Usenet is loaded with 'em! Any excuse will do to avoid the actual topic. Just post your 'stepped out panorama' result, Doug. And apologise to AC. Waiting. Note - watch the selective editing and avoidance that Doug will use if he replies! > Very long post... big snip............ Excellent Mark. I await the irrelevance from Douglas. r >> Very long post... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > r Hmm.. you read that? (O: Thanks, Rob. It's ugly but oddly fascinating - sorta like watching a huge, slow motion train crash... I apologise for stretching it out further, but sometimes I get very angry when he posts lies against my name, again. >>> Very long post... >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I apologise for stretching it out further, but sometimes I get very angry > when he posts lies against my name, again. excellent post yet again Mark, but you have to give credit to Doug, this current nym of his has lasted for eons if you count it in Douggie years. Signature"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg >>> Very long post... >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I apologise for stretching it out further, but sometimes I get very > angry when he posts lies against my name, again. Lies like when you posted your crap from a SA Government computer. Lies like when you said I couldn't enlarge digital images. Lies like when you eventually conceded I could but not to your high (ROTFL) standards. Lies like when you posted defamation about me not having any licenses from the EPA to photograph in National Parks ("Liar Doug, the EPA doesn't have anything to do with national parks") Ref: http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/ And when I posted a scan of my license? "Oh anyone can get one of those!" More lies like when you posted that I was a liar, I didn't have any "shopfronts". What happened when I posted a photo of one? You found another of my business's to harass from the list on the window. Nice swine you are. And what happened when world renown photographer, Gordon Moat refereed a challenge from another idiot with your mentality - Alan Browne from Canada about my enlargement algorithm? More lies you yelled. You , a fuchin idiot from nowhere, contradicting a specialist's findings. And then there was the incident when you sneaked around like the swine you are, waiting for my missus to go for a pee before you rushed in and snapped off some photos of my canvas enlargements. What a total loser you are Stevens. Yeah That is your real name, isn't it? You just got expelled from my fan club. LIAR, STALKER and all round nasty bastard. >>>> Very long post... >>> [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > You just got expelled from my fan club. LIAR, STALKER and all round nasty > bastard. so who is the REAL stalker here Douggie, is it the guy who looks someone up on the electoral role, or maybe the guy who tries to look someone up on the DMV Licence database, (and for someone with your self confesses skills you seem to have failed miserably) could it be the guy that always wants to know the names of his detractors so he can then fashion a poorly designed web site to defame them with lies and fabrications of his own. you keep harping on about how no one uses their real identity on Usenet, maybe its because there are criminal stalkers like YOU out there who will then try and turn that information around and use it to attack and defame them. This also from someone who has used more aliases to try and prop up his own lies and shortcomings and in some cases to commit acts of fraud by talking up a franchise you were trying to sell. I'm not going to defend any of the accusations you have made against Mark in this post as ALL of them have been ably defended in other posts, you obviously don't get it Doug, every accusation you make on Mark has already been shown to be yet another of your lies yet you still bring them up, why is that, is it because you think if you say it enough times it will somehow become true, or is it because you are retarded and think no one remember last week, or the week before.......... You have a serious mental problem Doug, I would personally like to see you get professional help for it before someone close to you has you committed against your will. Signature"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." Don Hirschberg On Apr 30, 8:35 pm, "A. C." <Thechaplaini...@godlesscentral.com> wrote: > I'm not going to defend any of the accusations you have made against Mark in > this post as ALL of them have been ably defended in other posts, you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > become true, or is it because you are retarded and think no one remember > last week, or the week before.......... So I think what you're saying is .... Douggie DIDN'T invent Usenet? Another long post. This may be a useful thread for Doug's legal team (grin) in future, for it will have links to most of the worst pieces of bullshit Doug has ever posted - and I'll just refer to it.. Keep it up, Doug. (I KNEW he would bite on the snipped version, by the way. That way he didn't have to answer anything. Sooo predictable.) > Lies like when you posted your crap from a SA Government computer. Ummmm, how is that a 'lie'? What a bloody moron. Every TAFESA library computer is a SA Gov't computer, and how does the posting origin turn a post into a lie?... The only time posting origin is important is when some dufus (like Douglas) pretends he is someone else, not realising he has left his arse hanging out for all to see, in the headers. As I don't sockpuppet, my posting origins are irrelevant, but Doug is free to take it up with.. er.. someone who cares... (O: How IS