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NOT SHOT WITH A D20!

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uw wayne - 29 Jan 2006 23:14 GMT
I shot this a week ago with a range finder and 400 watt second Ikelite
strobe. Velvia. On board flash units just don't have enough power.
http://www.pbase.com/uw_wayne/image/55371946
Annika1980 - 30 Jan 2006 02:19 GMT
Scott W - 30 Jan 2006 06:17 GMT
> I shot this a week ago with a range finder and 400 watt second Ikelite
> strobe. Velvia. On board flash units just don't have enough power.
> http://www.pbase.com/uw_wayne/image/55371946
I could be a very nice photo but it is way over compressed.

Scott
JimKramer - 30 Jan 2006 13:03 GMT
But you have to admit that it was amusing to pick that image and
complain about not enough flash power...
uw wayne - 31 Jan 2006 01:10 GMT
I could not get two 400 watt strobes like I waned. Too much curret to
hold onto the gear.
uw wayne - 31 Jan 2006 01:17 GMT
Yeah, the stobe was fired all out at f5.6
Chris Loffredo - 30 Jan 2006 15:18 GMT
>>I shot this a week ago with a range finder and 400 watt second Ikelite
>>strobe. Velvia. On board flash units just don't have enough power.
>>http://www.pbase.com/uw_wayne/image/55371946
>
> I could be a very nice photo but it is way over compressed.

Yes, digital cameras have the magic "underwater landscape" programme
mode which of course avoids that...
Scott W - 30 Jan 2006 15:38 GMT
> >>I shot this a week ago with a range finder and 400 watt second Ikelite
> >>strobe. Velvia. On board flash units just don't have enough power.
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> Yes, digital cameras have the magic "underwater landscape" programme
> mode which of course avoids that...

Come on Chris it has nothing to do with the camera and everything to do
with how the photo was saved after it was edited.  When the photo was
saved it was save at far to low a quality setting.  If it was highly
desirable to keep the file size as small as it is then reducing the
size of the image before saving would have made a lot of sense.  Keep
in mind that this is an image with around 35MP but only uses 1.4MB.
That is a compression ratio of 75:1 which goes well past what jpg can
do with out big problems, problems that are clearly visible in the
image.

Scott
Chris Loffredo - 30 Jan 2006 16:35 GMT
>>>>I shot this a week ago with a range finder and 400 watt second Ikelite
>>>>strobe. Velvia. On board flash units just don't have enough power.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> do with out big problems, problems that are clearly visible in the
> image.

Come on Scott, I am not arguing about the technical details; are you
*sure* that you would have made the very same comment (or any comment at
all) if the shot had been taken with a digital...
Scott W - 30 Jan 2006 16:55 GMT
> Come on Scott, I am not arguing about the technical details; are you
> *sure* that you would have made the very same comment (or any comment at
> all) if the shot had been taken with a digital...

If I think this is a problem with the image I will say so, like this
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.photo.digital/browse_frm/thread/6c86695eeb044
ff3/2f610fbb886abe9b?lnk=st&q=biphoto&rnum=99&hl=en#2f610fbb886abe9b


Where I said "I downloaded on image Nature_A.  I don't know what is
wrong but it
looks pretty bad, full of noise, black specks.
There are also a lot of places where the detail seems to be just gone."

Scott
uw wayne - 31 Jan 2006 01:16 GMT
Any idea where I can buy that one? Setting apertures, shutter speeds,
manually focusing and then having to do a mental calulation on the
flash output is getting to be too much. It would help too if the marine
life forms would model and not move so damn fast..
uw wayne - 31 Jan 2006 01:09 GMT
But the original Tiff is ot
Scott W - 31 Jan 2006 02:19 GMT
> But the original Tiff is ot
I am sure this is true, I was speaking to how you posted the photo,
which have far too much compression.

Here is another example that could be a very good photo but is
compressed way to much
http://www.pbase.com/uw_wayne/image/53110458/large

When photos are compressed to this degree the sky starts to band and we
see squares everywhere.  It would be much better to resize a bit
smaller and use a high quality setting.
With just some small changes you online photos could look a whole lot
better.

Scott
uw wayne - 31 Jan 2006 04:05 GMT
 
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