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Annika1980 - 20 Nov 2005 03:19 GMT
How many hamburgers can you eat in 8 minutes?
The World's Greatest Eater ate 67 today.

http://www.pbase.com/bret/krystal
William Graham - 20 Nov 2005 03:27 GMT
> How many hamburgers can you eat in 8 minutes?
> The World's Greatest Eater ate 67 today.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/krystal

I heard he also has the record for the highest cholesterol count.......
Bhup - 20 Nov 2005 08:12 GMT
only in the USA

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> How many hamburgers can you eat in 8 minutes?
> The World's Greatest Eater ate 67 today.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/krystal
DD - 21 Nov 2005 05:38 GMT
> only in the USA


You'd be amazed at what they get up to in the Far East. I've sen some
wild sh.t on television that was not American.

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Robert C. - 20 Nov 2005 18:35 GMT
> How many hamburgers can you eat in 8 minutes?
> The World's Greatest Eater ate 67 today.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/krystal

BUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRP!!!!!!!!!
Joseph Kewfi - 20 Nov 2005 20:11 GMT
> How many hamburgers can you eat in 8 minutes?
> The World's Greatest Eater ate 67 today.

Is he anywhere near the world record for biggest dookie by a human being, by
any chance ?

> How many hamburgers can you eat in 8 minutes?
> The World's Greatest Eater ate 67 today.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/bret/krystal
uw wayne - 20 Nov 2005 20:35 GMT
Soy or meat?
Mark² - 21 Nov 2005 00:54 GMT
> Soy or meat?

Dead cow matter.
That_Rich - 21 Nov 2005 02:09 GMT
>> Soy or meat?
>
>Dead cow matter.

If goD wanted us to be vegetarians hE wouldn't of made cows out of
beef.

RP©
PunishSpammers@NOSPAM.com - 21 Nov 2005 02:19 GMT
> >> Soy or meat?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> RP©

Is that what they mean by intelligent design? :)
Mark² - 21 Nov 2005 04:38 GMT
>>> Soy or meat?
>>
>> Dead cow matter.
>
> If goD wanted us to be vegetarians hE wouldn't of made cows out of
> beef.

Hear!
:)
Mark² - 21 Nov 2005 04:38 GMT
>>>> Soy or meat?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Hear!
> :)

I had a nice plate of cow just this evening.
Lovely meal it was, too.
uw wayne - 22 Nov 2005 01:55 GMT
Lowest # there, you just ate somebodys religious symbol! Have you no
shame? I never saw anybody pray for soy or protest it's consumption.
Repent blasphemer!!! P.S., Sams club has a terrific sale on choice
filet mignon this week, check it out.
Mark² - 22 Nov 2005 02:02 GMT
> Lowest # there, you just ate somebodys religious symbol! Have you no
> shame? I never saw anybody pray for soy or protest it's consumption.
> Repent blasphemer!!! P.S., Sams club has a terrific sale on choice
> filet mignon this week, check it out.

Ya, but I'm not Hindu...
Plus...for gods, -they sure flatulate a lot.
Heck...the environmental analysts have shown that cow gases have a HUGE
impact on the ozone layer.

New slogan:

Save the world...Kill a cow!
(and a fine meal they'll make as well)
Robert C. - 22 Nov 2005 03:01 GMT
> Soy or meat?

FYI : I read (somewhere) that McD's is only 15% meat, and 85% fillers, among
them soy!

~Robert C.
Mark² - 22 Nov 2005 03:21 GMT
>> Soy or meat?
>
> FYI : I read (somewhere) that McD's is only 15% meat, and 85%
> fillers, among them soy!
>
> ~Robert C.

Ever eat a "Big Mac"??

-It's actually a BREAD SALAD sandwhich...with a wee bit of meaty substance
spread on for a touch of "beefy flavoring."

...You think I'm kidding??
Not really...no.
:)
Robert C. - 22 Nov 2005 03:59 GMT
>>> Soy or meat?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Not really...no.
> :)

I believe you. Last time I was at McD's with the family, four meals cost us
just over $30 (Canadian) and the BIG MAC wasn't that big any more. The
patties were just shy of 1/8" thick. (Even my daughter, at 13, is starting
to to notice the economics of "downsizing".) I remember going to McD's and
ordering the 1/4-pounder and getting 1/4-pound of hamburger (cooked
weight!). Maybe it's for the better? Less meat... Less fat? Wait! More
Salad? More "Special Sauce" (Mayonaise???) Who Knows?

