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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / Australian Photography / November 2006Should I buy EOS 300D for $500?
I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! if you don't want it, let me know where the store is, even if its out of state, it would probably be cheaper for me to drive there and buy it than to get one from a local retailer :-) Oz >I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own > a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. > Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! > if you don't want it, let me know where the store is, even if its out of > state, it would probably be cheaper for me to drive there and buy it [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. >> Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! Should I buy a 400D for $980?? Is this a good price? >I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own > a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. > Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! I've owned a 300D but was never happy about its start-up time. A second or two is long enough for the photo opportunity to come and go while you're still waiting for the camera to warm up. In my opinion, this was the main drawback of the 300D. I upgraded to the 350D and the start-up is virtually instantaneous. If the start-up delay is not a problem for you, then the 300D is fine camera for the advanced amateur and that's a good price. Incidentally, the 300D has been superceded by the 350D and the 350D has been superceded by the 400D, so the 300D you're looking at is by no means "brand new". Possibly unsold shelf stock. >I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own > a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. > Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! No, compared to the current crop of D-SLR's from every manufacturer they are quite disappointing. how many of them are $500 new? >No, compared to the current crop of D-SLR's from every manufacturer they are >quite disappointing. Buy a later model and not geared to price. Digital is totally disposable as each incarnation model renders the last model of little value. Will still work of course but will be older [six months!] technology. > how many of them are $500 new? > >>No, compared to the current crop of D-SLR's from every manufacturer they >>are >>quite disappointing. I guess at $500 it would be good value but i would be very wary of any electronic equipment that had sat for years and not been used. > Buy a later model and not geared to price. Digital is totally disposable > as each incarnation model renders the last model of little value. Will [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>>are >>>quite disappointing. >I guess at $500 it would be good value but i would be very wary of any >electronic equipment that had sat for years and not been used. Yeah those electrons just wear themselves out your a card, do you do stand-up for a living HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Oz >your a card, do you do stand-up for a living HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! If he IS a card, then someone should deal with him..... He should be on the stage.....there's one leaving in ten minutes..... > I guess at $500 it would be good value but i would be very wary of any > electronic equipment that had sat for years and not been used. If you were talking 10 years I would certainly agree with you. MrT. >I guess at $500 it would be good value but i would be very wary of any >electronic equipment that had sat for years and not been used. > >> Buy a later model and not geared to price. Digital is totally disposable >> as each incarnation model renders the last model of little value. Will >> still work of course but will be older [six months!] technology. I'd still buy a Kodak DCS-14n, EOS-1D or a Fuji S2...they're pretty ancient by your standards. //Adam F >>I guess at $500 it would be good value but i would be very wary of any >>electronic equipment that had sat for years and not been used. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > //Adam F You can keep the Kodak, the others are built to a somewhat better standard than the 300D. As ever, the OP asked for others opinions and looks like we provided them! >Buy a later model and not geared to price. if price was no option we all would own 12 cameras and 2000 lenses... Meanwhile, back in the real world, a new 300D for $500.00 is a fuckin great deal - They go for $800 on ebay with the 'enthusiast' kit.. (2 sh.t lenses) I recently bought a very lightly used 300d for $650 cdn... it works great and I am having a blast... and finding new software all the time from suggestions on the newsgroups... oh, what fun... kk  Signature=>Kevin Kienlein - Entertainer/Inspirational Speaker =>Vernon, BC, Canada =>See my NEW WEBSITE http://www.kevinkienlein.com =>Never give in, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER! =>Life is the Gig, THIS AIN'T NO REHEARSAL! =>Age 46/Tricuspid, Atresia, Atrial & Vent, Septal Defects. =>My Congenital Heart Defects > >Buy a later model and not geared to price. > if price was no option we all would own 12 cameras and 2000 lenses... > > Meanwhile, back in the real world, a new 300D for $500.00 is a fuckin > great deal - They go for $800 on ebay with the 'enthusiast' kit.. (2 > sh.t lenses) >I recently bought a very lightly used 300d for $650 cdn... it works great >and I am having a blast... and finding new software all the time from >suggestions on the newsgroups... oh, what fun... kk http://www.photofiltre.com/ thanks for the link, but what am I looking for here??