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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / Australian Photography / January 2008Wild dogs pose for the D300
The other day I went to a one horse village called Runa, close to my home in Portugal, to take some pictures of an abandoned RR station, when I saw these two wild dogs. I tried my best to have them come to me, but no way. They did seem to like the D300, because they took turns in posing for me! When I came home, I looked at the pictures and they all seemed out of focus! I finally found it: the dynamic focus area was set to 51 point 3D. Now I assumed it would not be active if you choose Single point AF with the AF area selector. But it doesn't seem to focus on the target. Look at the pictures. I focused on the dogs heads, but they are not sharp. It seems right after or before they are. Is this a flaw or overlooked issue? I talked to the importer and they were very eager to get my camera fixed. Like they knew about it? Maybe I just overlooked something, but the manual isn't very helpful either. Anybody know why? Another question is the AF Area selection. Why would you choose 9 or 21 points if you have 51? Does it save battery time? Does it have other advantages? Even if you have the AF selector on single or dynamic and in the menu you have 9 points, you can still choose any of the 51 points. Any answers? Sorry, I'm a little lost, like my two new RR dog friends ;-) http://atlantic-diesel.com/Dog1.jpg http://atlantic-diesel.com/Dog2.jpg http://atlantic-diesel.com/Dog3.jpg http://atlantic-diesel.com/Dog4.jpg Aren't they precious?  SignatureSosumi > The other day I went to a one horse village called Runa, close to my home in > Portugal, to take some pictures of an abandoned RR station, when I saw these [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Aren't they precious? All the shots you show are focused as I would expect the wide area dynamic focus to work. It has selected the target of most contrast - which is what it always does - and you probably have the custom option for avoiding refocusing on passing foreground objects enabled (can't remember what option this is, but it stops the focus resetting if you are tracking a subject and a fencepost gets in front etc). This makes the wide area focus prefer backgrounds - with it turned off, the WA focus will generally prefer the closest area of high contrast detail. Your dogs are too insignificant and dark compared to the strong hard edges of the railroad or the grass and weeds. You would have to use spot focus and lock to get these right. David SignatureIcon Publications Ltd, Maxwell Place, Maxwell Lane, Kelso TD5 7BB Company Registered in England No 2122711. Registered Office 12 Exchange St, Retford, Notts DN22 6BL VAT Reg No GB458101463 Trading as Icon Publications Ltd, Photoworld Club and Troubadour.uk.com www.iconpublications.com - www.troubadour.uk.com - www.f2photo.co.uk - www.photoclubalpha.com - www.minoltaclub.co.uk Tel +44 1573 226032 >> The other day I went to a one horse village called Runa, close to my home >> in Portugal, to take some pictures of an abandoned RR station, when I saw [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > David So let me get this straight: even if you have the AF area selector on Single Point AF (!), but the menu on 51 point 3D and you have the object in the middle point selected, it beeps, it still looks for another contrast place? SignatureSosumi > So let me get this straight: even if you have the AF area selector on Single > Point AF (!), but the menu on 51 point 3D and you have the object in the > middle point selected, it beeps, it still looks for another contrast place? No idea. When testing the D300 and D3, I used spot central focus not wide area for standard aim-lock subjects. I used dynamic wide area for moving targets without any manual interference. Both options seem logical and both worked fine. If I used the dynamic wide area for static subejcts, I nearly always ended up with the wrong thing in focus (typically, the foreground) so I quit doing that after my first dozen or so reviewed shots. It was easy enough to tell from the rear screen review whether things were going as I wanted. David SignatureIcon Publications Ltd, Maxwell Place, Maxwell Lane, Kelso TD5 7BB Company Registered in England No 2122711. Registered Office 12 Exchange St, Retford, Notts DN22 6BL VAT Reg No GB458101463 Trading as Icon Publications Ltd, Photoworld Club and Troubadour.uk.com www.iconpublications.com - www.troubadour.uk.com - www.f2photo.co.uk - www.photoclubalpha.com - www.minoltaclub.co.uk Tel +44 1573 226032 >The other day I went to a one horse village called Runa, close to my home in >Portugal, to take some pictures of an abandoned RR station, when I saw these [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Aren't they precious? Perhaps it's time to RTFM and take the camera out of AF-C mode? On 12/31/07 8:21 AM, in article lluhn31g03kq67c7gir16kiodpetvgq466@4ax.com, >> The other day I went to a one horse village called Runa, close to my home in >> Portugal, to take some pictures of an abandoned RR station, when I saw these [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Perhaps it's time to RTFM and take the camera out of AF-C mode? And have to MANUAL focus?!? The HORROR!!!! >On 12/31/07 8:21 AM, in article lluhn31g03kq67c7gir16kiodpetvgq466@4ax.com, >>> When I came home, I looked at the pictures and they all seemed out of focus! >>> I finally found it: the dynamic focus area was set to 51 point 3D. Now I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>> >>> http://atlantic-diesel.com/Dog1.jpg > Perhaps it's time to RTFM and take the camera out of AF-C mode? >And have to MANUAL focus?!? The HORROR!!!! No one is suggesting MF. AF-C by default will release the shutter when the camera hasn't locked focus (see options for release), there are also other interactions with dynamic FA. In the end it just might be that even the newer implementation of AF-C in the D300 still is lacking when it comes to stationary or near stationary subjects. I' have found that to be the case for the D200, and also the D70 which lack the release setting option of the D200/D300. On Dec 31, 11:51 am, m...