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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / Australian Photography / June 2006more Ebay fraud
I just got a message from a bidder about a second chance offer they received for a camera I sold someone else. When I tried to reply to the fool and warn him about the fraud, he hid his Email address with "use-the-yellow-button@ebay.com.au" so I can't respond directly and Ebay gave me this notice when I tried to reply through the "proper channels". ---------- Attention! We have determined you are trying to contact an eBay member with whom you are not currently involved in an open transaction. For the protection of the eBay community, we sometimes block these types of communication. To prevent this occurrence from happening in the future, we recommend the following: If you are a seller, respond to all bidder questions before the auction ends. If you are trying to contact the seller of an item that has not yet ended go to the item page and click the “Ask seller a question” link. If you are the winning buyer of an item go to your My eBay page under the items I’ve Won section. Click the action drop down menu and choose the “contact seller” action. If you are a seller trying to contact your wining buyer, go to My eBay and under the Items I’ve Sold section, click the action drop down menu. Choose the “contact buyer” action. Reply to seller/bidder through personal email provider (if the sender has not hidden their email address). SO how stupid is all this security when it's the security itself, the crooks are relying on to fleece people?  SignatureFrom Douglas... My photographic site: http://www.douglasjames.com.au Canvas Archival and Metallic Prints: http://www.canvasphotos.com.au > I just got a message from a bidder about a second chance offer they > received for a camera I sold someone else. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > respond directly and Ebay gave me this notice when I tried to reply > through the "proper channels". I pissed ebay off. You can't get any reply from them in disputes or fraud its like chasing your own tail. Prices are never sensible its a game. The bit I have never liked was when they dropped the reserve price. This makes you set a higher starting price so ebay gets a larger listing fee. I have placed items up where Ebay has made more on an item. The winner is EBay. hi all LOT - have you looked at www.oztion.com.au australian spinoff of ebay >> I just got a message from a bidder about a second chance offer they >> received for a camera I sold someone else. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > The winner is EBay. > hi all > > LOT - have you looked at www.oztion.com.au > > australian spinoff of ebay Apart from there not being much there... Someone should tell the people selling there what a "Digital SLR" is. Under digital Slr there are 8 cameras, only one of which is a digital SLR. I notice this on ebay too. It's amazing how many compact p&s cameras you find listed under slrs. Is it that people don't know the difference, or are they deliberately trying to expose their ads to an audience that doesn't want that type of camera? >> hi all >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > trying to expose their ads to an audience that doesn't want that type of > camera? most don't know the difference..... or assume it is an SLR when in reality it is a bridge camera. kosh rant #1 most people are idiots rant #2 even regulatory authoritites can't do sh*te when it is staring them in the face...... just look at the vote on whaling! rant #3 it is obvious common sense will not prevail.... and is not just un-common... it appears to be a rarity rant #4 these sorts of details obviously don't make any difference anymore...... no wonder why experience is leaving the industry in droves.... and i am considering joining them! rant #4B ... case in point..... having to match Rabbit's pricing... when clearly illustrated in many post over the week many of them have no clue! rant #5 and finally... farewell Pinewood ! If you can't make it work..... who can?!? >>> hi all >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > most don't know the difference..... or assume it is an SLR when in > reality it is a bridge camera. It's shaped like an SLR, therefore it is an SLR. If I had a $ for everyone who thinks the Fuji S5600 is an SLR I'd be rich. > kosh > > rant #1 most people are idiots I possibly wouldn't go that far - instead I'd say most people don't bother to apply themselves sufficient to not look like idiots. > rant #2 even regulatory authoritites can't do sh*te when it is staring > them in the face...... just look at the vote on whaling! I think on a lot of topics our leaders have gone soft for fear of offending someone. We need leaders prepared to take tough decisions, and follow them through. > rant #3 it is obvious common sense will not prevail.... and is not just > un-common... it appears to be a rarity whoever called it "common sense" either came from a different time, or was lacking it so much that he couldn't recognise how uncommon it is. > rant #4 these sorts of details obviously don't make any difference > anymore...... no wonder why experience is leaving the industry in > droves.... and i am considering joining them! Welcome to the "Megapixel, zoom, dollars" world of marketing. In shops we know that is what sells, and unfortunately most of the camera companies know it too. In 2000 I bought a 2MP, 2x Zoom Kodak DC3400 digital camera. Last year I bought a 5MP HP digital camera. The 6yo Kodak despite it's low MP rating takes far better photos than the new camera. Yes it is lacking in some of the nice features that modern digital cameras have (low shutter lag for one), but at least it was built around the premise of good picture quality, rather than just big numbers at a pricepoint. > rant #4B ... case in point..... having to match Rabbit's pricing... when > clearly illustrated in many post over the week many of them have no clue! Add to that, having to match BigW, KMart etc on cameras and prints. Heck, have you ever compared a print from BigW to a frontier print? Easy to see why BigW only charge 20c for them, I'd consider myself ripped off getting that garbage back for 20c. > rant #5 and finally... farewell Pinewood ! If you can't make it > work..... who can?!? huh? >> rant #1 most people are idiots > > I possibly wouldn't go that far - instead I'd say most people don't > bother to apply themselves sufficient to not look like idiots. very diplomatic..... over the top...perhaps. In reality.... I think it is dissapointing people are not prepared to spend a few minutes getting to know something they just purchased or have owned for years. Ok, I