/ kk Signature=> Looking @ You Photography =>Kevin Kienlein - Entertainer/Inspirational Speaker =>Vernon, BC, Canada =>http://www.kevinkienlein.com =>Never give in, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER! =>Life is the Gig, THIS AIN'T NO REHEARSAL! =>Age 46/Tricuspid, Atresia, Atrial & Vent, Septal Defects. =>My Congenital Heart Defects >>I recently bought a very lightly used 300d for $650 cdn... it works great >>and I am having a blast... and finding new software all the time from >>suggestions on the newsgroups... oh, what fun... kk > > http://www.photofiltre.com/ >thanks for the link, but what am I looking for here??/ Sorry, see "Downloads" to download PhotoFiltre (image display and edit) and any Plug-Ins you fancy. I haven't tried the other downloads. Also have a look at http://www.imagewalker.com DS ok, tnx.. kk >>thanks for the link, but what am I looking for here??/ > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > DS > >Buy a later model and not geared to price. > if price was no option we all would own 12 cameras and 2000 lenses... > > Meanwhile, back in the real world, a new 300D for $500.00 is a fuckin > great deal - They go for $800 on ebay with the 'enthusiast' kit.. (2 > sh.t lenses) Just because morons buy 300D's at any price does not make it a good idea. If you want to do this then go for it. > >I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable > > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > No, compared to the current crop of D-SLR's from every manufacturer they are > quite disappointing. Compared to all the other new $500 DSLR's though, I think it's probably the best :-) MrT. >> >I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable >> > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > MrT. For just a little more now you can get a K100D, in my view a much better camera. I agree that the 300D will still take a fine photo but many things on the newer cameras are much better, if you had $500 and that was all I would recomend getting an all in one camera rather than the 300D, the basic camera will be only a small amount of what you will spend in the longer run. > For just a little more now you can get a K100D, in my view a much better > camera. It may be better, but "little more" is obviously a subjective term. >I agree that the 300D will still take a fine photo but many things > on the newer cameras are much better, if you had $500 and that was all I > would recomend getting an all in one camera rather than the 300D, the basic > camera will be only a small amount of what you will spend in the longer run. That I disagree with. I don't know of any "all in one" camera that is superior to the 300D, other than a wider zoom range. And if you build an SLR system based on the Canon, you can simply upgrade the body at any time in the future. Lets face it, the 400D is a far better camera, but it's over twice the price. A new 300D for $500 still looks like a bargain to me. MrT. >> For just a little more now you can get a K100D, in my view a much better >> camera. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > MrT. Why buy twice, makes not a lot of sense to me. The point is that as a percentage of what you will probably spend on the complete package it represents poor value. If you are just getting the basic camera then you will be very disappointed when you find out that an external flash is almost that price, a bigger zoom could easily set you back that much again, want macro, cheap version Tamron 90MM ($600). Should I go on. If you are indeed going to get other items then start with a newer, better camera, you will be very disappointed if you don't. > Why buy twice, makes not a lot of sense to me. Having more than one body can mean not having to switch lenses in a hurry. And digital technology is improving all the time, so there is very little chance you will never buy another body (or camera), the only question is what you do with the old one. Of course buying a 300D for $500 means you cannot lose more than that, even if you throw it away. OTOH those who bought a 20D for over $2,000, have already lost far more than $500. > The point is that as a percentage of what you will probably spend on the > complete package it represents poor value. If you are just getting the basic [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you are indeed going to get other items then start with a newer, better > camera, you will be very disappointed if you don't. OTOH a person could buy a $500 camera which is far superior to the POS ones at the same price. They could then add a bigger (non Canon) dedicated flash gun if they need it for $100, and a close up filter for less. Many would not even want to do that. AFAIC anybody prepared to spend a thousand dollars for a