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Tamron Vs Nikon: Lens question

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JP - 26 Feb 2005 19:09 GMT
Can anyone shed light on the myth that Tamron produce the (70-300 LD zoom)
lens that Nikon market as their own (70-300mm ED). I want to buy one or the
other but would appreciate your views as to whether image quality will
differ much between the two.
Thanks in advance. P
Robert Brace - 26 Feb 2005 21:45 GMT
Run, don't walk, far away from the Tamron as quickly as possible!!!
Bob

> Can anyone shed light on the myth that Tamron produce the (70-300 LD zoom)
> lens that Nikon market as their own (70-300mm ED). I want to buy one or
> the other but would appreciate your views as to whether image quality will
> differ much between the two.
> Thanks in advance. P
columbotrek - 27 Feb 2005 00:42 GMT
When one compares the sales diagrams of the two lenses, both appear to
have identical arrangements of elements and groups.  Could be that the
same factory makes both.  I have the Nikkor 70-300 f/4-5.6 AFD-ED.  It
is ok for snaps but it is not the sharpest lens in my collection.  It is
one of the least expensive Nikkors I own.  I think that the 50mm f/1.4
may be the lowest cost Nikkor I own.  Even if Tamron does produce it for
Nikkor, it would be under contract with Nikkor and would be made to
Nikkor's specifications.  Which one would hope would be different than
those of the Tamron brand.

> Can anyone shed light on the myth that Tamron produce the (70-300 LD zoom)
> lens that Nikon market as their own (70-300mm ED). I want to buy one or the
> other but would appreciate your views as to whether image quality will
> differ much between the two.
> Thanks in advance. P
Michael Benveniste - 27 Feb 2005 05:42 GMT
>Even if Tamron does produce it for
>Nikkor, it would be under contract with Nikkor and would be made to
>Nikkor's specifications.  Which one would hope would be different than
>those of the Tamron brand.

I asked Nikon USA about this about a year ago.  The reply I got
was that the 70-300mm was designed by Nikon and is built by Nikon,
and also that the Tamron does not have a common design or
manufacturing source.  The email specifically prohibits me posting it
here, but the case number was K451212.

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ethan melad - 28 Feb 2005 01:01 GMT
i find it hard to believe that they would be made in the same factory since
the glass is different. i doubt that nikon would sell its ED glass to
tamron or use tamron's glass with an ED label...

>Run, don't walk, far away from the Tamron as quickly as possible!!!

i see absolutely nothing wrong with the tamron. from what ive experienced,
there is virtually no difference in image quality and the tamron is
cheaper. not to say that its the greatest lens, but it does the job.
Robert Brace - 28 Feb 2005 03:25 GMT
I guess it depends upon the job you want done.
My experience has shown over the last 50 years that you get what you pay for
, particularly with pro photo glass.  I can't include Tamron in that group
because "doing the job" in my eyes includes the complete ownership
experience - use & service.  That completely eliminates Tamron and their
distribution chain from my equation.
As they say - "your experience may differ" - mine didn't!!
Bob

>i find it hard to believe that they would be made in the same factory since
> the glass is different. i doubt that nikon would sell its ED glass to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> there is virtually no difference in image quality and the tamron is
> cheaper. not to say that its the greatest lens, but it does the job.
Bill Tuthill - 28 Feb 2005 16:25 GMT
>>Even if Tamron does produce it for
>>Nikkor, it would be under contract with Nikkor and would be made to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> manufacturing source.  The email specifically prohibits me posting it
> here, but the case number was K451212.

Very interesting.  The optical specifications and even the Photodo.com
MTF tests sure make them look similar.  Of course the Nikon exterior
is different and likely "designed by Nikon".  Note that they don't say
"wholly designed by Nikon".  Also they say "Tamron does not have" a
common design, not "Tamron never had" a common design.  This could be
due to Tamron having changed the design when filter size increased
from 58 to 62 and 2:1 macro was implemented.
stephen zimic - 28 Feb 2005 13:12 GMT
Several years ago Nikon announced that there was going to be a technical
alliance of sorts with Tamron. Tamron has some patents on lens optics that
put them on the map with their 28-200 back in 1993, specifically the glass
and asperic acrylic sandwich that allowed for unparalleled quality in long
range zooms. I assume Nikon wanted to tap into that technology. Shortly
after the announcement, Nikon came out with the 70-300 ED lens at an
incredibly low price of $400 - low for a Nikon lens anyway. Although the
lens certainly felt and operated nicer than the Tamron, the number of
elements, groups and placement of those groups was exactly the same.
Whether or not all the glass was the same I don't know but the performance
seemed identical. The coating on the lenses did seem different. Tamron has
since redesigned their 70-300, coming out with two versions the 75 and the
70. I have first hand knowledge that both lenses are identical with the
exception of the macro focusing on the 70. The numerical difference is
simply there to more easily differentiate between the two. The new Tamron
performs as well as the origianl but I think the build quality has lessened
and I find the lens more awkward to use than the original or Nikon version.
I think either lens is good for the money, but if you want really sharp
pictures go for the Nikon 80-200/2.8. Put a 1.4X Tamron SP converter on it
and you've got up to 280mm at f4 that's performs better than any of the 70-
300's. I hope this helps.
 
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