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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / Australian Photography / August 2006Canon 400D announced
HI All, Canon has announced the 400D, a 10MP dSLR. Press release is here: <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=653> Cheers, Wayne  SignatureWayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ >HI All, > >Canon has announced the 400D, a 10MP dSLR. Press release is here: ><http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=653> Bugger, you beat me to it. I knew that there was an announcement due around now and have been trawling their web site periodically. (No, I have no life, why do you ask? 8^> ) I just came across this: http://www.canon.com.au/eos400d/default.aspx Apparently the release date will be 8 September. Haven't found a price yet. > Bugger, you beat me to it. I knew that there was an announcement due > around now and have been trawling their web site periodically. (No, I > have no life, why do you ask? 8^> ) I just came across this: LOLOL It helps to be on their press mailing list. So another round of upgrades from all the manufacturers. This one will make 30D sales interesting. Cheers, Wayne SignatureWayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ >> Bugger, you beat me to it. I knew that there was an announcement due >> around now and have been trawling their web site periodically. (No, I >> have no life, why do you ask? 8^> ) I just came across this: > >LOLOL It helps to be on their press mailing list. Heh, good thinkin'... >So another round of upgrades from all the manufacturers. This one will >make 30D sales interesting. Indeed; it looks like the only two advantages that the 30D has (from what I've read so far) is the ability to go to a higher ISO (3200 vs 1600, on the rare occasions that you'd want to), and a considerably higher burst rate (5 fps to a maxuimum of 30 vs 3 fps to a maximum of 27). 30D may therefore still be a better choice for some semi-pro photojournalist types who need to capture action shots, but don't really need the extra pixel count to produce larger output. Still, my gut says that the 400D is targeted squarely at the pixel count of the Nikon D200. If the 30D becomes collateral damage in the process, then Canon can probably live with that. The price point is going to be most interesting. Perhaps the 400D will sit a little higher than the 30D (RRP $2300 but obviously can be had for less), and be more comparable with the D200 (can be had for say $2,680, both body only). If so, the 30D's price will probably drop to maintain price as a primary difference from the 400D. And if THAT happens, the 350D's price will probably have to drop as well. I can't see 30D becoming the new "entry level" camera. Or can I? All wild-a.s speculation on my part, of course. Guess we'll know come September... >>> Bugger, you beat me to it. I knew that there was an announcement due >>> around now and have been trawling their web site periodically. (No, I [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > All wild-a.s speculation on my part, of course. Guess we'll know come > September... The 400D is more like a slight upgrade to the 350D, not a reaplcement for the 30D. The 30D still has the upper hand in functionality for those who like the extra gadgets and a thumb wheel on the back (me). You've also got to look at the body construction and general feel of the thing. Personally I don't think I'd bother with it. >>> Bugger, you beat me to it. I knew that there was an announcement due >>> around now and have been trawling their web site periodically. (No, I [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > All wild-a.s speculation on my part, of course. Guess we'll know come > September... Rob Galbraith is listing the estimated street price at US$799 and US$899 with the 18-55 f3.5-5.6 II >>>>Bugger, you beat me to it. I knew that there was an announcement due >>>>around now and have been trawling their web site periodically. (No, I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >>photojournalist types who need to capture action shots, but don't >>really need the extra pixel count to produce larger output. also worth checking it's noise reduction system... the 30D does a dark frame exposure.... the 350D did not. I was using a 300D for awhile.. great noise performance...but it really showed during a 40 minute exposure at night..... that alone would have made it worth going the next step.... since I like taking night shots. kosh > also worth checking it's noise reduction system... the 30D does a dark > frame exposure.... the 350D did not. Actually, the 350D also has dark frame subtraction available. I've found very little practical difference with it on or off: if you pixel peep you might notice 10 pixels that are slightly more green, but that's about it. Here's an example: http://satin.sensation.net.au/350D-noise.jpg > I was using a 300D for awhile.. great noise performance...but it really > showed during a 40 minute exposure at night..... that alone would have > made it worth going the next step.... since I like taking night shots. Expose to the right! I've had two Canon bodies since my 300D (one of them pro) and they can't compare when it comes to clean night shots. It's a bugger that my 300D was stolen. http://www.drebtips.com/digital-rebel-300D/long-exposure/ > also worth checking it's noise reduction system... the 30D does a > dark frame exposure.... the 350D did not. A single dark does not get you much. You really need to take may and average them to aget good results. And you should also use flats to correct gain errors... SignaturePaul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd., +61 (08) 9257-1001 Kalamunda. West Australia 6076 comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked. EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be. That will make a mess of their 30D sales. > HI All, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wayne > HI All, > > Canon has announced the 400D, a 10MP dSLR. Press release is here: > <http://www.dimagemaker.com/article.php?articleID=653> That's the same as the new Rebel XTi in the US, isn't it? Annoying, the double-naming... >> HI All, >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That's the same as the new Rebel XTi in the US, isn't it? > Annoying, the double-naming... Sure is. Rebel XTi in the US, 400D in the rest of the world. SignatureWayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ > Sure is. Rebel XTi in the US, 400D in the rest of the world. Thanks. What's with the "Rebel" name for the US? Anyone know the culture/history behind it? Digi III announced : http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/20060824_leads_digicam_market.html -- <> Daniel Rocha | Photographie <> http://www.monochromatique.com > Digi III announced : > http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/20060824_leads_digicam_market.html Doesn't really look like an announcement to me, more a mild acknowledgement that it's being developed for future models (like that wouldn't be hard to guess :) ). The other 95% of that article is back patting by Canon. >> Sure is. Rebel XTi in the US, 400D in the rest of the world. > > Thanks. What's with the "Rebel" name for the US? Anyone > know the culture/history behind it? For some reason Canon want to identify the camera in a different way to their other models, that use sensible (and the same in all markets) numbering. I don't get it myself. SignatureWayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ > >> Sure is. Rebel XTi in the US, 400D in the rest of the world. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > their other models, that use sensible (and the same in all markets) > numbering. I don't get it myself. It's a marketing thing - there's some theory that Yanks like names whereas Europeans are more comfortable with numbers. Look at cars - Mercs, Beamers & Peugeots all use numbering schemes, whereas apart from the F-series trucks, you'd be hard pressed to find a numbered US model. Australian-manufactured cars tend to follow the names rather than numbers, yet we are relaxed and comfortable with numbers for other things, including Cameras it seems. >>>> Sure is. Rebel XTi in the US, 400D in the rest of the world. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > cars tend to follow the names rather than numbers, yet we are relaxed and > comfortable with numbers for other things, including Cameras it seems. I wonder if it is also about trying to discourage grey-marketing. Does the 20D/30D series also have a product name? and the 5D? or is it only the "Rebel" series? Just the Rebel. SignatureWayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ > Just the Rebel. In that case it does not make a lot of sense does it? >> Just the Rebel. > > In that case it does not make a lot of sense does it? Nope. SignatureWayne J. Cosshall Publisher, The Digital ImageMaker, http://www.dimagemaker.com/ Blog http://www.digitalimagemakerworld.com/ >> Just the Rebel. > > In that case it does not make a lot of sense does it? If you were in Japan you would be asking for a KISS ;-) >>> Just the Rebel. >> >> In that case it does not make a lot of sense does it? > > If you were in Japan you would be asking for a KISS ;-) My 13 year old daught will be in Japan in a few weeks must remember to tell her not to ask for a KISS, mind you if she sees a K10D then Dad will be happy if she brings one home. ;-) >>>>> Sure is. Rebel XTi in the US, 400D in the rest of the world. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > the 20D/30D series also have a product name? and the 5D? or is it only > the "Rebel" series? grey marketing does have something to do with it. Though I heard the Olympus stylus was called that and not the mju was because they had such a problem with it.... not that many people did not in oz as well! there is also an issue with luckynumbers etc. kosh >>>>>> Sure is. Rebel XTi in the US, 400D in the rest of the world. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > kosh Heehee, Misubishi call their 4x4 a Pajero, mind you with most Pajero drivers the name fits. > It's a marketing thing - there's some theory that Yanks like names whereas > Europeans are more comfortable with numbers. Look at cars - Mercs, Beamers & > Peugeots all use numbering schemes, whereas apart from the F-series trucks, > you'd be hard pressed to find a numbered US model. Australian-manufactured > cars tend to follow the names rather than numbers, yet we are relaxed and > comfortable with numbers for other things, including Cameras it seems. Interesting. Quite possible. Thanks for that. Photo Continental in Brisbane have the Canon Rep in-store from 9am on September 9th to launch the new EOS 400D. They will run quick demos etc with the new camera and be on-hand to answer any questions. They will also have a promotion running where anyone who purcahses a EOS 400D from PC's in September goes into a draw to win a Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L lens valued at approx $1200 Prices are now available on PC's website http://www.photocontinental.com.au/ishop/stock/search?keywords=eos+400d&supplier Code=&search=Search Information, specs and camera images will be available on the site soon See ya Petepc Signaturepetepc |
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