~Robert C.
uw wayne - 22 Nov 2005 03:44 GMT
They don't taste bad as is, but if the soy % is true it sure would make
them healthier, but I doubt they are. It would be false advertising to
portray them as beef if they aren't.
Robert C. - 22 Nov 2005 04:28 GMT
> They don't taste bad as is, but if the soy % is true it sure would make
> them healthier, but I doubt they are. It would be false advertising to
> portray them as beef if they aren't.

Ah! But look at how they advertise; they are clever: "100% REAL BEEF"

This is true! Of the % that is beef, this they do not tell you.

Many years ago, McD's Canada advertised that their hamburgers were made with
"100% Canadian Beef." They were correct: The company which supplied them
with the beef was called "Canadian Beef", so the were correct to advertise
that they were using 100% "Canadian Beef."

They are very clever at their advertising. They will sponsor a movie,
sometimes their product will appear in the movie, or they will have the
rights to special pictures on their cups or fry boxes. One of their schemes
is the "Kids-Meal" and the "Toys". It is related to a movie and the kids
will beg their parents to get the set, ususally 4 or 5 products... 4 or 5
family meals!

You have to remember, McD's is perhaps #1 when it comes to figuring out how
to market a product and make the fastest "BUCK". It is also done at the
resaurant level: Have you seen how a hamburger is made? It is cooked from
frozen on a pressure-double-sided grill, timed exactly, with the grill
popping open at exactly the right time, the kitchen staff pour (with these
"cauking-gun"-type dispensers) exactly the same amount of condiments into
every bun, the exact number of pickles go into every burger (2). It takes
exacly X seconds to prepare each burger. Every item in a McD's restaurant is
designed to be timed so that nothing is wasted. That's efficiency!

~Robert C.
William Graham - 22 Nov 2005 04:48 GMT
>> They don't taste bad as is, but if the soy % is true it sure would make
>> them healthier, but I doubt they are. It would be false advertising to
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>onion rings and anything people threw at him for the first year of his
>life.........
Mark² - 22 Nov 2005 04:56 GMT
>> They don't taste bad as is, but if the soy % is true it sure would
>> make them healthier, but I doubt they are. It would be false
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> be timed so that nothing is wasted. That's efficiency!
> ~Robert C.

Not only that, but their portions of meat are so small...that they create
very little "human WASTE" too!
:)
Unfortunately, they DO create excessive human WAIST.
:(
DD - 22 Nov 2005 05:49 GMT
> You have to remember, McD's is perhaps #1 when it comes to figuring out how
> to market a product and make the fastest "BUCK".

I seem to recall doing a McDonald's case study at marketing college and
the bulk of their revenue was derived not from burger sales, but believe
it or not, property rentals.

When MD enters an area they buy up all the surrounding real estate and
then lease it out to other businesses who want to be nearby a McDonalds.
Might explain why they have not been very successful in certain parts of
SA. When they entered the market here they opened up outlets all over
the place. I think we had about 7 of them in Durban at one point. There
are now only two remaining.

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Annika1980 - 22 Nov 2005 20:24 GMT
>When MD enters an area they buy up all the surrounding real estate and
>then lease it out to other businesses who want to be nearby a McDonalds.

Similar to what Walmart does today.
They've been known to flood the market with Walmart stores, and then
close one or two after the competition dries up.
Mark² - 23 Nov 2005 02:30 GMT
>> When MD enters an area they buy up all the surrounding real estate
>> and then lease it out to other businesses who want to be nearby a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> They've been known to flood the market with Walmart stores, and then
> close one or two after the competition dries up.

I've never heard of that.
Do you have documentation/evidence of this?
I've never seen ANY WalMart that closed like that.
For that matter, I've never seen ANY Wal Marts be closed at all.
More likely...they found the market didn't support that many stores...or
that they simply miscalculated the willingness of people to travel a bit
farther to a more convenient location...or they simply chose a poor location
to begin with.

I don't have a problem with people bashing Wal Mart, but in that instance, I
suspect there are MANY other legitimate explanations.  They would have to
sell a GO-Zillion items to pay for the huge lost revenue of opening a store
simply for "planned failure."  Besides...it's not like they would tear down
the building...it would like be sold to another retailer (competition).
Annika1980 - 23 Nov 2005 15:12 GMT
>> Similar to what Walmart does today.
>> They've been known to flood the market with Walmart stores, and then
>> close one or two after the competition dries up.

>I've never heard of that.
>Do you have documentation/evidence of this?

No, I made it all up.

>I've never seen ANY WalMart that closed like that.
>For that matter, I've never seen ANY Wal Marts be closed at all.