have a bit of a science based background.... but really!!!!! people can't be bothered sometimes learning even the minimum.... seriously... how many people know you wave a remote at the television and don't know how it actually 'talks' to the tv..... or more on topic... hands a battery over wanting prints..... we all have a learning curve with new things.... but then there are way to many who don't want to. a current example... the idea to make it mandatory for reverse sensors on cars.... how about taking some responsibilty for navigating a 1+ tonne vehicle..... could keep going..... but a minor rant is turning into a bigger one.... note: the original email clearly stated it was a rant.... a not so well thought through statement including sweeping statements..... you can't say it was a surprise!!! >> rant #2 even regulatory authoritites can't do sh*te when it is staring >> them in the face...... just look at the vote on whaling! > > I think on a lot of topics our leaders have gone soft for fear of > offending someone. We need leaders prepared to take tough decisions, and > follow them through. oh yeah! >>> rant #1 most people are idiots >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > spend a few minutes getting to know something they just purchased or > have owned for years. What I find amazing is that people don't even know what brand of equipment they own, let alone the model. "I want a memory card for my camera" "what sort is it" "i dunno". or.. "I want an ink cartridge for my printer" "what sort is it" "i dunno". > Ok, I have a bit of a science based background.... but really!!!!! > people can't be bothered sometimes learning even the minimum.... You'd be amazed at the number of times I've had people want to return "faulty" cameras - open it up, turn the batteries around and away it goes. Or put a fresh set of batteries in and away it goes. This stuff ain't rocket science. > seriously... how many people know you wave a remote at the television > and don't know how it actually 'talks' to the tv..... or more on > topic... hands a battery over wanting prints..... Haha - yeah I've had plenty of those. One woman travelled about 200km specially so she could get some prints done for some special occasion, and only brought her battery. Then flew off the handle at us because we couldn't print from it, as if it was our fault. Then there are the people who hand you the camera "can you take the card out", so you do, then after they have done their prints hand you back the camera "can you put the card back in". C'mon, is it really that difficult? Perhaps it is, because we always seem to have at least one DPC partly down because someone has jammed a card into the wrong socket and ruined the card reader. >we all have a learning > curve with new things.... but then there are way to many who don't want to. or who believe that it is the responsibility of the store that sold it to them to teach them how to use it. I don't mind giving a bit of a rundown, or explaining things in the manual if it is using technical language or poorly worded (engrish manuals for example). But when a person is always coming in, or on the phone, wanting to know how to do a simple task that is clearly explained in their manual it gets a bit over the top. Or take the DPC terminals for example. They are touch screen, dead easy to use. If you read the screen, they pretty much tell you what you have to do. The very first screen has big text saying "touch screen to start", yet people will stand there with a stupid look on their face wondering what to do. When you say to them "touch the screen to start", they do, and the machine prompts them with what to do next. Once again, they stand there with a stupid look on their face. Actually, maybe I was being a bit too diplomatic in my previous post, maybe a big slab of the population really are idiots. > a current example... the idea to make it mandatory for reverse sensors > on cars.... how about taking some responsibilty for navigating a 1+ [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > oh yeah! <snip> > Actually, maybe I was > being a bit too diplomatic in my previous post, maybe a big slab of the > population really are idiots. My grandson says "Think just how dumb the average person is, and then think that half the population is dumber than that." He's right. Colin D. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > My grandson says "Think just how dumb the average person is, and then > think that half the population is dumber than that." He's right. Too true. But when surveyed 75% of the population thought they were above average intelligence. (and the majority didn't know what the average IQ was :-) MrT. >>My grandson says "Think just how dumb the average person is, and then >>think that half the population is dumber than that." He's right. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > MrT. ahh... but is intelligence and 'smartness' the same thing!?!?!? ie... the abiltiy to score well in a test does not always relate to how 'savvy' the person is > >>My grandson says "Think just how dumb the average person is, and then > >>think that half the population is dumber than that." He's right. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ie... the abiltiy to score well in a test does not always relate to how > 'savvy' the person is True, a sh.t house rat is pretty cunning, but doesn't necessarily rate highly on an IQ test. They can solve a maze better than many people though :-) Those with adequate intelligence know that "IQ" has a specific meaning. (the "Quotient" part is *not* redundant.) MrT. >>>>My grandson says "Think just how dumb the average person is, and then >>>>think that half the population is dumber than that." He's right. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > MrT. I think many factors effect how one scores in an IQ test. A good example was in the news a couple of days ago.... apparently english speakers use their language centeres in the brain whereas the chinese tested did not...... ok, so people think differently... and have different experiences and strengths..... IQ tests simply don't allow for this. mond you I would prefer to spend time with a person who has a 50 IQ but a hunger to understand the world around them.... campared to a 150 IQ who does not care how their food magically comes out hot from a microwave... it just does! > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Colin D. smart kid! now just teach him the perils of being marketed to....... that the most successful are not the richest....... and nobody knows all the answers.... some are just better and winging it and the kid is set for life! kosh |
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