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Photo Forum / General Photo Topics / Australian Photography / February 2006discontinued?
I heard that Canon EOS 10 D has been discontinued? can any one guide me weather its true?.. Is it good to invest on that SLR? >I heard that Canon EOS 10 D has been discontinued? can any one guide me > weather its true?.. Is it good to invest on that SLR? The 10D was discontinued a couple of years ago and replaced by the 20D.... the 20D is due to be replaced any time now and an announcement is expected from Canon at PMA which starts on the 26th of this month. Rusty http://www.pixelpix.com.au what?? even the 20D will be gone in the coming days?? I can see that even the oldest film cameras are still available in the market. Then why only theese digital SLRs are being discontinued? Do they have any problems? Is it the right time to invest on a digital SLR?? Get used to it. I have invested in good lenses & intend to upgrade a body every few years. Things are improving at the moment with Digital much much faster than any film body ever advanced. The question is ..will they get to a stage that lets a model settle for a long time ? Im very very happy the 20D but who knows..the next body might shoot ISO 6400 as well as the 20D shoots at ISO 3200., thus i would look at it...if it does similar to the 20D then i will wait until the next model. > what?? even the 20D will be gone in the coming days?? I can see that > even the oldest film cameras are still available in the market. Then > why only theese digital SLRs are being discontinued? Do they have any > problems? Is it the right time to invest on a digital SLR?? > what?? even the 20D will be gone in the coming days?? I can see that > even the oldest film cameras are still available in the market. Then > why only theese digital SLRs are being discontinued? Do they have any > problems? Is it the right time to invest on a digital SLR?? DSLRs are as much computer as they are camera.... can you still buy a 386 new these day??? ;-) Rusty http://www.pixelpix.com.au Yep I once paid $300 for 2 megs of Amega RAM (1990 i think it was) & look at it now...by comparison i would expext a roll of film in 1960 cost roughly the same in ratio to what it does now (i said roughly) Certainly not the diff in price as RAM Get my drift Dushyant ? >> what?? even the 20D will be gone in the coming days?? I can see that >> even the oldest film cameras are still available in the market. Then [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Rusty > http://www.pixelpix.com.au >what?? even the 20D will be gone in the coming days?? I can see that >even the oldest film cameras are still available in the market. Then >why only theese digital SLRs are being discontinued? Do they have any >problems? Is it the right time to invest on a digital SLR?? It may surprise you to know that 2005 Toyaotas have been superceded by 2006 Toyotas. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a 10D, it is a fine camera. The 20 D has more/different features as will its replacement. If you were to buy a 10D today that was in good condition, it would serve you well for many years. So what you all are telling is that there is a rapid improvement in Digital SLRs. And I too have to agree that in the coming days the iso will increase to 6400 too. No doubt. I also saw a review that there is a camera called HASSELBLAD which has 39megapixel !! So what will happen to the popular models which are still in 6-12 megapixel ?? This scares me a lot. Its like a night mare! You invest in a good expensive camera... but in a overnight's time u realise that there is a new brand, for the same price, much advanced than yours! >So what you all are telling is that there is a rapid improvement in >Digital SLRs. And I too have to agree that in the coming days the iso [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >camera... but in a overnight's time u realise that there is a new >brand, for the same price, much advanced than yours! This happens in the computer marketplace every day. Technology moves on. The Pentium III 200 that you paid so much money for 5 years ago is now worth nothing. It still works, it still does everything it was supposed to do. You upgrade your computer with a brand new $300 120Gbyte hard drive only to find that next week you could have bought a 250 Gbyte for $200 - so what . It also happened with film SLRs . Nikon Canon etc didn't make one camera in 1965 and then stop. New models with new features came out every year. If you want to buy a camera, work out what features you want, find the camera that suits at the price you can afford and buy it. I'll guarantee that there will be a bigger,better faster one next month, but it doesn't matter. A camera is not an investment - it is a liability. It will depreciate the moment you buy it, but you can't take a photo without one. Your only