lens and flash gun, is NOT even looking at a Canon 300D. For those with a multi-thousand dollar budget, I quite agree with you, no point buying a 300D, *OR* an "all in one" POS. Your whole argument seems confused to me though, first you say buy a cheap "all in one" POS, or spend thousands on an SLR system. Some people will be far better off with a reasonable DSLR rather than an "all in one" POS IMO, and are not in the market for a mega dollar system. BTW, you can get a number of genuine Canon Macro lenses for around $600 or less. And I wouldn't call the Tamron cheap (or necessarily inferior, although I haven't used one personally) MrT. >> Why buy twice, makes not a lot of sense to me. > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > MrT. Cool, have fun! >>>I agree that the 300D will still take a fine photo but many things >>> on the newer cameras are much better, if you had $500 and that was all I [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Why buy twice, makes not a lot of sense to me. Why is there an automatic assumption that the OP will need to "buy twice"? >The point is that as a percentage of what you will probably spend on the >complete package it represents poor value. If you are just getting the basic >camera then you will be very disappointed when you find out that an external >flash is almost that price, a bigger zoom could easily set you back that >much again, want macro, cheap version Tamron 90MM ($600). Should I go on. Wish'n you would, because I don't get your argument at all. If you want those accessories, then you're going to be spending that kind of money *regardless* of the amount of money that you've spent on the body. > If >you are indeed going to get other items then start with a newer, better >camera, you will be very disappointed if you don't. Your argument seems to be predicated on the assumption that the 300D is so far behind current cameras that you'll just throw it aside in disgust. Frankly, that just ain't the case. Granted, I may have considered (briefly) upgrading mine to the 400D, but when I saw the softeness in Wayne Cosshall's sample shots (in his comparison against the 350D), I didn't see the point. Sure, I'd like the extra pixel count, I'd be interested to see whether the metering is better, but I don't see any *great* advantage in tossing aside my 300D at this point and simply don't plan to. Were I to win Powerball next week, then yes, I'd probably swap over to a 5D but that would be pure indulgence on my part, not need. Short of that, I could still see myself using the 300D in 2 or 3 years and whatever DOES eventually replace it will still be able to use my lenses and flash, etcetera. The only thing that it WON'T be able to use is the extra battery which, as well as being expensive as hell, is not the same type used in the 350D, 400D and presumably whatever succeeds them. >>>>I agree that the 300D will still take a fine photo but many things >>>> on the newer cameras are much better, if you had $500 and that was all [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > expensive as hell, is not the same type used in the 350D, 400D and > presumably whatever succeeds them. Whatever. Have fun with your 300D! >Whatever. Pete, I wasn't dissing your opinion... I just couldn't find myself agreeing with it on this occasion. > Have fun with your 300D! Always try to! 8^> >The only thing that it > WON'T be able to use is the extra battery which, as well as being > expensive as hell, Try a non Canon one then. I've had no problems with a $30 one in a 20D. >is not the same type used in the 350D, 400D and > presumably whatever succeeds them. They'll probably have something new by then. MrT. >Try a non Canon one then. I've had no problems with a $30 one in a 20D. I got some for $5 off ebay, and they last as long as my OEM canon one does ... you can get lots of after market batteries, I posted a list of places in the US to get them... I think they all come out of 1 or 2 factories, and they just put more expensive names on them... for my 300D, I found a place that I can get one for 10-15$ and I paid over $40 for a generic one in my town here in BC Canada.. if you want I can post them again... kk >>The only thing that it >> WON'T be able to use is the extra battery which, as well as being [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > MrT. > you can get lots of after market batteries, I posted a list of places in the > US to get them... I think they all come out of 1 or 2 factories, and they > just put more expensive names on them... actually..... since digitla cameras, battery manufacturing is a booming trade. Check out the list of exhibitors at the HK electronics show.... so many manufacturers to choose from. Also quite a few re-sellers among them too. in the age of digital, it didn't take long for a lot more companies to get on the bandwgon. kosh > I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own > a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. > Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! I was just looking at a 30D for $1700 from the US Is that a good buy? Make sure it comes with full 1 yr warranty, as 300D has an inherited defect. >I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own > a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. > Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! Which is? >Make sure it comes with full 1 yr warranty, as 300D has an inherited defect. Almost all of my friend who owns a 300D or people in the forum I administer have : 1. Secondary mirror fell off 2. Sensor or the imaging component died on em 3. Backfocus problem even when using L lenses. 