@mine.net wrote: > In the end it just might be that even the newer implementation of AF-C in > the D300 still is lacking when it comes to stationary or near stationary > subjects. I' have found that to be the case for the D200, and also the D70 > which lack the release setting option of the D200/D300 Maybe they will come out with a firmware upgrade to fix the problem. It is sad that Nikon floods the market with these prototypes without doing proper in-house testing. Do they think their customers are beta- testers? >> In the end it just might be that even the newer implementation of >> AF-C in the D300 still is lacking when it comes to stationary or [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > doing proper in-house testing. Do they think their customers are beta- > testers? LOL! Canon had to do something with all the faulty AF focusing units left over from the Mk III fiasco. Do you think they are stupid enough to throw them out? Rita >On Dec 31, 11:51 am, m...@mine.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >doing proper in-house testing. Do they think their customers are beta- >testers? They are just following Canon's lead, no? On Dec 31, 4:07 pm, m...@mine.net wrote: > >Maybe they will come out with a firmware upgrade to fix the problem. > >It is sad that Nikon floods the market with these prototypes without > >doing proper in-house testing. Do they think their customers are beta- > >testers? > > They are just following Canon's lead, no? You said it. Canon leads, Nikon follows. Canon Rules and Nikon Drools. > On Dec 31, 4:07 pm, m...@mine.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > You said it. Canon leads, Nikon follows. > Canon Rules and Nikon Drools. Canon Fanbois Drool and Nikon users just laugh at them. SignatureRandy Howard (2reply remove FOOBAR) "The power of accurate observation is called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw >> On Dec 31, 4:07 pm, m...@mine.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Canon Fanbois Drool and Nikon users just laugh at them. Hahahaha. A very weak attempt to turn the tables. Annika is right, Canon rules! Colin D. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > The other day I went to a one horse village called Runa, close to my home in > Portugal, to take some pictures of an abandoned RR station, when I saw these [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > -- > Sosumi Hey Sosumi? Those bolts holding the rails in place were called "dogs" by the "fettlers" who used to drive the spikes into sleepers as they made the railways of the world. I know because I worked on the "trans Australian" standard gauge line across Australia's widest expanse of country back in about 1965. The paymaster used to motor out in an old 1937 Daimler converted for rail travel. No steering wheel, just a driver's seat and a back seat for the paymaster. In those old days it went: Sleepers then "fish plates" onto which went the rails and then the dogs were driven into holes bored in the sleepers with a hand auger. A "wild dog" was when you missed the spike with your hammer and hit the line itself. Do it more than a few times a day and you got your "marching papers" (fired). I think a far more compelling picture is there than just rail lines with a dog. Of course they no longer use wooden sleepers and spikes but it is none the less a very valuable part of the history of rail and could turn your photo into a memorable work of art if you can just find a man made rail line to photograph and show the comparison. Personally I think the rail lines are a compelling image alone. The dog destroys or at least detracts from an otherwise excellent photo. PQOTD On Jan 1, 3:23 pm, "Prisilla, Queen of the Desert" <prisil...@gmail.com> wrote: > I know because I worked on the "trans > Australian" standard gauge line across Australia's widest expanse of > country back in about 1965. The paymaster used to motor out in an old > 1937 Daimler converted for rail travel. No steering wheel, just a > driver's seat and a back seat for the paymaster. Fascinating story... But the trans australia rail line was completed in 1917. Perhasp Prissy is referring to repair work, or some of the alterations in the 60's to fix the gauge-change problems.. So when and where was this, exactly, Prissy? I presume it is documented in some museum somewhere? I'm fascinated by rail history and would love to see more information about this, but there is nothing on the Internet about it, unless I'm missing something... > On Jan 1, 3:23 pm, "Prisilla, Queen of the Desert" > <prisil...@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > and would love to see more information about this, but there is > nothing on the Internet about it, unless I'm missing something... Here you go again... Spouting bullshit for the sake of hearing the keyboard rattle. Not only bullshit but slander too. Your behaviour never changes, does it? Here is the truth... Something Mark Thomas AKA Charles Stevens (neither are names he uses in real life) has no regard for. Not only has he got the date wrong by 5 years but for someone claiming to have lived in the area the line passes through, he hasn't a clue about it. (Quoted from http://users.tpg.com.au/users/ipether/ausrhist.html ) The Trans Australian Railway was started in 1910 and took two years to construct, connecting the Eastern States with West Australia's Government Rail at Kalgoorlie. It took 70 years more to get the transcontinental connection of the Indian Pacific train as a single gauge trip across the country from Sydney to Perth. (end of quote) Using