greetings. i am a film - 2 1/4 photograper and i would like to post
some of my photos on the web.
my question is do i need a good scanner to do thhis. of course we are
talking about money
please advise the least expensive model that would still give me very
good results.
i don't want something that will not make my photos look good.
thank you! neutron
uw wayne - 23 Nov 2005 01:27 GMT
If you just want something to post on the net buy any cheap scanner
that will take medium format, a lower cost flat bed scanner. If you
want to scan and print, upgrade. Nikon film scanner will be outstanding
but expensive. Get a flat bed as a compromise.
Matt Clara - 23 Nov 2005 02:59 GMT
> If you just want something to post on the net buy any cheap scanner
> that will take medium format, a lower cost flat bed scanner. If you
> want to scan and print, upgrade. Nikon film scanner will be outstanding
> but expensive. Get a flat bed as a compromise.
A good compromise is the Epson 4990. Certainly more than good enough for
web pics, with the ability to make digital files worthy of print:
http://tinyurl.com/azsz7

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David Dyer-Bennet - 23 Nov 2005 04:57 GMT
> greetings. i am a film - 2 1/4 photograper and i would like to post
> some of my photos on the web.
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>
> i don't want something that will not make my photos look good.
If you have good prints of above proof size, you can do a decent job
for web display with nearly any flatbed scanner.
If you want to scan the slides/negatives and work from there
(essentially doing the "printing" process of color and density control
in Photoshop), then you need a considerably better scanner.
Start from what size you want to put the photos on the web at -- let's
say you want a photo to fit within a 600x600 pixel square on the
screen (many people choose a smaller size than that). Now consider
what size your negatives are, and calculate the number of pixels per
inch on the negative you need to scan at.
Actually, I'd scan at 1.5x or 2x that resolution, based on my
experience of working from film.
To get that, you need to scan at (600*2) / 2.25 pixels per inch, or
533 pixels per inch. So, as you can see, you don't need an especially
high-resolution scanner to do this job.
What you *do* need is a scanner that produces *good* pixels, and a
scanner that's capable of handling the max density of what you've got
-- slides having a much higher dmax than negs, of course, and being
correspondingly harder to scan.
The "best" choice is a medium format dedicated film scanner, which
will be *far* better than you need for this and very expensive, but
will give you the best results you can get yourself. (Well, you
*could* buy a first-rate drum scanner and learn how to use it, but
let's be reasonable.) The Nikon Super Coolscan 9000 ED should be
marvelous. It does cost nearly $2000, though.
The much more affordable choice is a flatbed scanner with transparency
adapter (well, they tend to be built-in these days). These will have
perfectly adequate resolution; what you'll need to look for is one
that has good enough dmax. Epson makes some reasonable choices last I
checked. I'm using an old Microtek that works pretty well even for
moderate sized prints.

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DD - 23 Nov 2005 05:36 GMT
> greetings. i am a film - 2 1/4 photograper and i would like to post
> some of my photos on the web.
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>
> thank you! neutron
Look at the Konica Minolta Dimage Scan Dual IV. It will do what you want
and it only costs $230 at B&H. Very good value, but you will have to
clean up the dust and scratches yourself as it doesn't have digital ICE.

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neutron - 23 Nov 2005 08:25 GMT
sorrry folks, i screwed up the question (or maybe not) i thought you
can take the finished picture and scan that. i wasn't asking about film
scanners.but is that necessary? so i don't confuse you again" i want to
take the finished print put it onthe scanner (flatbed) and have it on
the web. thanks for your patience
Matt Clara - 23 Nov 2005 14:00 GMT
> sorrry folks, i screwed up the question (or maybe not) i thought you
> can take the finished picture and scan that. i wasn't asking about film
> scanners.but is that necessary? so i don't confuse you again" i want to
> take the finished print put it onthe scanner (flatbed) and have it on
> the web. thanks for your patience
Any half decent scanner is good enough to do that. I'd still look towards
the Epson line, and if you can swing the $400 for the 4990, you won't be
found wanting when you do want higher quality scans to edit in Photoshop and
send to print. Buy once, as they say.

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Mark² - 26 Nov 2005 20:06 GMT
>> sorrry folks, i screwed up the question (or maybe not) i thought you
>> can take the finished picture and scan that. i wasn't asking about
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> you won't be found wanting when you do want higher quality scans to
> edit in Photoshop and send to print. Buy once, as they say.
Agree.
I just bought the 4990 to scan a large pile of old photos.
It's doing a fine job, and offers decent control over the scanning process
with included drivers, accessed through Photoshop import.
Matt Clara - 26 Nov 2005 21:01 GMT
>>> sorrry folks, i screwed up the question (or maybe not) i thought you
>>> can take the finished picture and scan that. i wasn't asking about
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> It's doing a fine job, and offers decent control over the scanning process
> with included drivers, accessed through Photoshop import.
I've just developed my first large format negatives, and I'm torn between
buying a large format enlarger or the 4990--I want both, of course, and will
probably eventually have both, particularly with the drop in prices in dark
room equipment. The major consideration now is space, and I'm pretty sure
the 4990 won't hit the joyces in my basement like a large format enlarger
would!

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Alan Browne - 27 Nov 2005 15:52 GMT
> the 4990 won't hit the joyces in my basement like a large format enlarger
> would!
"joists"
That_Rich - 27 Nov 2005 16:39 GMT
>> the 4990 won't hit the joyces in my basement like a large format enlarger
>> would!
>
>"joists"
Matt may have a few women named Joyce living down there.
RP©
Dave - 25 Nov 2005 14:57 GMT
Well, you could buy a film scanner. I have the Minolta 5400. It is an
excellent scanner with good dynamic range but it is expensive and the
software has lots of quirks. It takes about 20 minutes to scan one slide at
high quality and it needs a lot of memory with a fast computer.
If you are planning on scanning just a few pics I would think about just
having a store do it for you. You should try a few stores to find out how
much it would cost. Typical cost is $1-5 per slide, maybe not the best
quality but adequate. If you plan to scan fewer than a hundred slides it
might be better to do a one-at-a-time job. You'll have more cash for other
things, and when you switch to digital you won't have a dinosaur on your
desktop.
Dave
> greetings. i am a film - 2 1/4 photograper and i would like to post
> some of my photos on the web.
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>
> thank you! neutron
Dave - 29 Nov 2005 00:06 GMT
Oops, I just noticed that you shoot 2 1/4 -- I don't think the minolta
5400 will handle that size of negs. You were thinking about scanning
prints. There are a lot of flatbed scanners that will do that job,
as long as you aren't going to try to print them again after digital
photomanipulation (too many steps, with error introduced
at each step). For just web posting, a print scanner should
work ok. However I would caution against flatbed scanners that
claim to be able to scan slides/negs. The ones I have looked at
do a hopeless job. I have the hp 5470c, which is a reasonable
scanner for prints etc. It does a terrible job at scanning negs.
Dave
> Well, you could buy a film scanner. I have the Minolta 5400. It is an
> excellent scanner with good dynamic range but it is expensive and the
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>> thank you! neutron