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broken pentax lens
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curleyq - 27 Oct 2005 23:10 GMT caveat-i know nothing about cameras...
my husband has a pentax 1.4 lens from 1970s or so that was dropped. prior to this it was in perfect condition. the slide bar that goes between auto and manual is bent and does not move. he does not think it can be repaired, but i was hoping it could be.
any suggestions? do you think it could be repaired? any repair shop i should try?
thanks.
curleyq - 27 Oct 2005 23:16 GMT also, any good repair shops to try in phoenix? thanks. curleyQ
no_name - 28 Oct 2005 02:30 GMT > also, any good repair shops to try in phoenix? thanks. curleyQ It's not economically repairable. If you need the lens, I'd check with KEH for a replacement. They don't have a 1.4 A lens right now, but they do have the 1.7.
Ace - 28 Oct 2005 07:11 GMT Take it to Tempe Camera Repair. They are on University. They are not cheap but they will be honest. It will probably be cheaper to get another than repair. Bob AZ
uw wayne - 28 Oct 2005 00:24 GMT Your husband had a 1.4 lens! I also have a lens collection of f1.4 , really quality glass, produce special images. If I dropped the lens I would also seek it's repair.Can't recommend any repair shops to you. If my wife dropped one of those, she would have to search for a new husband.
Jenny_Smith - 30 Oct 2005 04:02 GMT ...
> If my wife dropped one of those, she would have to search for a new > husband. You cruel person, you!
J.
Matt Clara - 28 Oct 2005 00:24 GMT If it's a 50mm lens, you're just as well off getting him a new, used one. If it's screwmount (threads on the end that mounts into the camera allowing it to screw in just like a mayonaise jar screwing into its cap), check here: http://tinyurl.com/anw5b if it's a bayonet mount (typically the mount has a series of flanges around the edge that fit into matching slots on the camera, and then twisting and locking into place), check here: http://tinyurl.com/9pw3c
In either case you can get him one in excellent condition (which will look like new if you buy from KEH) for a little over $100--a repair would likely cost you that much anyway, though I suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask, in which case, KEH has an online repair estimate, though for broken (dropped) equipment, the rule is they can't really say how much it will cost until they've opened it up and had a look.
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> caveat-i know nothing about cameras... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > thanks. Warren B. Hapke - 28 Oct 2005 00:56 GMT : If it's a 50mm lens, you're just as well off getting him a new, used one. : If it's screwmount (threads on the end that mounts into the camera allowing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : camera, and then twisting and locking into place), check here: : http://tinyurl.com/9pw3c The original posting mentioned that the "slide bar that goes between auto and manual" was jammed. In that case, is definitely a screw mount Pentax lens; the K-mount lenses do not have (or need) that feature.
For the original poster: Matt's suggestion to go to KEH is a good one, but they don't have too many f1.4 Pentax screwmount lenses right now. The only one listed is a 50mm f1.4 Super Takumar in bargain condition for $25. A KEH bargain condition lens is often in excellent shape optically, and KEH will accept returns with no questions asked, so this might be worth ordering. If your husband can accept an f2 lens, KEH has a 55mm f2 SMC Takumar in excellent condition for $33. I have this lens and it is an excellent performer. (It also comes in a f1.8 version, which is optically identical, but KEH does not have one in stock.) In general, SMC Takumar lenses are more desireable than the Super Takumar's, but both will perform well.
Warren B. Hapke wbhapke@prairienet.org
: In either case you can get him one in excellent condition (which will look : like new if you buy from KEH) for a little over $100--a repair would likely : cost you that much anyway, though I suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask, in : which case, KEH has an online repair estimate, though for broken (dropped) : equipment, the rule is they can't really say how much it will cost until : they've opened it up and had a look.
: > caveat-i know nothing about cameras... : > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] : > : > thanks. curleyq - 28 Oct 2005 01:27 GMT thanks for the input so far. i guess it would be helpful to know exactly what kind of lens it is. it says super-takumar 1:1.4/50 3239590 asahi opt. co. lens made in japan. curleyQ
> : If it's a 50mm lens, you're just as well off getting him a new, used one. > : If it's screwmount (threads on the end that mounts into the camera allowing [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > : > > : > thanks. Jeremy - 28 Oct 2005 02:11 GMT > caveat-i know nothing about cameras... > > my husband has a pentax 1.4 lens from 1970s or so that was dropped. > prior to this it was in perfect condition. the slide bar that goes > between auto and manual is bent and does not move. DO NOT FORCE IT. IT MAY NOT BE BROKEN AT ALL.
The "Auto/Manual" switch moves ONLY if the lens is mounted on the camera. It was designed to afford backward compatibility for older model Pentax cameras that existed prior to the introduction of the Spotmatic.