You must not get out much.  Our closest Walmart, for example, was the
typical Walmart, surrounded by other businesses in the big Walmart
shopping center.  That area was largely empty before the Walmart store
arrived. Now it's sprawl. There was once a McDonald's in the parking
lot outside the Walmart, but later it was forced to move inside the
store itself.
Then they decided to build a newer, bigger, store (and Walmart Shopping
Center) on the same street less than a mile from the original store.
The businesses surrounding the original Walmart were forced to either
go with them (and pay higher rent, of course) or stay there in a dead
shopping area which now has little or no business.  Some of them, like
the Winn-Dixie supermarket had to close up since the new Walmart would
now be selling groceries as well.

I shop at Walmart for the convenience.  I can go at 2:00 AM if I need
something and pick up a few groceries while I'm there.  I don't think
the prices are much different than anywhere else.  However, their
little portrait studios have killed the local photographers who can't
come close to matching their prices.  Walmart can take a loss on small
stuff like that just to get people into the store.

Economically, Walmart wields a very big stick.
Mark² - 23 Nov 2005 16:54 GMT
>>> Similar to what Walmart does today.
>>> They've been known to flood the market with Walmart stores, and then
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Economically, Walmart wields a very big stick.

Yes.  Which is why I see people's reason for concern.
I just doubt they intentionally open stores they know they'll shut down in
short order...
William Graham - 23 Nov 2005 21:36 GMT
>>> Similar to what Walmart does today.
>>> They've been known to flood the market with Walmart stores, and then
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Economically, Walmart wields a very big stick.

I heard Roger Ebert say, (on the J. Leno show, I think) that he wouldn't
deal with Wal Mart, because they buy a lot of their stuff from China and
other foreign places where the wages are very low. This is easy for people
like Ebert to say.....With the money he makes, he could afford to buy his
groceries at Tiffanies.....But if you are trying to raise a family on a
$2500 a month income, you will be buying a lot of your stuff at Wal Mart and
similar places. Wal Mart fills a need. Here in Salem, a town of about
125,000 population, we have Three Wal Marts, and two of them are the "super"
WM's that sell groceries.......
DD - 23 Nov 2005 05:12 GMT
> >When MD enters an area they buy up all the surrounding real estate and
> >then lease it out to other businesses who want to be nearby a McDonalds.
>
> Similar to what Walmart does today.
> They've been known to flood the market with Walmart stores, and then
> close one or two after the competition dries up.

Unfortunately that strategy didn't work for MacDonalds here. They had
some serious competition from existing fast food burget outlets like
Wimpy and Steers, who provide a considerably better product than
MacDonalds do.

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no_name - 23 Nov 2005 22:25 GMT
>>>When MD enters an area they buy up all the surrounding real estate and
>>>then lease it out to other businesses who want to be nearby a McDonalds.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Wimpy and Steers, who provide a considerably better product than
> MacDonalds do.

Well, with the exception of the Frankfurt Airport location, you can walk
into any McDonalds in the world and get a reasonably drinkable cup of
coffee.
William Graham - 23 Nov 2005 22:46 GMT
>>>>When MD enters an area they buy up all the surrounding real estate and
>>>>then lease it out to other businesses who want to be nearby a McDonalds.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> into any McDonalds in the world and get a reasonably drinkable cup of
> coffee.

And it's (or at least used to be) nice and hot!
Mark² - 25 Nov 2005 10:39 GMT
>>>>> When MD enters an area they buy up all the surrounding real
>>>>> estate and then lease it out to other businesses who want to be
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> And it's (or at least used to be) nice and hot!

...And makes up a nice hot plate of steaming human flesh in a jiffy...
-Easiest road to riches out there!
Robert C. - 24 Nov 2005 03:17 GMT
> Well, with the exception of the Frankfurt Airport location, you can walk
> into any McDonalds in the world and get a reasonably drinkable cup of
> coffee.

You call that COFFEE?????? Not in McDonalds in Canada at least. You want
good coffee, try Tim Horton's.
Bob Hickey - 24 Nov 2005 14:46 GMT
> You call that COFFEE?????? Not in McDonalds in Canada at least. You want
> good coffee, try Tim Horton's.
>
>                Try anyplace. McDonalds has the worlds worst coffee.  Burnt
to death. Krispy Creme ain't bad.     Bob Hickey
no_name - 24 Nov 2005 15:19 GMT
>>Well, with the exception of the Frankfurt Airport location, you can walk
>>into any McDonalds in the world and get a reasonably drinkable cup of
>>coffee.
>
> You call that COFFEE?????? Not in McDonalds in Canada at least. You want
> good coffee, try Tim Horton's.

