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T.O. - 27 Nov 2005 21:45 GMT
I need a mid range 24mm to whatever (prefer 24mm on the wide end since this
is going on a digital camera) high quality zoom and am looking for
suggestions.
I don't mind paying pro lens prices, if it's worth it.

Need something that will produce excellent color and little distortion.
(product shots for web)

Nikon camera.

Thanks
T.O.
Jim - 27 Nov 2005 22:14 GMT
>I need a mid range 24mm to whatever (prefer 24mm on the wide end since this
>is going on a digital camera) high quality zoom and am looking for
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> Thanks
> T.O.

Either the 24-120 or the 28-105 would fit your definition.
Jim
Tony  Polson - 27 Nov 2005 23:56 GMT
>>I need a mid range 24mm to whatever (prefer 24mm on the wide end since this
>>is going on a digital camera) high quality zoom and am looking for
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>>
>Either the 24-120 or the 28-105 would fit your definition.

No, neither of these fits the OP's definition.

The 24-120mm suffers from severe distortion, and the 28-105mm suffers
from noticeable vignetting at the 28mm end, which in any case isn't
wide enough.  The OP clearly stated a need for 24mm.

I would recommend the 20-35mm f/2.8 AF-D Nikkor, available used at
surprisingly reasonable prices.  

The 20-35mm f/2.8 was discontinued in favour of the 17-35mm, but it
remains a remarkable optic, one of the best wide angle zoom lenses
ever made.  It delivers resolution and contrast to match any of the
f/2.8 fixed focal length Nikkors in the 20-35mm range, except the 28mm
f/2.8 AF-D (only the AF-D 28mm is worth considering) and its
distortion is negligible.  On a DSLR it is a useful (equivalent)
30-52.5mm zoom.

It is advisable to try before you buy, because a small proportion of
these lenses suffered from chromatic aberration that gave visible
colour fringing.  I owned two examples, neither of which had this
problem, but it is best to check.  If buying by mail order, or from
eBay, ensure the seller has a good returns policy.

The 17-55mm f/2.8G AF-S Nikkor may also be worth considering.  I
haven't had the opportunity to test one, but have heard very good
reports.  The focal length range is exceptionally useful, being
equivalent to 25.5-82.5mm on a 35mm film camera.  It is also very good
value for money.  Once again, try before you buy or buy from a seller
with a good returns policy.
T.O. - 28 Nov 2005 00:40 GMT
Thanks. I have the 17-35 f2.8. Awesome lens. I was trying find something
that would have just a bit more reach--when needed--so I could back off a
bit.
Any comments on the Nikon 24-85 f2.8-4.0? Anyone notice any distortion at
the wider end.

I'm shooting fabric and sometimes the fabric has lines, squares, rectangles,
etc. It wouldn't look good to have a round square!

I wouldn't be opposed to a third party lens either.

Thanks all.
T.O. Galloway

>>>I need a mid range 24mm to whatever (prefer 24mm on the wide end since
>>>this
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> value for money.  Once again, try before you buy or buy from a seller
> with a good returns policy.
Tony  Polson - 28 Nov 2005 01:31 GMT
>Thanks.

You're welcome.

>I have the 17-35 f2.8. Awesome lens. I was trying find something
>that would have just a bit more reach--when needed--so I could back off a
>bit.

OK, understood.

>Any comments on the Nikon 24-85 f2.8-4.0? Anyone notice any distortion at
>the wider end.

It's a horrible lens.  Distortion is severe - barrel at the wide end,
pincushion at the tele end.  Unsharp unless well stopped down.

There's a later version, the 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G AF-S which has better
optics and Silent Wave Motor focusing.  The distortion is
significantly less but it is still there.
 
>I'm shooting fabric and sometimes the fabric has lines, squares, rectangles,
>etc. It wouldn't look good to have a round square!
>
>I wouldn't be opposed to a third party lens either.

You are unlikely to find a better lens in a third party brand.  Maybe
you could follow Matt Clara's suggestion, and buy fixed focal length
Nikkors?  

The 24mm f/2.8 (all versions) and the 28mm f/2.8 AF-D (only the D
version) are optically excellent in every way.  The 35mm f/2 has low
distortion, as do both the 50mm AF lenses (f/1.4, f/1.8) which are
also extremely sharp.  

In zooms, the 28-70mm f/2.8 AF-S is optically excellent, and you could
supplement this with a 24mm fixed focal length lens.

But I come back to my earlier suggestion of the 17-55mm f/2.8G AF-S
Nikkor.  You might like to read these reviews, from Thom Hogan and
Bjørn Rørslett, both of whom are respected reviewers of Nikon gear:

http://www.bythom.com/1755lens.htm#autofocus
http://www.naturfotograf.com/lens_zoom_01.html#AFS17-55G

Both reviews mention distortion.  Only you will know how much of this
is acceptable for your work, but the 17-55mm f/2.8G distorts far less
than both 24-85mm versions - and both 24-120mm versions too.
Matt Clara - 27 Nov 2005 22:45 GMT
>I need a mid range 24mm to whatever (prefer 24mm on the wide end since this
>is going on a digital camera) high quality zoom and am looking for
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Thanks
> T.O.

17-35mm f2.8 afs.  But really, for product shots, I'd use fixed focal
lengths, and the old Nikon Ai-S lenses go for a song anymore.  The 24mm f2.8
is an excellent lens, and the 28mm f2.8 is even better (sharper and more
well corrected).

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Regards,
Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com

uw wayne - 27 Nov 2005 23:07 GMT
Yes Matt but for his application he could do nicely with the 18-35
3.5-4.5 for a ton less $$$.
Matt Clara - 28 Nov 2005 00:47 GMT
> Yes Matt but for his application he could do nicely with the 18-35
> 3.5-4.5 for a ton less $$$.

The 18-35 is not as well corrected as the 17-35mm, but you're right, for the
web it's overkill.  Still, he said he wanted a pro lens...

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Regards,
Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com

Tony  Polson - 28 Nov 2005 01:34 GMT
>Yes Matt but for his application he could do nicely with the 18-35
>3.5-4.5 for a ton less $$$.

The OP specifically mentioned a need for low distortion.  This lens
has horrible distortion, plus it isn't especially sharp.  

Anyone considering purchasing the 18-35mm Nikkor should also consider
the Tokina 19-35mm f/3.5-4.5, which has better sharpness and much
lower distortion and costs a fraction of the price of the Nikkor.
 
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