> > I not tell you that it's a great picture. You tell me it's worst.
> > I asked you to show me a great picture the difference.
> > To learn.
>> > I not tell you that it's a great picture. You tell me it's worst.
>> > I asked you to show me a great picture the difference.
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>criticism his way and Daniel has asked what these individuals think is a
>great picture.
You have a point about the criticism being non-constructive in this
particular thread, but there have been a number of instances where he
HAS received constructive, albeit vitriolic in some cases, criticism.
I actually felt sorry for the guy when I saw it happen in
rec.photo.digital.slr-systems (whose doorstep he hasn't darkened
since)... but I'm not so sure that I feel the same way now for reasons
that I'll come back to.
And this week's one is, it has to be said, utterly, UTTERLY woeful.
It's not clear exactly what, if anything, it's supposed to be
communicating. The guy with the stupid expression (yes, I know, he's
blowing a whistle, but so what?)... is he the focus of the picture as
well as being the only one IN focus? Or is it the blurred woman in the
centre? Is there any connection between them? None that I can see, so
IMHO one's distracting from the other, or they're both distracting
from the central theme of the picture which is... heaven only knows
what.
Normally I wouldn't be quite as strident about it; I DO try to see the
good in a picture, and after all art is subjective (and indeed, I know
that some people have complimented the photo; gods only know what they
see in it), but this one strikes me as being an instance of "trying
too hard" and is therefore ANNOYING. Instead of REALLY having
something to say, it looks like a "Gee, I wonder what'll happen if I
do this? Oh, gosh, that looks artistic and clever" exercise. Which
everyone probably DOES both with the camera and with PhotoShop, but
they don't necessarily feel the need to tell the world about. Which
leads to the main point...
>I can't figure out whether you are rude and ignorant or rude and lazy.
>Daniel's post is really quite easy to understand. Perhaps you might show a
>little more patience when English obviously isn't his first language ('this
>is an Australian forum, he should learn the language if he wants to post
>here' comments in 5-4-3-2 ....).
Not from me, but, and this is a rather large but... I'm thinking that
this might be tangential to a real, if unstated, problem that some
people may have with his postings. Consider how many HUNDREDS of
people post their photos to galleries like PBase or ShtterCity or
Photo.net *every* *day*. Consider what would happen to the signal to
junk ratio of the newsgroups if every ONE of them decided to announce
to the world, and I mean the *world*, "Hey, look, I've put up a new
photo on a web site!"
And he posts to French groups, UK groups, Japanese groups, an
Australian group, rec.photo.equipment.35mm ("equipment"? Does that
SEEM the right place for "Look, I took a new photo" posts?), Belgian
groups, Hong Kong groups... is his work so special that every person
on the planet NEEDS to know EVERY TIME he puts a picture up? And if
so, why not every other photographer as well? What fun that would be!
Look, good on him for taking a shot, making an effort, trying out new
things even when they don't work... [looks at picture again...] even
when they REALLY don't work, but his work is nowhere near special
enough to warrant a weekly posting in dozens of newsgroups around the
globe. He might aspire to be the reincarnation of Ansell Adams, but he
ain't. He really, really, ain't. Anyone who genuinely likes his work
(anyone? anyone?... sorry, couldn't resist) knows where his site is by
now; but this weekly posting across the globe is, IMHO just bandwidth
and archive-wasting.
(And yes, I know that part of the solution to that is to bozo-bin him,
but I try to reserve that for those who genuinely deserve it. And I
think his intentions are probably good; it's just that he's going
about it in a really bad way.)
>It is amusing that while educating others on the use of the English language
>you couldn't manage a sentence without a "f.ck" thrown in to demonstrate
>your own immense vocabulary. Thesaurus indeed.
Mr.T - 26 Jun 2006 11:17 GMT
> >Daniel didn't say it was great picture, it is *his* picture of the week, no
> >more, no less.
Yes, we already surmised that it may be his only picture that week.
> You have a point about the criticism being non-constructive in this
> particular thread,
Well he refuses to answer WHY he thinks it's "picture of the week, so I'd
say he is not really interested in a constructive dialog.
I do agree with your assessment of the last photo though.
MrT.
Daniel Rocha - 26 Jun 2006 12:36 GMT
> Well he refuses to answer WHY he thinks it's "picture of the week, so
> I'd say he is not really interested in a constructive dialog.
You'r not searching a constructive dialog.
My website present various series of pictures.
I show a different picture each week. Thats the
point.
Understood ?

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Fred - 26 Jun 2006 15:02 GMT
>> Well he refuses to answer WHY he thinks it's "picture of the week, so
>> I'd say he is not really interested in a constructive dialog.
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>
> Understood ?
Nope
www.thesaurus.com
www.dictionary.com
will assist you no end.
btw why do you have to post every friggin week to every usenet site?
if you want praise forget it because you are getting too close to
nuisance posting.
Alan K. - 26 Jun 2006 20:42 GMT
>> Well he refuses to answer WHY he thinks it's "picture of the week, so
>> I'd say he is not really interested in a constructive dialog.
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>
>Understood ?
No. Because you didn't answer the question that was asked.
Why are the *particular pictures* that you put up your "picture of the
week"? Is it because they are, for example:
(a) The only picture you've taken in that week? Or
(b) What you regard as the BEST picture that you've taken in that
particular week? Or
(c) Do you bring up thumbnails of every picture that you've ever
taken, throw a dart at your monitor, and use the thumbnail that the
dart hits as your "picture of the week"? Or
(d) Do you use some other method or criteria for selection?
Mr.T - 27 Jun 2006 06:29 GMT
> > Well he refuses to answer WHY he thinks it's "picture of the week, so
> > I'd say he is not really interested in a constructive dialog.
>
> You'r not searching a constructive dialog.
I'm not the one declaring them picture of the week either.
> My website present various series of pictures.
> I show a different picture each week. Thats the
> point.
> Understood ?
Nope. There are billions of photo's on the net. What makes yours special?
MrT.