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Troy Piggins - 26 Jan 2008 23:47 GMT

http://piggo.com/~troy/photos.php?album=2008_01_26&img=photos/2008_01_26/img_5828.jpg

http://piggo.com/~troy/photos.php?album=2008_01_26&img=photos/2008_01_26/img_5831.jpg

http://piggo.com/~troy/photos.php?album=2008_01_26&img=photos/2008_01_26/img_5832.jpg

This is not a crop. I was that close.
http://piggo.com/~troy/photos.php?album=2008_01_26&img=photos/2008_01_26/img_5833.jpg

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Rob. - 27 Jan 2008 01:32 GMT

> :)
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> This is not a crop. I was that close.
> http://piggo.com/~troy/photos.php?album=2008_01_26&img=photos/2008_01_26/img_5833.jpg

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Troy its of no use banging off shots when there is no composition or
meaning to the image.

You have a big highlight, which for a start detracts from the point of
interest.

r

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Troy Piggins - 27 Jan 2008 02:28 GMT

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>> :)
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> You have a big highlight, which for a start detracts from the point of
> interest.

Thanks for your critique Rob.

Since you haven't clarified what you mean about "no composition"
I'll assume you would have liked to see the DF facing me? I
would have preferred that. Don't like the view from behind. In
this instance it was in a garden and it was facing bushes. No
matter what angle I tried it had it's back to me. Best I could
do was the second last image (5832). I quite liked that shot. I
tried forcing the DF to move to see if it landed in a better
angle for me. It didn't.

As for the highlight, I've diffused the flash as best I can and
usually get good, soft lit results. For some reason this guy's
face was reflecting a lot. DF eyes are like bloody mirror-balls.
Not sure how you're supposed to get /no/ highlights.

Thanks again for the critique.

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Marutchi - 27 Jan 2008 03:02 GMT

> Thanks for your critique Rob.
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> face was reflecting a lot. DF eyes are like bloody mirror-balls.
> Not sure how you're supposed to get /no/ highlights.

I sometimes wonder about this sort of comment too. Just being a snapper, how
do you compose a wildlife shot? It's not as if the subject will take
directions and most of the time one has to take the photo in an instant with
no time to move to a better position to get a composition with in the
"rules".
As for highlights, some times it's the person with the best Photoshop
skills, who manages to make a reasonable shot a great one, unfortunately I'm
not one of those.

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Troy Piggins - 27 Jan 2008 03:44 GMT

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>> Thanks for your critique Rob.
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> skills, who manages to make a reasonable shot a great one, unfortunately I'm
> not one of those.

Exactly. Particularly with macros of insects. You are trying to
shoot a moving bug walking on the branch or leaf of a tree that
is blowing in the wind. Depth of field is very shallow because
of the focusing distance, you are quite often lucky to get the
thing in focus let alone composition. And you only have seconds
to set the shot before the bug flies/walks off.

That's why I tend to reel off a lot of shots - firstly when I
notice the bug, then I gradually get closer and closer taking
shots as I go because you never know when you'll get /too/ close
and the thing will fly off.

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Rob. - 27 Jan 2008 05:25 GMT

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> Thanks again for the critique.

Troy

Image 5833 - This image is ok to show the eyes and doesn't need much
else. The bend of the grass which the DF is sitting on is the highlight,
and when you have this in front its distracting. Photoshop and kill the
burnt out bit.

as for 5832 every thing has been clipped, wings, tail not a very
attractive shot - not particularly sharp, messy brown thing in front etc

5831 - as above your better off with a crop and get rid of that out of
focus stuff - what's around does nothing for the image.

5828 - its all there - perhaps you could have moved over the top and
shown more of the wings, this would also give you a flatter plane of focus.

They all have that grass highlight.

What has been presented seems to me as who can get in close - nothing
else matters - as I said just banging off shots hoping to come up with
the goods.

You have posted your lighting setup which seem quite adequate for this
type of stuff.

Dragonfly - early mornings when its cold and they will stop still and
are easily photographed.

r

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Troy Piggins - 28 Jan 2008 11:50 GMT

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>> tried forcing the DF to move to see if it landed in a better
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> as for 5832 every thing has been clipped, wings, tail not a very
> attractive shot - not particularly sharp, messy brown thing in front etc

Interestingly, in a macro forum I frequent, most of the followups
chose this one as their favourite. Go figure.

> 5831 - as above your better off with a crop and get rid of that out of
> focus stuff - what's around does nothing for the image.
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> They all have that grass highlight.

Thanks for going into more detail. That helps me much more so I
can watch out for next time.

> What has been presented seems to me as who can get in close - nothing
> else matters - as I said just banging off shots hoping to come up with
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> Dragonfly - early mornings when its cold and they will stop still and
> are easily photographed.

Yeah, thanks for that. Again, appreciate the feedback.

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Jeff R. - 27 Jan 2008 08:13 GMT

>> :)
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> You have a big highlight, which for a start detracts from the point of
> interest.

Yeah - AND:

You could've got him to smile. There's nothing more dull than a dour DF.
And what's with the red-eye? Couldn't you have set the red-eye reduction?
And he's making a rude gesture in the last two shots. Have you no decorum?

Sheesh.
Amateurs!

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(I mean "armatures".)

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Troy Piggins - 28 Jan 2008 11:48 GMT

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>>> :)
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> And what's with the red-eye? Couldn't you have set the red-eye reduction?
> And he's making a rude gesture in the last two shots. Have you no decorum?

Lol. Thanks for that. Still don't know what's going on with his
arms...

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