alternative is to sit back and wait until technology stops, by then, I'm afraid, it will be too late. If you want to take photographs, get out there and do it. There are lots of people taking lots of good photos with 4 Megapixel digicams that they bought 3 years ago, many of them are having a lot of fun. Oh sorry that I sad too bad about technology! any way my concern was that the value what I will be paying for it should last long. In computers we have the option to upgrade. But what about the digital SLRs.??! Yea another point what you said is absolutely true. We cannot wait for the end of technology. But the problem is that i have made my hardest effort to save some money especially for slr camera. And more over I am from a middle class society I cannot afford again and again on the digital SLRs. So... thinking weather its the right time to buy the stuff or not. > Oh sorry that I sad too bad about technology! any way my concern was > that the value what I will be paying for it should last long. The value is in the images that it takes, not in the camera itself. The camera doesn't magically stop taking photos once a new camera is released, nor do your existing images turn to crap because a new camera provides better resolution etc. So for as long as your camera keeps taking photos you are getting value! > In computers we have the option to upgrade. Same with cameras and more so with DSLR.... for many the body will actually be the smallest investment of their kit, with their lenses (they don't need to be upgraded if good quality glass was purchases in the first place) being the majority. > But what about the digital SLRs.??! Yea another point what you said is > absolutely true. We cannot wait for the end of technology. > But the problem is that i have made my hardest effort to save some > money especially for slr camera. And more over I am from a middle class > society I cannot afford again and again on the digital SLRs. So... > thinking weather its the right time to buy the stuff or not. Buy a camera that takes images that you are happy with.... the day that you are NOT happy with your images is the day you look for a new one, but while you're happy with your results ignore the product updates. Rusty http://www.pixelpix.com.au Well.. this topic started all because of canon eos 10D which I had got a proposal to buy. But as it was a discontinued model I had to reject it! Still cant believe that I rejected it. But mean while I am making survey of which one holds good to me. There are a couple of them in my mind which i would like to share it with u. They are.... canon eos 350D canon eos 20D nikon D100 nikon D70s Pentax *ist DL I heard that eos 350D is an entry level model. Not sure what it means. Featrues are rich though. Canon eos 20D is good too. Nikon D70s is little expensive when it comes to megapixel. Pentax is not yet availabe. Wish canon had not discontinued the eos 10D :( > Well.. this topic started all because of canon eos 10D which I had got > a proposal to buy. But as it was a discontinued model I had to reject > it! Still cant believe that I rejected it. I still don't understand what you're on about. >But mean while I am making > survey of which one holds good to me. There are a couple of them in my [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > nikon D70s > Pentax *ist DL I can't belive you are serious with the above list. The Canon 20D is about three times the price of the Pentax *ist DL! > I heard that eos 350D is an entry level model. Not sure what it means. It means that it is Canons cheapest DSLR, still *far* better than the Pentax DL which is also their entry level. > Featrues are rich though. Canon eos 20D is good too. Nikon D70s is > little expensive when it comes to megapixel. Nikon D50 is cheaper then. >Pentax is not yet availabe. Sure it is, has been for months. > Wish canon had not discontinued the eos 10D :( What is it exactly about the 10D that you prefer to it's replacement 20D? MrT. What I ment was that Some one was ready to sell EOS 10D for a good price. Everything was fine but in the net it sais its a discontinued model and in place of it canon has introduced EOS 20D! I am not sure why it was discontinued... may be because the model was old or had some defects which it was reintroduced as 20D... not sure! OH is it? EOS 20D is 3 times the price of Pentax?.. ok.. i searched for all my city but still no clue of Pnntax. But Pentax seems to be a good model to me. Entry level meas cheapest model? I thought it must be less featured.. not ment for professionals. Any ways thanks for making me knowledgable in this area. Then i better stick to EOS 350D or EOS 20D. >What I ment was that Some one was ready to sell EOS 10D for a good >price. Everything was fine but in the net it sais its a discontinued [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Then i better stick to EOS 350D or EOS 20D. Why