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canon 75-300 zoom lense

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robin724 - 27 Mar 2005 00:45 GMT
I have taken about 5 rolls of film with a canon 75-300 zoom lense on a
rebel - all photos, no matter what the light source is, are grainy and
dull.  I have taken close ups and distance shots, indoors and outdoors.
Does anyone have any suggestions on why this is happening?  I am a novice
photographer and know very little about the technology.
jimkramer - 27 Mar 2005 02:19 GMT
>I have taken about 5 rolls of film with a canon 75-300 zoom lense on a
> rebel - all photos, no matter what the light source is, are grainy and
> dull.  I have taken close ups and distance shots, indoors and outdoors.
> Does anyone have any suggestions on why this is happening?  I am a novice
> photographer and know very little about the technology.

What kind of film? maker, brand, ISO
IS or non IS lens?
Define "dull".

Jim
robin724 - 27 Mar 2005 03:53 GMT
Usually Kodak 400, but I've used others and it doesn't seem to matter.  The
photos are not sharp and clear - the color is muted and the overall image
is grainy.
rob - 01 Jan 2002 05:00 GMT
:>Usually Kodak 400, but I've used others and it doesn't seem to matter.  The
:>photos are not sharp and clear - the color is muted and the overall image
:>is grainy.

I used to have a Rebel 2000 with the same lens and it worked very well. Muted
colour and grainy sounds like under-exposure.

A couple of things to check:
1. Are the batteries fresh?
2. Is camera picking up the correct ISO info from the film cannister?
3. Is the exposure compensation to "0"? That's the scale from marked -2 to +2
on the LCD panel.
4. Is exposure metering set for "evaluative"?
5. Try using a different photo lab and see if that helps.

Hope this helps.

Rob
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robin724 - 28 Mar 2005 02:56 GMT
I will try your suggestions - thanks.
robin724 - 27 Mar 2005 03:54 GMT
I don;t know if the lens is IS or nonIS - what does that mean?
jimkramer - 28 Mar 2005 00:38 GMT
> Usually Kodak 400, but I've used others and it doesn't seem to matter.
> The
> photos are not sharp and clear - the color is muted and the overall image
> is grainy.

Rob has some good points.  Do check the exposure compensation and check to
make sure the ISO is correct for the film used.

Do you have a tripod? Try using that for a few shots.  Do you have a flash?
How do the shots taken with a flash compare?

Have you just gotten this lens? How does the camera work with other lenses?

Jim
robin724 - 28 Mar 2005 01:37 GMT
Thecamera has a built in flash and it seems to always go off when I use
this lens.  Do yo uthink I should use manual settings and a slower shutter
speed?  I use it on automatic.
jimkramer - 28 Mar 2005 01:48 GMT
> Thecamera has a built in flash and it seems to always go off when I use
> this lens.  Do yo uthink I should use manual settings and a slower shutter
> speed?  I use it on automatic.

A-HA, Turn the flash off.  It is useless at the long range of the lens and
is blocked by the lens at the short range.  Try the creative modes, even if
it is just the P mode.

Jim
Mark Lauter - 28 Mar 2005 03:28 GMT
> > Thecamera has a built in flash and it seems to always go off when I use
> > this lens.  Do yo uthink I should use manual settings and a slower shutter
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> is blocked by the lens at the short range.  Try the creative modes, even if
> it is just the P mode.

And to turn the flash off just push it back down till it snaps back into
it's little cubby hole.  That took me a while to figure out and I actually
had to resort to <shudder!!> the manual which I hate to do.  The when the
camera is in "flash mode" it will adjust the exposure to sync with the
flash.  Even if you try to use manual while the flash is up, it's going to
give you wrong exposure readings.

It kinda bothers me that the camera doesn't have a way to just permanantly
disable the on-camera flash - and I honestly don't understand why they even
include such a thing on the camera.

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Bob Hickey - 31 Mar 2005 16:31 GMT
> Thecamera has a built in flash and it seems to always go off when I use
> this lens.  Do yo uthink I should use manual settings and a slower shutter
> speed?  I use it on automatic.
> Message posted via http://www.photokb.com             Each film has a
certain # of grain crystals. Nothing can change that. But if all of them
aren't exposed, they are washed away in developing leaving a smaller amount
in printing. This appears grainy and often a dull blue. The same look is
often gotten by overused or exhausted chemistry. Try turning off the flash
and w/ say, Fuji 400. shoot a frame @400 then over ride the DX shoot another
@ 200, then @ 100 then @ 50.  Write it down. Which ever color you like on
the final print, that's it from then on. Look upon the rating on the box as
a suggested starting point, not as a working solution. I doubt very much if
there's anything wrong w/ the lens.        Bob hickey
William Graham - 27 Mar 2005 22:17 GMT
>>I have taken about 5 rolls of film with a canon 75-300 zoom lense on a
>> rebel - all photos, no matter what the light source is, are grainy and
>> dull.  I have taken close ups and distance shots, indoors and outdoors.
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on why this is happening?  I am a novice
>> photographer and know very little about the technology.

