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Epson photo papers - rec needed

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Donald Specker - 28 Dec 2005 21:35 GMT
Just getting up to speed with an Epson R1800 printer, which came with
samples of enhanced matte and premium glossy papers.  Both are nice, but I'm
leaning more toward the matte route.  Any suggestions for other papers to
try?  Is the enhanced matte their best matte option?  What does the enhanced
refer to?

Thanks!
Paul Furman - 28 Dec 2005 22:53 GMT
> Just getting up to speed with an Epson R1800 printer, which came with
> samples of enhanced matte and premium glossy papers.  Both are nice, but I'm
> leaning more toward the matte route.  Any suggestions for other papers to
> try?  Is the enhanced matte their best matte option?  What does the enhanced
> refer to?

People seem to like the 'pearl' paper for these pigment ink printers. I
think there is a special gloss setting so you don't get the change
inreflectivity at the edge of the print, maybe it was that folks would
add a white border to the image before printing? I guess 'pearl' is a
semi-gloss kind of thing, I'd like to find a sample pack to test with
then order roll stock & cut sizes to suit. Here's something I had in my
bookmarks as a paper source:
http://www.redrivercatalog.com/browse/index.htm
...though they don't seem to have anything called perl.
Hmph.
anonomous individual - 28 Dec 2005 23:24 GMT
>> Just getting up to speed with an Epson R1800 printer, which came with
>> samples of enhanced matte and premium glossy papers.  Both are nice,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> ...though they don't seem to have anything called perl.
> Hmph.

Smooth Perl Paper = Illford Galleria.
The real hidden problem with all "instant dry" papers and Illford point
it out in their brochure, is that the ink never really dries, just gets
absorbed into the microscopic pores of the ceramic dust the papers are
coated with.

Expose them to the atmosphere and the inks will eventually evaporate,
leaving a blank page. You can overcome this by spraying the finished
print with "photocoat" a generic description of the old 'UV' protector
coatings artist have been using for years. Also laminating extends the
life too but this has it's own unique problems with the type of glue in
the laminate.

Generally speaking the matte papers are coated with gelletine which is
absorbed into the paper itself and any ink also is absorbed. These
papers will last the longest.

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Paul Furman - 29 Dec 2005 00:27 GMT
>>> Just getting up to speed with an Epson R1800 printer, which came with
>>> samples of enhanced matte and premium glossy papers.  Both are nice,
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> absorbed into the paper itself and any ink also is absorbed. These
> papers will last the longest.

Thanks. Does that give the slow drying gummy delicate results I got from
some crappy kodak paper once? It got damaged just rolling out of the
printer. I guess it wouldn't be as bad as that maybe just a little more
care in handling. The gloss is also nicely smudge and water resistant,
not that kodak crap.
anonomous individual - 29 Dec 2005 01:21 GMT
> Thanks. Does that give the slow drying gummy delicate results I got from
> some crappy kodak paper once? It got damaged just rolling out of the
> printer. I guess it wouldn't be as bad as that maybe just a little more
> care in handling. The gloss is also nicely smudge and water resistant,
> not that kodak crap.

Kodak paper is not suitable for all printers, even though they say it
is. Their product model is to allow slower drying rather than risk
evaporation of the inks. It only works on some specific printers. This
is one reason why Kodak have such a shocking reputation for inkjet
paper. If they had only been totally up front with their product
information instead of using the packer for every language on the
planet, they might have gotten somewhere by now.

Who knows the difference between "everyday" photo paper and "picture
paper"? Far too many products, far too much confusion. Better off with
Illford or Epson papers.
Terry Paget - 29 Dec 2005 08:01 GMT
> The real hidden problem with all "instant dry" papers and Illford point
> it out in their brochure, is that the ink never really dries, just gets
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> absorbed into the paper itself and any ink also is absorbed. These
> papers will last the longest.

I didn't know this and appreciate your comments very much.  Thank you.

Terry Paget
Ace - 29 Dec 2005 06:01 GMT
Donald

You might like things from  inkjetart.com . I used their glossy roll
paper lately. Nice results with an Epson 2200.

Bob  AZ
 
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