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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / June 2005Film when entering China
I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong Kong, or only to the rest of China? Does this apply to film exposed in Hong Kong when entering the rest of Chibna? Are there any other things I should I know about when travelling from Hong Kong to China? Thanks Mike > Are there any other things I should I know about when travelling from > Hong Kong to China? Leave behind any thoughts of Freedom or Justice at the boarding gate. Do you guys live in another planet? There is no problem travelling into and out from China with any personal photography equipment, film or media. There may be the usual customs queries (like anywhere else) if you are travelling with a ton of professional gear. >> Are there any other things I should I know about when travelling from >> Hong Kong to China? > > Leave behind any thoughts of Freedom or Justice at the boarding gate. > I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a > phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks > Mike What website was this? Ccan you post a url? It sounds wrong to me, and certainly it doesn't apply to Hong Kong. I have entered Hong Kong about five times in the last 12 years, with a professional camera outfit over my shoulder, with no questions whatsoever, and there was partly used film in the camera. What about if you have partly used film in your camera, or images on CF cards? My daughter, who is an associate professor at Hong Kong University, and has lived in HK for 14 years, is home here for a few days, is out right now, but I will ask her opinion and post again later. Colin >> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It sounds wrong to me, and certainly it doesn't apply to Hong Kong. Hong Kong is an entirely different experience than mainland China. It's been run as basically a capitalist state for many years...with FAR less restriction. > >> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a > >> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > It's been run as basically a capitalist state for many years...with FAR less > restriction. Of course HK is freer than Mainland China. But the OP specifically asked about HK, hence my answer. Colin. >> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Colin Sounds crazy to me....I can't imagine why any country would care if you brought exposed film inside it's borders....What possible harm could result from that? >>> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >>> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > brought exposed film inside it's borders....What possible harm could > result from that? It could be porn, or illegal photos. With no way to confirm it's content short of developing it, they can't know... ...and...they want to KNOW everything. > >>> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a > >>> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > short of developing it, they can't know... > ...and...they want to KNOW everything. You seem to know a lot about China - or are you just postulating? There are many more ways to get 'illegal' images into a country than on unprocessed film. Besides, if a film is full of 'illegal' images, but the tongue is left out of the cassette, who's to tell if it's exposed or not? In that case, they would have to ban *all* film from being imported. Colin >> >>> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >> >>> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Colin I don't claim any expertise on China, though I have traveled there. My film was inspected in Hong Kong, but was not a problem. As with US and other airports, I found that scrutiny varied greatly among different attendants. >> >>> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >> >>> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Colin Yes. They should ban all film, because you might take pictures of bad things with it. In a similar vein, they should ban all brains, because you might have bad thoughts....Oh wait! The do ban brains....They are Communists! >>>> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >>>> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > short of developing it, they can't know... > ...and...they want to KNOW everything. So what you're saying is, they don't allow, "latent images" of certain things. but in order to know whether those things are bad things, they would have to develop the film, so why not just have laws against having images of those certain things? It seems to me that having latent images of bad things is like having bad thoughts. They can't know if you have bad thoughts unless you express those thoughts, so why not have laws against expressing those thoughts? - And, similarly, why not just have laws against bad images? >>>>> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >>>>> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > expressing those thoughts? - And, similarly, why not just have laws > against bad images? You're preaching to the choir, William! :) -Mark >>>>>> I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >>>>>> phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > You're preaching to the choir, William! :) > -Mark I know....I'm not blaming you....... > Sounds crazy to me....I can't imagine why any country would care if you > brought exposed film inside it's borders....What possible harm could result > from that? I would think you would see why a communist country that is very contolling of the media would not want undeveloped film carrying unknown contecnt into the country. Developed film can be inspected.  SignatureA beaver and a rabbit are sitting in the woods near Hoover Dam. "Did you build that one?" the rabbit asked. "No, but it was based on an idea of mine," the beaver replied. -Jack Kilby on his invention of the IC. >> Sounds crazy to me....I can't imagine why any country would care if you >> brought exposed film inside it's borders....What possible harm could [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > contolling of the media would not want undeveloped film carrying unknown > contecnt into the country. Developed film can be inspected. No. I can see why they wouldn't want exposed film LEAVING their country, but not why they wouldn't want it coming into their country....... [snip] >No. I can see why they wouldn't want exposed film LEAVING their country, but >not why they wouldn't want it coming into their country....... Images of the Dalai Lama are not looked favourably upon for example (especially in Tibet!) Perhaps they're worried that you might make a few prints or give others the ability to make additional prints for distribution. However, I've been to Hong Kong several times post both pre and post 1997 and have never had any problems with film...I don't recall even being aware of any such restrictions. SignatureKulvinder Singh Matharu Website : www.metalvortex.com Contact : www.metalvortex.com/form/form.htm "It ain't Coca Cola, it's rice", Straight to Hell - The Clash This is one of the 2 sites I saw it on. I can't remewmber the other. http://travelguides.lastminute.ie/sisp/?fx=location&rg_id=&loc_id=131023&sub_sec tion=Duty%20Free Mike >I have just seen on a web site that exposed but unprocessed film is a >phohibited item when entering China. Does this apply to entering Hong [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Thanks >Mike > This is one of the 2 sites I saw it on. I can't remewmber the other. > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Thanks > >Mike I queried my daughter about unprocessed film entering China, and she says that over the numerous times she has crossed the HK/China border the customs have barely glanced at her gear. She carries a semi-pro camera bag with EOS gear and several lenses plus film etc, and has never been questioned. It looks to me like that website is quoting the Chinese Customs regulations, which are there to be invoked when necessary, but are not usually enforced, just like any other country. In any case, if you have unexposed film in your posession while in HK, there are Fuji plazas with Frontier gear who do a damn good job. I have had many rolls processed and printed there with excellent results. IMO this is preferable to more x-rays on unprocessed film at airports and border contols - plus you get to verify your shots while you still have an opportunity to repeat them if necessary. Colin [---] >It looks to me like that website is quoting the Chinese Customs >regulations, which are there to be invoked when necessary, but are not >usually enforced, just like any other country. That's also been my experience - on dozens of trips to China, my baggage was never searched. >In any case, if you have unexposed film in your posession while in HK, >there are Fuji plazas with Frontier gear who do a damn good job. I have >had many rolls processed and printed there with excellent results. Also my experience - film processing in Hong Kong is well done and relatively cheap (but virtually nothing else is in HK, these days). |
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