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Canon 24-105 now shipping again...

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Mark² - 22 Nov 2005 02:11 GMT
If you're interested in snapping up one fo these, you'd better act fast,
because they have been back-ordered for quite some time.

-Here's hoping they are now shipping only modified lenses (since some early
ones had a problem that Canon was fixing for free...).

I just ordered mine from B&H this morning.

Here's the link to the B&H page for the lens:
http://tinyurl.com/bvn3y

-Mark
Martin Riddle - 23 Nov 2005 23:36 GMT
Out of stock allready.

"Mark" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message news:K6vgf.5151$dv.3542@fed1read02...
> If you're interested in snapping up one fo these, you'd better act fast,
> because they have been back-ordered for quite some time.
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>
> -Mark
Mark² - 25 Nov 2005 10:36 GMT
> Out of stock allready.

Oops.

Anybody wanna buy a nearly new 24-70 2.8 L?
I have it..."In Stock!"
:)

>> If you're interested in snapping up one fo these, you'd better act
>> fast, because they have been back-ordered for quite some time.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>
>> -Mark
Annika1980 - 26 Nov 2005 13:13 GMT
>Anybody wanna buy a nearly new 24-70 2.8 L?
>I have it..."In Stock!"
>:)

Maybe you can give it to a worthy recipient for Christmas?
I'll send ya my address.
Skip M - 26 Nov 2005 17:09 GMT
> >Anybody wanna buy a nearly new 24-70 2.8 L?
>>I have it..."In Stock!"
>>:)
>
> Maybe you can give it to a worthy recipient for Christmas?
> I'll send ya my address.

It would cost less for Mark to ship one to me...in fact, I could just drive
over to his place and pick it up...  Heheheh, my daughter could use one,
since we already have two...

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Mark² - 26 Nov 2005 21:10 GMT
>> Anybody wanna buy a nearly new 24-70 2.8 L?
>> I have it..."In Stock!"
>> :)
>
> Maybe you can give it to a worthy recipient for Christmas?
> I'll send ya my address.

I'd be happy to give it to you free of charge.

Shipping & Handling is $1000.
Skip M - 26 Nov 2005 21:58 GMT
>>> Anybody wanna buy a nearly new 24-70 2.8 L?
>>> I have it..."In Stock!"
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>
> Shipping & Handling is $1000.

For that deal, I'll drive down!

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Mark² - 26 Nov 2005 22:03 GMT
>>>> Anybody wanna buy a nearly new 24-70 2.8 L?
>>>> I have it..."In Stock!"
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>>
> For that deal, I'll drive down!

In that case, there is a $950 pick-up fee.
:)
(Seriously, that's not a bad deal for basically a brand new lens in perfect
condition with warranty...only three months old)
Skip M - 27 Nov 2005 02:23 GMT
>>>>> Anybody wanna buy a nearly new 24-70 2.8 L?
>>>>> I have it..."In Stock!"
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> (Seriously, that's not a bad deal for basically a brand new lens in
> perfect condition with warranty...only three months old)

That's a very good deal.  You might want to put it up over on the
rec.photo.marketplace groups, and see if you get any nibbles.  I'd be
tempted if we didn't already have a couple, and have the prospect of getting
the 24-105, like you.

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Annika1980 - 27 Nov 2005 03:54 GMT
> Maybe you can give it to a worthy recipient for Christmas?
> I'll send ya my address.

>I'd be happy to give it to you free of charge.
>Shipping & Handling is $1000.

Cool.  I got a sister in CA.  She can pick it up for me.

I was gonna offer you my new 17-40L in trade (as if), but I've been
using that lens more and more lately, especially in tight situations
indoors.  I find myself using the incredible 28-135 IS USM less and
less these days.
After reading the posts in the other thread, the lens I'm currently
Jonesin' for is the 85mm f/1.2L.
Man, that's one sharp lens!  I'll bet it would be awesome for doing
stitched panoramas.
Mark² - 27 Nov 2005 04:02 GMT
>> Maybe you can give it to a worthy recipient for Christmas?
>> I'll send ya my address.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Man, that's one sharp lens!  I'll bet it would be awesome for doing
> stitched panoramas.

I don't need your 17-40 because I have the 16-35 2.8, which I am very happy
with.
As for the 28-135 (which I sold a while back)...this new 24-105 IS is about
the same size, but what a difference in build quality, IS effectiveness,
sharness (wow!), and of course...constant f4...which is plenty fast for me
in this mm range most of the time.
Alan Browne - 27 Nov 2005 15:41 GMT
> After reading the posts in the other thread, the lens I'm currently
> Jonesin' for is the 85mm f/1.2L.
> Man, that's one sharp lens!  I'll bet it would be awesome for doing
> stitched panoramas.

Is the f/1.2 sharper than the f/1.4 at the apertures you're likely to
use for panoramas?

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Annika1980 - 27 Nov 2005 15:51 GMT
>Is the f/1.2 sharper than the f/1.4 at the apertures you're likely to
>use for panoramas?

That's a good question.  Canon doesn't offer a 85mm f/1.4 lens so the
comparison would be made with the 85mm f/1.8 "non-L" lens.  I'm sure
the "L" version is much sharper, not to mention much heavier and more
expensive.