Graham Hunt and his fraudulent claims, I wonder? Is he ever going to defend his actions? And whatever happened to those TechnoAussie Digital Print Centres, after Doug sold the enlarging secrets to Samsung? (O: > Lies like when you said I couldn't enlarge digital images. I said, and will continue to say, he couldn't do it *as well as he claimed*, and he did not possess any magic algorythm. And I graciously pointed out where he *lied and cheated with his fake examples* (link below to just one example) and his bullshit claims of "REAL ADDED DETAIL".. By the way, that is an ACTUAL QUOTE. I'm happy to post the link to where he used those words. (If anyone else asks I will, but everyone here now knows he's a liar). Douglas, listen up. When you put something in "quotes", it needs to be something that was actually *said*. Do you understand? Do you need simpler one syllable words, perhaps? Because down below you do it all wrong. > Lies like when you eventually conceded I could but not to your high (ROTFL) > standards. That is what I *always* said. And of course he cheated in every demonstration he posted, with just one exception. Shall I post those examples too? All the threads and pages where he claimed enlargement... but actually showed REDUCTIONs. Here's one - note the way Doug's claims were demolished here -... http://www.photokb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/photo-au/5503 /Enlarging-digital-images-examples > Lies like when you posted defamation about me not having any licenses from > the EPA to photograph in National Parks ("Liar Doug, the EPA doesn't have > anything to do with national parks") Now, here we go, Doug. Got your tiny brain in gear?? Let's have a little lesson on ""'s. Yes, "Quotes". Those little things you put around words to show that they were ACTUALLY SAID. Now, *you* put quotes around this - "Liar Doug, the EPA doesn't have anything to do with national parks". Which suggests to anyone with half a brain or more, that I actually said it. But I *didn't*. Easily proven - just search for those words. So YOU are a miserable low-life LIAR, Douglas "St James" MacDonald. If you claim I *did* say those words, then simply post the link. Go on. Anytime. What I DID point out, CORRECTLY, was: - he misnamed the department from which the permit was issued - he claimed having a permit to photograph was a badge of honour (and it isn't, just a meaningless money raiser) - he ALSO falsely claimed to have permits from ATSIC to shoot in indigenous communities. ATSIC not only DIDN'T issue such permits, it had been disbanded for some time... The whole concept of an organisation giving blanket permission to shoot indigenous people and scenes across Oz is just laughable, as anyone who understands indigenous culture here knows only too well. (That doesn't include Doug, clearly.) Here's the link if anyone gives a toss - where all Doug's lies (and senile memories) are exposed: http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-148691.html The sad tale is spread over several pages - I suggest you don't bother.. unless you are, of course, Doug's solicitor (grin). > And when I posted a scan of my license? "Oh anyone can get one of those!" True, they can. And indeed *have to* if shooting commercially in a national park. But Doug portrayed it as that badge of honour! w.nker... But now why won't he post a scan of that ATSIC permit... (O: > More lies like when you posted that I was a liar, I didn't have any > "shopfronts". Good quoting, BRAVO!! Yes, I have indeed said "shopfronts". Shame, shame, shame. (O: I simply asked - where are they? As did a few others, wanting to see if the hype was up to his false claims... But he posted one shot of a shopfront (that was photoshopped, and I can prove it) and then admitted he was no longer there. Pointless, stupid exercise from a pointless, stupid twerp. NOT ONCE has Douglas had the guts to post a single address of ANY of his claimed franchises/businesses. Anyone care to guess why? Yep, you got it. (O: Don't get me wrong - he does genuinely seem to run a lame-a.s web-based business and manages to sell wedding packages on Ebay. Maybe. But does he do it well? Can he do what he has claimed? Does he own printing franchises? He claimed to own photo-printing franchises, but then posted a hilarious and very embarrassing 'treatise' that superbly demonstrated he didn't have a frigging clue about the realities of printing systems: http://phorums.com.au/archive/index.php/t-267293.html Note how Russ, Doug Jewell and others ripped Mr MacDonald's 'knowledge' into absolute shreds.. Black in the green channel? Printers using video feeds? Fuji Frontier working just like a laser printer? Never seen such bullshit in my life. > What happened when I posted a photo of one? You found another of my > business's to harass from the list on the window. Nice swine you are. Please post full details of this new fantasy. You are a LIAR again. Who, and how exactly were they allegedly harassed? How did you allegedly identify me? Put up or shut up, bullshit artist. > And what happened when world renown photographer, Gordon Moat refereed a > challenge from another idiot with your mentality - Alan Browne from Canada > about my enlargement algorithm? More lies you yelled. You , a fuchin idiot > from nowhere, contradicting a specialist's findings. Well brought up, Doug. Here's the link where Gordon Moat himself gently corrects Doug's misquoting, and makes it very clear about what he actually said: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.equipment.35mm /browse_frm/thread/f0bc2af22e84217b/ Also ask Alan Browne what he now thinks of Doug... Also Avery, Colin D., Gisle Hannemyr.. and *many* others - all of whom have been