not an EOS 5D or an EOS 1DS? Why not a Nikon D2H or D2x? I really think that you had better sit down and make a list of your requirements. I don't think you have the vaguest idea of what you are getting into. Why do you want a DSLR? What lens(es) are you going to buy with it? How much do you actually understand about photography? A thousand questions come to mind. As I said, sit down and make a list of what you want and what you know. I hate to see people waste their money. This digital cammera is in my mind very recently.. say about 2 months from now. In this 2 months i also took some photography classes from a well known photographer in town. The dessire for photography is increasing, I see the pictures verycarefully... try to improve on it. Every one has their own openion.. but seeing my funds.. seeing the digital camera costs, its clear that I can easily buy canon EOS 350D or if i am lucky enough i may get EOS 20D. 10D is gone .. I rejected the offer and now I dont get for that price :( and about the lens.. i heard that canon lens are bit expensive compared to sigma lens! This is what I have in mind till now. Sorry if i am disturbing u guys too much in this.. but thats why i am into this group... to make my decissions better.! Unless you were getting the 10D for $800 or less you would have been paying too much. There was nothing wrong with the 10D but to give you a hand consider it the 2002 model. It was replaced with the 20D which is essentially the 2004 model. The 20D has now been replaced with the 30D which is the 2006 model. You can't buy a 2002 camry these days as they only sell the 2006 model new, same with the camera. The Canon lenses are good, maybe expensive but they last. Try getting them 2nd hand. I own both Sigma and Canon and don't have a problem with any of them. How much are you looking to spend? A $300 lens in either brand is going to be crap compared to a $2000 Canon lens.  Signaturepetal666 Oh god! 30D has already arrived?? Another good news and bad news. Yea what you said is all correct. And one more interesting part what you gave... which I had never thought of was the second hand lenses. I better settle the things fast. Have some good hopes now :) I havent thought of the lens part yet... doing some homeworks on this EOS 20D and D100 (nikon) Dushyant Wrote: > doing some homeworks on this > EOS 20D and D100 (nikon)The D100 is also superseded by the D200. Signaturepetal666 > Oh god! 30D has already arrived?? Another good news and bad news. Yea > what you said is all correct. And one more interesting part what you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I havent thought of the lens part yet... doing some homeworks on this > EOS 20D and D100 (nikon) ummmm that would be the EOS 30D vs D200 thing I know that Canon lens are far better than Sigma lens. But all at a time I cannot afford the digital camera as well as its company lenses too. Oh my gosh! the digital rates in grey itself is sooo much. And even the prices are increased I beliveve. And yea EOS 30D or the D200 are definatly far better than the EOS 10/20D and D100 but if i have to buy that I may have to wait for another 2-3 months!! You could always go 2nd hand. I might need to sell my 20D to get a 30D if I have the cash. Signaturepetal666 How much are u charging for your 20D? and whats the price for 30D? Dushyant Wrote: > How much are u charging for your 20D? and whats the price for 30D?Sold my other 20D body about 2 weeks ago for $1650 and while the 30D announcement will have pushed that down a little, I'm looking to get $1500. RRP on the 30D body is $2299. Signaturepetal666 > and about the lens.. i heard that canon lens are bit expensive compared > to sigma lens! and if canon lenses were cheaper then they too would be crap! in all seriousness it is really hard to try to compare the likes of Canon/Nikon etc. lenses against Sigma.... who do make some good lenses, but there is generally a very good reason for the price difference. it's like saying your not buying a holden becase the no name brnad parts are so much cheaper....... > What I ment was that Some one was ready to sell EOS 10D for a good > price. Everything was fine but in the net it sais its a discontinued [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Then i better stick to EOS 350D or EOS 20D. was it a good price for a discontinues model.... who's repalcement is about to also be superseeded? As you were unaware it was discontinued I wonder if your idea of it being a good price still holds true? > Entry level meas cheapest model? I thought it must be less featured.. > not ment for professionals. Yes, the cheapest models are less featured and not meant for professionals. What else would you expect? > Then i better stick to EOS 350D or EOS 20D. Good choice, but choosing the lenses you require is just as important. MrT. |
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