my advanced algorithm to calculate this complex math, I arrived at the date of 1980 as the time the *STANDARD GAUGE* conversion was finished. I have no idea what the poster whom you are slandering meant with their dates but very clearly you are showing your own stupidity in attacking him/her on a matter a 12 year old could verify in a Google instant. Exactly what is it about you "Mark" that has you making such a total idiot out of yourself all the time? Are you so obsessed with me that you can't think straight? Come on teach... Get it right or next year you'll be back in the bubs again... If you'll still have a job that is. D-Mac (crap) Whassamatter, Doug? Can't Prissy answer for herself? (O: As usual, you (and that website owner) are WRONG. Hint - when doing research, finding one personal web site is a little risky - as you just proved perfectly. Listen very carefully, Doug. It was finished on the 17 October 1917. The bill to create it wasn't even passed until 1911. Try here (MSN Encarta): http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=781531400 "Construction of the 1,691 km (1,051 mi) of 1,435 mm (4ft 8 y in) gauge line from Port Augusta, South Australia, to Kalgoorlie, Western Australia, began in the autumn of 1912 under the aegis of the newly formed Commonwealth Railways, and was finished in October 1917." Or here (Australian Bureau of Statistics): http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/abs@.nsf/dc057c1016e548b4ca256c470025ff88/3ddce9d 66e30df18ca2569de0028b415!OpenDocument "In the above table it will be seen that between 1st September, 1913, and 17th October, 1917. the date on which the eastern and western divisions met at 621 miles 58 chains ex Kalgoorlie, a total mileage of 1036 miles 35 chains was completed." I suggest you take a good long hard look at the table at the ABS site, which provides an exteremely comprehensive and complete timetable. So as usual, you completely screw everything up. Got the guts to come back and apologise, slimeball?? Or feel free to provide better information than that ABS page. > <mark.thomas.7@gmail.com> wrote >> On Jan 1, 3:23 pm, "Prisilla, Queen of the Desert" > > I have no idea what the poster whom you are slandering meant with > their dates Funny that you changed your email & I have to reset my filters, just when 'Prisilla' left.... Off topic. Just waiting for my apology. > Exactly what is it about you "Mark" that has you making such a total idiot > out of yourself all the time? Are you so obsessed with me that you can't > think straight? Come on teach... Get it right or next year you'll be back in > the bubs again... If you'll still have a job that is. Douglas, as pointed out above, I was right. The TARL became operational on October 17, 1917. Not in 1912. So you and Prisilla (what a coincidence) were wrong. Got the guts to apologise? Waiting... On Jan 23, 7:24 pm, mark.thoma...@gmail.com wrote:> Off topic. Just waiting for my apology.> On Jan 3, 11:40 am, "D-Mac" <o...@the.groups> wrote:> > > Exactly what is it about you "Mark" that has you making such a total idiot> > out of yourself all the time? Are you so obsessed with me that you can't> > think straight? Come on teach... Get it right or next year you'll be back in> > the bubs again... If you'll still have a job that is.> > Douglas, as pointed out above, I was right.> > The TARL became operational on October 17, 1917. Not in 1912.> > So you and Prisilla (what a coincidence) were wrong.> > Got the guts to apologise?> > Waiting...You seem to have your balls in a knot about this Mark old boy...Read the OP again. "STANDARD GAUGE" is the key. I only used your cut and paste method of research. Not my problem if the web site owner is wrong or maybe Microsoft are?Anyway even if it was 1917, 70 years later the "Standard Gauge" was completed. Lets see now... 17 and 70 Hmmm. Super secret math formular says... 1987. Well inside Pirsie's claim to have worked on it. Maybe that's where he got the desert thing for his name... You sure are a dick head Mark. Off topic, still waiting... > "STANDARD GAUGE" is > the key. I only used your cut and paste method of research. But I got it right. Guess you must be doing something different. > Not my > problem if the web site owner is wrong It is if you quote him like a dopey parrot, without checking.. > Anyway even if it was 1917 There it is folks, the closest you will ever see to admission of error by Douglas. > Well inside Pirsie's claim to have worked on it. If you read carefully, smegbrain, you'll notice I gently queried Prisilla (and we all know 'she' is you) about her dates. It was YOU I pulled up for the stupidly inaccurate quote. You lose again, no matter how much slimy wriggling you do. > The other day I went to a one horse village called Runa, close to my home in > Portugal, to take some pictures of an abandoned RR station, when I saw these > two wild dogs. Those dogs look like they are either very small, about the size of chihuahuas, or the tracks are huge. They must be puppies? SignatureWaddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor >> The other day I went to a one horse village called Runa, close to my home >> in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Those dogs look like they are either very small, about the size of > chihuahuas, or the tracks are huge. They must be puppies? They are pretty small, but bigger than any Chihuahuas I've ever seen. The one with longer hair is an adult male, probably 2-3 years old and likely some terrier or schnauzer in it. The other seems more like a puppy; maybe 6 months or so. He or she was also very playful. Looks like some pincher blood. Funny characters, to find a home in a sort of sewer, so close to the tracks. But they seems smart enough to survive. Maybe some people are feeding them. The male started warning me yesterday with a big GRRRR. SignatureSosumi |
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