misquoted (aka more LIES) by Douglas MacDonald. > And then there was the incident when you sneaked around like the swine you > are, waiting for my missus to go for a pee before you rushed in and snapped > off some photos of my canvas enlargements. Another demonstrably FALSE claim. Douglas claims he has this imaginary event on security camera. Yet, when asked to describe me, he goes VERY quiet again. Why? Because, sadly for Doug, there is something very noticeable about me (even from a distance), and unfortunately Doug doesn't know what that is. Which leaves him stuffed.. (- which is what happens to *all* filthy liars...) So his LIE is exposed again, by his silence. He has no such footage, and I never did anything like he claims, of course. Think about it - even if such a ridiculous event had happened - how on earth would he know it was me? What sort of twisted mind does this maniac have, to make up this absolute bullshit? Interestingly, the story has changed twice - I allegedly stole stuff in one version. But Douglas keeps forgetting his lies. > What a total loser you are Stevens. Yeah That is your real name, isn't it? No. Why do you think it is? Why don't you just send some mail to my address (it's real), or give your solicitor's name? I'm ready. > You just got expelled from my fan club. LIAR, STALKER and all round nasty > bastard. Yes, Douglas, whatever you say. Good to see you setting the example - as shown in the above links. Enjoy your current reputation, and don't be afraid to post that "stepped out panorama" whenever ready... I'll be starting a new post shortly, to discuss the concept (ie linear vs 'normal' panoramas) in some detail. I'd get in first, if I was you... Could be very embarrassing... Have a great weekend, Doggie. See if you can churn out some more masterpieces like you have just posted, so you can bask in all that acclaim... (O: (O: (O: ---- Anyway, just so's there some image content here, and as a reward (or punishment!) for anyone crazy enough to read this far, here's some irrelevant picha's (already posted before, sorry..): http://www.marktphoto.com/examples/pano5copy_smallcrop.jpg http://www.marktphoto.com/examples/currumbin1.jpg http://www.marktphoto.com/examples/cazneauxtree.jpg http://www.marktphoto.com/examples/brisbane_morn_small.jpg http://www.marktphoto.com/examples/leaper.jpg On May 1, 8:47 am, Mark Thomas <markt@_don't_spam_marktphoto.com> wrote: > Another demonstrably FALSE claim. Douglas claims he has this imaginary > event on security camera. Yet, when asked to describe me, he goes VERY > quiet again. Why? Because, sadly for Doug, there is something very > noticeable about me (even from a distance), and unfortunately Doug > doesn't know what that is. Which leaves him stuffed.. I'm guessing it is either your incredibly long penis or your wheelchair. Or is the wheelchair for your incredibly long penis? > ... > | technoaussie, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Who's he "big guy" incidentally? I don't mind you posting this list but > I get really pissed off when you try to inflate it with forged names. Doug, we all know it must be VERY hard to keep up with all your own names, but here is a link to a post by you, as "Big Guy"..: http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.ads.forsale.computers.new/msg/ab0d590a8529d4e3 In this thread you refer to your Healthy PC's business, so I guess we would have to call that a MATCH. As a computer whiz, you should know how easy it is to look these things up. You are still batting zero - that was another LIE. Now APOLOGISE to Jeff R., like the man that you are. > Oh yeah and let's not forget those Pbase accounts you posted your > pornography into and the flickr sh.t you came up with. You give me too much credit. I've never had a flickr account. That one must belong to one of your many other tormenters. > You really are an idiot if you think you are fooling anyone with your > masquerades. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > are ...and still have nothing but a bunch happy snaps any 15 year old > could take, to show for it. That's too funny considering the source. I have different ways to connect, but only one identity. I don't need more than that to expose you for the fraud and liar that you are. And yet you have a long list of names that you use, some of which Jeff posted on this thread. And no, I'm not Jeff. And only an idiot would think that I was Helen. OK, two idiots. Alienjones wrote,on my timestamp of 25/04/2008 7:26 AM: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > International, recreational photo equipment group is entirely on-topic > and totally appropriate for both groups. True. Particularly if the subject line is not shouted. > On the other hand... > An american who doesn't seem to learn by his past efforts, posting > personal insults about an Australian to an Australian group is getting > real close to the "3 strikes and you are out" rule, Bell south have on > you right now... STTTRIIIKE TWO! And google as well. They'll eventually wake up once it's rubbed on their faces often enough. But you'll also have to contend with qwest.net, claranet and cox: it's where his troll friends in r.s.g hide and they'll gladly open accounts for him. And if all else fails his troll buddy Jim Kramer from pbase will come to the rescue, rest assured. You're dealing with a bunch of rednecks from the backward southern states of the usa, don't forget: they are all blood-related over there. Just like in Tasmania. > And just in case you are wondering... I'm the one behind it. I'm the one > who had all your illegal galleries removed and I'm the one who you > really need to avo |
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