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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / October 2005Steve Kramer the BRAGGART
Most of the posters on this group probably know by now that Steve Kramer is a spammer, always on the lookout to promote himself and his business. And you probably know that being a conceited little man with an *enormous* ego, he also loves to blow his own trumpet! Anyway, here he is in action: ************************************************************************* http://www.digicamsoft.com/9A1FC1731F624D1F9DBCA42B781FF8A60A6594E11.html > How many people make a living in this NG from photography? What do you > specialise in? Travel, nature, and travel related advertising photography (hotel and resort brochures) for national and international magazines and calendars. http://www.photoenvisions.com/ I also write a monthly magazine column about photography, http://www.gmorning.info/photo_vision.htm and run classes to teach our tourists how to use the other three buttons on their cameras with ond-day photo classes and photo safaris. http://www.photoenvisions.com/Advert.htm Of course this last part will only work well for you if you live in a tourist rich location. Fortunately, northern Thailand is a photographer's paradise, and I live at the last stop of the rail line running north. Beyond this there be dragons! Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography Chiang Mai, Thailand http://www.photoenvisions.com -- "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust ************************************************************************* **I just loved that little ditty, tagged onto the end of his sales pitch: "Fortunately, northern Thailand is a photographer's paradise, and I live at the last stop of the rail line running north. Beyond this there be dragons!" Beyond this there be dragons????? ROFL!!!!!! Cheesy or what??? Almost beats his "I know where the elephants lay down..." and "Through the forests, I wander..." skits! And a follow up from the same group: ************************************************************************* Bill Hilton wrote: > >Peter writes ... > > > >How many people make a living in this NG from photography? > > Not many, I'd wager. > > >I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in nature > >or the like to make a living without living on tin food. > > "John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography" is a good book that will > give you a feel for the 'business' side of it. Most of the really > prosperous nature photographers I know personally are making much of > their money either from guiding tours and teaching classes or > workshops, or writing/selling books or occasionally from stock sales. > A handful make most of their money from selling prints, typically if > they own one or more galleries. One guy told me he made less than 5% > of his income from selling images to magazines, for example, but finds > that leading photo tours to places he would visit on his own anyway is > wildly profitable. I'll second that. Even selling a dozen photos (to mags and businesses) per month on average, and having at least one magazine cover per month, my money is still coming from teaching and photo safaris. Steve Kramer "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography Chiang Mai, Thailand http://www.photoenvisions.com -- "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing with new eyes." - Marcel Proust ************************************************************************* **"...my money is still coming from teaching and photo safaris." Actually Steve's money comes from his wife Nobuko, who supports both of them. Truth is, if it wasn't for Nobuko and her pension and rental income from the apartment that she owns in Osaka, Steve would really be in sh.t creek! Right Steve? :-) -- "In this most recent case, Taken Gthepiss also thinks that nothing is going to happen. It probably wont for at least a year, till all the loopholes are filled, then he goes inside too." - Steve 'Kombat' Kramer, Jun 8 2004. Actually, your handle makes it quite clear that you're the trolling piece of junk here, and not Steve Kramer. > Most of the posters on this group probably know by now that Steve Kramer is > a spammer, always on the lookout to promote himself and his business. And > you probably know that being a conceited little man with an *enormous* ego, > he also loves to blow his own trumpet! NEWSGROUP "SPAM" - No Such Thing. Newsgroups are public. What is "SPAM"? Unsolicited messages? Then everyone that post to a newsgroups is "spamming" unless they are responding to a direct question. What is Off Topic? Anything that isn't relevant to the group description? Then 99% of newsgroup posters are spammers. You've never posted an off topic comment? You can't lie. It's archived in Google. Links to websites are spam? Then what are those links in your signature? OH....it's ok to "SPAM" a little bit. As a matter of fact its ok to "SPAM" a lot because you include those links in your signature everytime you post. If you want a MODERATED group, quit whining and go join one or create one yourself. [.....] > ... always on the lookout to promote himself and his business. [.....] If you look at most people's signatures you will see a link to a website promoting their photography or their business. I see no problem with this. So what's your point? ~Robert C. 'BRAGGART'. Sorry, international talk like a pirate day was last month. YARRR MATEY... seriously though, and dont get me wrong hear I'm willing to hear you out, why don't you like this Steve Kramer fellow... > 'BRAGGART'. Sorry, international talk like a pirate day was last month. "no longer the bread" <dawley2@verizon.net> wrote in message > YARRR MATEY... seriously though, and dont get me wrong hear I'm willing to > hear you out, why don't you like this Steve Kramer fellow... **What makes you think that I don't like him? I like him! He might be an arrogant conceited and pompous little man, but I like him! Why? Because he's my hobby! I like 'playing' with him. It amuses me. I like pulling his chain and getting him to dance for me. ;-) > "Peter Chant" <pete@petezilla.co.uk> wrote in message >> >> 'BRAGGART'. Sorry, international talk like a pirate day was last month. > "no longer the bread" <dawley2@verizon.net> wrote in message >> YARRR MATEY... seriously though, and dont get me wrong hear I'm [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Because he's my hobby! I like 'playing' with him. It amuses me. I > like pulling his chain and getting him to dance for me. ;-) You just danced into my killfile. "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message >> "no longer the bread" <dawley2@verizon.net> wrote in message >>> YARRR MATEY... seriously though, and dont get me wrong hear I'm [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You just danced into my killfile. **I'm honoured!!! *blush* Ya ever stop to think how that makes you look like a waste of human flesh? "Matt Clara" <mattclara@gmail.com> wrote in message > Ya ever stop to think how that makes you look like a waste of human > flesh? **Your support for Kombat is admirable. Foolish, but admirable. He'll *probably* let you kiss his a.s, by way of a 'thank-you'. |
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