If you look carefully at the lens mount, you will see a tiny pin--so small that you might miss it if you are not careful. That pin is compressed when the lens is screwed into a pre-Spotmatic camera, allowing you to move it to the "Manual" position. If you have a Spotmatic or ES camera body, the switch should be left in the auto position and not moved. You do NOT require the "Manual" setting on Spotmatic or ES model cameras.
If you have the rear lens cap, screw it on, and it will compress the pin. Then you can gently try to move the Auto/Manual lever. If you can get it into the Auto position, just leave it there.
REMEMBER, THE LEVER REMAINS LOCKED WHEN THE LENS IS NOT MOUNTED TO A CAMERA, OR WHEN THE REAR LENS CAP IS NOT SCREWED ON.
Let us know if this works. And tell us what camera model you are using. Whatever you do, never force this lever. Many uninformed people have broken it, trying to get it to move, when all they had to do was to first screw on the rear lens cap to compress that tiny locking pin.
curleyq - 28 Oct 2005 02:48 GMT thanks for the help. i tried this, but the switch is bent about 25 degrees toward the next level up and is about 1/2 between the manual and auto switch. i am not sure about the camera model--it is a new digital pentax (purchased 2005), but we are using the lens from an old pentax (circa 1970) that we still have which also works great.
Jeremy - 28 Oct 2005 15:11 GMT > thanks for the help. i tried this, but the switch is bent about 25 > degrees toward the next level up and is about 1/2 between the manual > and auto switch. i am not sure about the camera model--it is a new > digital pentax (purchased 2005), but we are using the lens from an old > pentax (circa 1970) that we still have which also works great. You need to be more specific. WHAT "circa 1970" Pentax model do you have? And DOES THE LENS WORK WHEN MOUNTED ON THAT CAMERA?
If the lever is bent, the lens elements may also have been jostled out of alignment, and the lens may not perform up to spec. I would just buy another.
They are regularly offered on eBay, at a price of around $100. Given their reputation for quality, it is a bargain. See the link below:
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-02-11-24.shtml
no_name - 28 Oct 2005 20:08 GMT > thanks for the help. i tried this, but the switch is bent about 25 > degrees toward the next level up and is about 1/2 between the manual > and auto switch. i am not sure about the camera model--it is a new > digital pentax (purchased 2005), but we are using the lens from an old > pentax (circa 1970) that we still have which also works great. Is this the lens you mean?
http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/product/smcpfa50f1_lg.jpg
Your posts are kind of confusing to this point. It's unclear what lens you're describing. Look at the front of the lens and tell us what it says there.
Example: (I'm looking at one of my lenses) and around the front bezel it says SMC PENTAX-FAJ 1:4(22)-5.6(32) 18-35mm -AL- *1*
When exactly was the lens purchased, and what camera by model type/name/number, etc, did it come with?
And what circa 1970 camera, again by model type/name/number are you trying to use it with?
Again as an example: "Purchased for my *ist-D in 2004 and I'm also using it with a PZ-1P"
*1* http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/product/smcpfaj1835_lg.jpg
William Graham - 28 Oct 2005 03:25 GMT > caveat-i know nothing about cameras... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > thanks. Almost anything can be repaired.....The question is, will the cost of repairing it make it worth while, or would you be better off buying a new lens?
Cheesehead - 28 Oct 2005 15:49 GMT Since it has that auto/manual slide it's thus a screw mount lens. Depending on the version ( Super Takumar, SMC Takumar, Super-Multi-Coated Takumar ) it can be replaced for between $30 and $60 on eBay or whereever you can find one for sale. They're excellent lenses but because of age they're not in high demand. So the price is right. And service work can't be had this cheaply. (The Super-Multi-Coated Takumar is the lens of choice here.)
Collin (generally satisfied Pentax user since 1980) Brendemuehl KC8TKA
Jeremy - 28 Oct 2005 20:52 GMT > Since it has that auto/manual slide it's thus a screw mount lens. > Depending on the version [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Collin (generally satisfied Pentax user since 1980) Brendemuehl > KC8TKA If she mounts an SMC Takumar lens on a Spotmatic or ES body, the lens' Auto/Manual switch will be able to go into the Automatic position, but it will not be able to be switched back into the Manual setting. If she is mounting the lens on a Pentax screwmount body that presided the Spotmatic, the switch will be able to be put into the Manual position.
People that are unfamiliar with this fact may believe that the switch is defective when it is off-camera, or is mounted on a Spotmatic or ES body, and they mat attempt to force it, resulting in damage to the lens.
If she is using the lens on a Spotmatic or ES camera, and if the switch can be put in the Automatic position, the lens can continue to be used without compromise. That switch was put there for the benefit of buyers that wanted to mount it on older Pentax bodies. Spotmatic and ES users do not need to worry about it at all.
We need to know which camera bodies she is using the lens with in order to determine if it is functioning properly. That is why I asked the question.
Frankly, the lens is so cheap now on the used market, that she ought to just get another one, and be done with it.
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