4. Shutter died after around 20k clicks , some even less [some argued due to the camera being abused :)] Read up on Dpreview posts prior the 20D release to know what problem you might face. > Which is? > >>Make sure it comes with full 1 yr warranty, as 300D has an inherited >>defect. >Almost all of my friend who owns a 300D or people in the forum I administer >have : [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Read up on Dpreview posts prior the 20D release to know what problem you >might face. Actually in the reviews on the Fred Miranda site there was one, count 'em, ONE instance of a 300D failing at 4,000 shots out of a total of 68 reviews. Conversely another guy on there stated that "Any troubles with the Digital Rebel? This month, img_9999 restarted the counter to img_0001. Other than me being to blame for the Rebels inconsistencies, there have been no build, no program, no mechanical, no troubles whatsoever to report." As indeed has been the case with mine. There are consistent gripes about the body quality, crippled firmware and the lack of selectable metering mode, but NONE about any kind of "inherited (sic; ITYM "inherent") defect". Methinks it may not be quite the hardware catastrophe that it's being painted as. >> Which is? >> >>>Make sure it comes with full 1 yr warranty, as 300D has an inherited >>>defect. Then how can you explain the falling of the secondary mirror on 4 of my friends 300D unit ? All of them was purchased at various times and at various countries too. The only common thing of all that , is .. they are someone who know me but they don't know one another :) > There are consistent gripes about the body quality, crippled firmware > and the lack of selectable metering mode, but NONE about any kind of > "inherited (sic; ITYM "inherent") defect". Methinks it may not be > quite the hardware catastrophe that it's being painted as. > Make sure it comes with full 1 yr warranty, as 300D has an inherited defect. Really wassat? 300D with 10000 actuations here. >> I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable >> store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own >> a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. >> Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! Let me know when you reached 30k :) >> Make sure it comes with full 1 yr warranty, as 300D has an inherited >> defect. > > Really wassat? > 300D with 10000 actuations here. > Let me know when you reached 30k :) > >>> Make sure it comes with full 1 yr warranty, as 300D has an inherited >>> defect. >> Really wassat? >> 300D with 10000 actuations here. 30 k is the rated life of the shutter so what's the big deal? I'll have sold mine way before then. An every one a masterpiece. :-) SignatureJoan http://www.flickr.com/photos/joan-in-manly : > Make sure it comes with full 1 yr warranty, as 300D has an inherited defect. : : Really wassat? : 300D with 10000 actuations here. > I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own > a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. > Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! Depends. Are you coming from an EOS 3000 or an EOS 3? :) >> I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable >> store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own >> a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. >> Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! > > Depends. Are you coming from an EOS 3000 or an EOS 3? :) Just because it's Friday, I'm going to add: Depends. Are you coming from a Canon or a Nikon (or other) film camera? :) > I just saw an offer for a brand new EOS 300D for $500 from a reputable > store. Just wondering, is it worth it (and should I buy it)? I only own > a film SLR at the moment, so this would be my switch to digital. > Anything really missing from the camera in terms of functions? Thanks! One thought - ask the store for the serial number and check with Canon that you'll get a full warranty on it. The 300D was superceded by the 350D which has now been superceded by the 400D. I haven't checked specific dates but Canon DSLRs tend to follow an 18 month cycle, so that would mean the last 300D was probably manufactured 20+ months ago. Seems strange that a "new" body would still be available after all this time. Ask them why it hasn't sold. > The 300D was superceded by the 350D which has now been superceded by > the 400D. I haven't checked specific dates but Canon DSLRs tend to > follow an 18 month cycle, so that would mean the last 300D was probably > manufactured 20+ months ago. Seems strange that a "new" body would > still be available after all this time. Ask them why it hasn't sold. Not that surprising, they were probably asking too much for it before. They may have recently dropped the price. MrT. |
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