Yes, I call that coffee. You can drink it as is. No need to add a whole
lot of crap to make some coffee like drink. I'm looking for coffee I can
drink with nothing in it but coffee.

They use that same drip coffee maker pretty much world wide.  I'm
looking for consistency, i.e. "reasonably drinkable".

Everybody's definition of "good" would be different. Some might even
consider the coffee at the Frankfurt Airport McDonalds good (too bitter,
and harsh).
RobGN - 25 Nov 2005 14:02 GMT
> Yes, I call that coffee. You can drink it as is. No need to add a whole
> lot of crap to make some coffee like drink. I'm looking for coffee I can
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> consider the coffee at the Frankfurt Airport McDonalds good (too bitter,
> and harsh).

Was it not McDonald's that was sued because someone spilled their
coffee and burned themselves due to their coffee being too hot?
William Graham - 25 Nov 2005 22:35 GMT
>> Yes, I call that coffee. You can drink it as is. No need to add a whole
>> lot of crap to make some coffee like drink. I'm looking for coffee I can
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Was it not McDonald's that was sued because someone spilled their
> coffee and burned themselves due to their coffee being too hot?

Yes, Only it wasn't because the coffee was, "too hot". It was because of
their own stupidity. (IMO) However, society saw fit to reward that stupidity
by awarding them lots of money.........
Annika1980 - 26 Nov 2005 20:43 GMT
>Yes, Only it wasn't because the coffee was, "too hot". It was because of
>their own stupidity. (IMO) However, society saw fit to reward that stupidity
>by awarding them lots of money.........

I believe that it was a jury that awarded them the money, not society.
And if the coffee is so hot that it sears the flesh, then maybe it
wasn't such a bad decision.
That_Rich - 26 Nov 2005 21:23 GMT
>>Yes, Only it wasn't because the coffee was, "too hot". It was because of
>>their own stupidity. (IMO) However, society saw fit to reward that stupidity
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>And if the coffee is so hot that it sears the flesh, then maybe it
>wasn't such a bad decision.

"A jury consists of twelve persons chosen to decide who has the better
lawyer."

          - Robert Frost -
Annika1980 - 27 Nov 2005 01:35 GMT
>"A jury consists of twelve persons chosen to decide who has the better
>lawyer."

I had a nice visit this afternoon with my friend, Mr. C., who has been
practicing law for 71 years now.
(With all that practice you'd think he'd be good at it by now.)  He
still goes to the office every work day. He doesn't walk so good
anymore without his cane, but his mind is still sharp as a tack,
recalling incidents that happened back in the 1920's as if they
happened yesterday.  Mr. C. lamented the way the legal profession has
evolved.  Instead of trying to help people, he said the first thing a
lawyer does now is go over his rate schedule.  "Who can we bill this
hour to?"  I mentioned that the medical profession seems to have
followed down the same path.
Greed rules.
Mark² - 27 Nov 2005 02:13 GMT
>> "A jury consists of twelve persons chosen to decide who has the
>> better lawyer."
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> followed down the same path.
> Greed rules.

Greed?
The other idea that seems to "rule" is that doctors and lawyers should, for
some reason, work for free...
Annika1980 - 27 Nov 2005 03:41 GMT
>Greed?
>The other idea that seems to "rule" is that doctors and lawyers should, for
>some reason, work for free...

People used to want to be doctors, lawyers, and teachers so that they
could help other people.  Nowadays, they want to be doctors and lawyers
cause that's where the big bucks are made.  As you know, the pay scale
for teachers hasn't kept up.

It's like the guy who called his plumber to unclog a drain.  The
plumber was there only 5 minutes and billed the guy $100.  The guy
says, "$100 for 5 minutes?  Man, I'm a doctor and I don't even make
that kind of money!"
The plumber answered, "Yeah, and when I was a doctor I didn't make that
kind of money either."
William Graham - 27 Nov 2005 04:02 GMT
> >Greed?
>>The other idea that seems to "rule" is that doctors and lawyers should,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> The plumber answered, "Yeah, and when I was a doctor I didn't make that
> kind of money either."

You can understand the doctor's salary. There is a huge dirth of medical
schools.....Huge stainless steel buildings that cost hundreds of millions of
dollars to build can only graduate like 100 doctors a year.....but the
lawyers I don't understand. Anyone can start a law school....There must be a
zillion of them in the US alone. All you need is a library and a room with
some desks and lots of pencils........Lawyers should be starving to
death.........
Mark² - 27 Nov 2005 04:07 GMT
>> Greed?
>> The other idea that seems to "rule" is that doctors and lawyers
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> The plumber answered, "Yeah, and when I was a doctor I didn't make
> that kind of money either."