Of course, there are other benefits to having a f/1.2 lens.  That isn't
an aperture I'd use often, but I'll bet it provides a big bright image
in the viewfinder.
Anyway, it's now official.  I want the Canon 85mm f/1.2L lens!
And I always get what I want.  Well, sometimes.  OK, not much.
Alan Browne - 27 Nov 2005 17:20 GMT
>>Is the f/1.2 sharper than the f/1.4 at the apertures you're likely to
>>use for panoramas?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the "L" version is much sharper, not to mention much heavier and more
> expensive.

My mistake ... I assumed Canon had an 85 f/1.4 like everyone else.

Photodo appears to have repaired thir links.  As you can see, wide open,
the f/1.2 is not particularly sharp.  Quite crappy, actually for the $$$.

http://www.photodo.com/prod/lens/detail/CaEF85_12LUSM-108.shtml

At f/8, no suprise, it is quite sharp.

> Of course, there are other benefits to having a f/1.2 lens.  That isn't
> an aperture I'd use often, but I'll bet it provides a big bright image
> in the viewfinder.

From f/1.8 to f/1.4 is less than a stop.  From 1.4 to 1.2 about 1/3 a
stop... not that much difference.

But, if Canon don't have an f/1.4 then I would be tempted by the f/1.2
too.  I still haven't bought the 85 f/1.4 Maxxum that's been on my short
list for oh so long.

> Anyway, it's now official.  I want the Canon 85mm f/1.2L lens!
> And I always get what I want.  Well, sometimes.  OK, not much.

How's the old credit card situation?  Maxed out?

Cheers,
Alan

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Annika1980 - 27 Nov 2005 18:26 GMT
>How's the old credit card situation?

Which one?

>Maxed out?

Well duh .... otherwise, I'd already have the 85mm f/1.2L on my
1DsMKII.
deryck  lant - 28 Nov 2005 11:28 GMT
The message <AVlif.134$a95.150889@wagner.videotron.net>
from Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreeLunchVideotron.ca> contains these words:

> >>Is the f/1.2 sharper than the f/1.4 at the apertures you're likely to
> >>use for panoramas?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > the "L" version is much sharper, not to mention much heavier and more
> > expensive.

> My mistake ... I assumed Canon had an 85 f/1.4 like everyone else.

> Photodo appears to have repaired thir links.  As you can see, wide open,
> the f/1.2 is not particularly sharp.  Quite crappy, actually for the $$$.

> http://www.photodo.com/prod/lens/detail/CaEF85_12LUSM-108.shtml

> At f/8, no suprise, it is quite sharp.

> > Of course, there are other benefits to having a f/1.2 lens.  That isn't
> > an aperture I'd use often, but I'll bet it provides a big bright image
> > in the viewfinder.

>  From f/1.8 to f/1.4 is less than a stop.  From 1.4 to 1.2 about 1/3 a
> stop... not that much difference.

To nitpick. f1.2 is just over a stop larger than f1.8 but because of
extra light absorption exposure difference is calculated as one stop.

If like the movie industry, T stops were used, then exposure would be a
more precise calculation.

The glamorous f1.2 lenses are usually outperformed optically by their
humbler f1.8 brothers.
 
Deryck
no_name - 28 Nov 2005 14:17 GMT
deryck lant wrote:

> The message <AVlif.134$a95.150889@wagner.videotron.net>
> from Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreeLunchVideotron.ca> contains these words:
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>  
> Deryck

From first-hand experience, the f/1.4 is probably the best optically
for Pentax, superior to their f/1.2 ... and from what I've gathered from
others experience, the same holds true for Nikon and Canon.
Sander Vesik - 27 Nov 2005 18:42 GMT
> >Is the f/1.2 sharper than the f/1.4 at the apertures you're likely to
> >use for panoramas?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the "L" version is much sharper, not to mention much heavier and more
> expensive.

Well, you could compare to the Nikon 85mm f/1.4 ... and then you might
compare the 100 mm f/2 to the Nikon 105mm f/2* DC... ;-)

*) 105mm/f2.5 and f/1.8 are good lens too, esp with a d200

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Bart van der Wolf - 28 Nov 2005 23:25 GMT
SNIP
> Anyway, it's now official.  I want the Canon 85mm f/1.2L lens!

If stitched panos are a major consideration (and I completely
understand the Wow experience they trigger), you should (have) at
least consider(ed) the TS-E 90mm. I can understand that the shift and
tilt controls seem a bit daunting for someone without prior training
in using view-cameras, but this lens (and its 45mm cousin) will allow
to make superior stitched panos. Coupled with extention rings, it
(they) also do a great macro job with the added benefit of being able
to control the plane of focus. Besides, its a better lens (image
quality) than the 85mm f/1.2 .

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=156&m
odelid=7329


Bart
AnOvercomer 02 - 29 Nov 2005 00:42 GMT
>Canon doesn't offer a 85mm f/1.4 lens
> so the comparison would be made with
> the 85mm f/1.8 "non-L" lens.

Here's a comparison below. I have the 85 1.8 and I prefer it to the 85
1.2 because it has much faster AF, is smaller, lighter, and cost much
less and I bet the 1.2 is not that much sharper. A comparison between
the Nikon 1.4 can be found at http://www.wlcastleman.com also.

http://www.wlcastleman.com/equip/reviews/85mm/index.htm

Cody,

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