Try a roll of Fujichrome slide film, and view your slides with a good loupe
and a bright light behind them.....
Scott W - 27 Mar 2005 08:04 GMT
Are you getting better looking photos using a different lens with this
same camera?

The 75-300 is not the highest contrast lens but it is not all that bad
either, you should be able to get some good photos using it.  I would
use a much slower film, like ISO 100.  Watch out for hand shake, you
might want to take some photos using a tripod. It does sound somewhat
like either the exposure was off or the film processing was not done
well.

The 75-300 lens should give you at least as good results as you get
from the kit lens that came with the camera.

Scott
robin724 - 28 Mar 2005 01:39 GMT
I do get better photos with the lens that came with the camera.  I will use
the other lens and see how they compare.  Also, i will try to ISO 100.  I
have used different processing places and get the same results.  Do you
htink there could be something wrong with the lens?
Mark Lauter - 28 Mar 2005 03:32 GMT
> I do get better photos with the lens that came with the camera.  I will use
> the other lens and see how they compare.  Also, i will try to ISO 100.  I
> have used different processing places and get the same results.  Do you
> htink there could be something wrong with the lens?

From what I've read so far I'd say it's unlikely.  It sounds like you're
underexposing the because the camera is adjusting the exposure to compensate
for the flash.  As jmkramer suggested - when the flash pops up, push it back
down.  In addition to that you might try shooting in aperture priority mode
(T) and opening that baby up all the way.

If this doesn't fix the problem, then I'd say there's a problem with the
lens.

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snaps.

death skunk five - 27 Mar 2005 08:13 GMT
how are you viewing this result?
on a lab print or neg scan?

>I have taken about 5 rolls of film with a canon 75-300 zoom lense on a
> rebel - all photos, no matter what the light source is, are grainy and
> dull.  I have taken close ups and distance shots, indoors and outdoors.
> Does anyone have any suggestions on why this is happening?  I am a novice
> photographer and know very little about the technology.
Scott W - 28 Mar 2005 03:52 GMT
> how are you viewing this result?
> on a lab print or neg scan?

This is a pretty key question.  In the past I have had mini-labs make
prints that were so far out of focus that it was a joke.  A newer
mini-lab using a light-jet type printer should not have this problem.

Scott
Dr. Joel M. Hoffman - 29 Mar 2005 22:04 GMT
>I have taken about 5 rolls of film with a canon 75-300 zoom lense on a
>rebel - all photos, no matter what the light source is, are grainy and
>dull.  I have taken close ups and distance shots, indoors and outdoors.
>Does anyone have any suggestions on why this is happening?  I am a novice
>photographer and know very little about the technology.

The 75-300 zoom is a fine lens, not as good as primes or the L-lenses,
but still good enough that you should be happy with the pictures.

My first guess would be a problem with the film.  I would try buying
film from a good photo shop, taking some pictures on "automatic" on a
bright overcast day, and seeing what comes back.  If *those* pictures
have problems, then you might have a bad lens, or, more likely, a bad
light meter.

-Joel

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Paul Bielec - 29 Mar 2005 22:30 GMT
> I have taken about 5 rolls of film with a canon 75-300 zoom lense on a
> rebel - all photos, no matter what the light source is, are grainy and
> dull.  I have taken close ups and distance shots, indoors and outdoors.
> Does anyone have any suggestions on why this is happening?  I am a novice
> photographer and know very little about the technology.

I have a 75-300 III USM that me and my wife use all the time on our
EOS300 and EOS 300D. The results have always been great, considering how
cheap that lens is.
On the film that gave you bad shots using 75-300, do you have shots
taken with another lens? How are they?
You have to always pay attention to your shutter speed when using this
lens hand held. And, as said by others, be careful about the flash. I
use the built-in flash with this lens on short distance with my 300D,
however I believe that on some other EOS bodies the flash might not
popup high enough and will be shadowed by the lens.
 
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