My college roommate and long-time friend is a doctor now...but he is far
from wealthy.
In fact, he's still paying down his $750K medical school debt.
Add to this that he's only just now getting to make any money at all after
10+ years of school/training.
Up until recently, it's been money OUT...rather than IN for him.

Doctors work very hard to FINALLY make their money, and it's getting tougher
and tougher for them to be the "automatic money machine" that the title
"doctor" used to carry with it.
That_Rich - 27 Nov 2005 04:32 GMT
>>> Greed?
>>> The other idea that seems to "rule" is that doctors and lawyers
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>and tougher for them to be the "automatic money machine" that the title
>"doctor" used to carry with it.

A pal graduated Marquette last year as a ophthalmologist... or some
kind of eye doctor(?)
He cannot believe how much money he's making one year out!
His biggest concern is which Benz to buy.

RP©
Mark² - 27 Nov 2005 04:33 GMT
>>>> Greed?
>>>> The other idea that seems to "rule" is that doctors and lawyers
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> He cannot believe how much money he's making one year out!
> His biggest concern is which Benz to buy.

Good for him.
I wish I could afford those things...but then I didn't go to 10 years of
extra school/training.
no_name - 28 Nov 2005 02:10 GMT
>>Yes, I call that coffee. You can drink it as is. No need to add a whole
>>lot of crap to make some coffee like drink. I'm looking for coffee I can
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Was it not McDonald's that was sued because someone spilled their
> coffee and burned themselves due to their coffee being too hot?

Yes, and it's already been argued out here. AFAIK, no one's mind was
changed.
Andrew Price - 25 Nov 2005 22:58 GMT
[coffee]

>Everybody's definition of "good" would be different.

Absolutely - asking for a "standard" coffee in France, Germany, Italy
and the UK would result in four quite different beverages.
William Graham - 25 Nov 2005 23:14 GMT
> [coffee]
>
>>Everybody's definition of "good" would be different.
>
> Absolutely - asking for a "standard" coffee in France, Germany, Italy
> and the UK would result in four quite different beverages.

Good coffee, to me, is made by pouring boiling hot water through freshly
ground beans and a filter, into a pot only once. the character of the
resulting coffee depends on the beans. - I personally like dark French
roasted beans.
   Over my lifetime, There have been several types of coffeemakers that
were popular. The worst, (IMO) was the "percolator", which continuously
boiled the coffee and repeatedly cycled it through the grounds until it had
achieved a burned taste that you wouldn't believe.
   I never minded the "Silex" style makers of the 40's. They boiled the
water, and forced it up into an upper chamber that contained the grounds,
and then, when the fire was turned off, "sucked" it back down through a
filter into the lower chamber again. If one then didn't reheat it, it turned
out to be pretty good coffee.
   McDonalds coffee could be quite good, because the Bunn-style
coffeemakers they use work just like drip style pots. They simply pour
boiling hot water through grounds only once. The problem is the
grounds.....You can use cheap grounds, or good quality freshly ground coffee
beans. I doubt if very many McDonalds places use good quality freshly ground
beans. But there is nothing inherently wrong with the Bunn coffeemakers. One
could make very high quality coffee with them, if one went to the
trouble.......
William Graham - 22 Nov 2005 04:32 GMT
> They don't taste bad as is, but if the soy % is true it sure would make
> them healthier, but I doubt they are. It would be false advertising to
> portray them as beef if they aren't.

Yes. - I was talking about the meat. Not the whole burger.
William Graham - 22 Nov 2005 04:29 GMT
>> Soy or meat?
>
> FYI : I read (somewhere) that McD's is only 15% meat, and 85% fillers,
> among them soy!
>
> ~Robert C.

I don't think so. It's more like 85% beef, 10% fat, and selected additives
for the other 5%......See here:
   http://www.ag.auburn.edu/aaes/webpress/1992/lowfat.htm
Draco - 21 Nov 2005 17:03 GMT
Isn't he the same guy who won the HotDog and Matza ball eating
contests?? He seems to have "bulked" up a bit.hehe

Draco

Getting even isn't good enough.
Annika1980 - 21 Nov 2005 17:14 GMT
>Isn't he the same guy who won the HotDog and Matza ball eating
>contests?? He seems to have "bulked" up a bit.hehe

Kobayashi, aka "The Tsunami,' has won the Nathan's 4th of July hot dog
eating contest 5 years in a row.  And yes, he's a workout freak and is
now up to a buff 170 pounds.
Still got a ways to go to catch me, though.
 
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