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>Well it is pretty hard to argue that needing chemical processing is not
>to some extent a down side..
i really dont find it hard to argue at all...
film looks better, plain and simple.
Scott W - 26 Feb 2005 06:23 GMT
> >Well it is pretty hard to argue that needing chemical processing is not
> >to some extent a down side..
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Well now the question was not does film make a better photo, the
question was is that fact that it needs chemical procession a downs
side. I could say the same thing about say ISO 100 film and ISO 800
film, there is a down side to ISO 100 film, it is slower and therefore
harder to use in low light conditions, but I think everyone would agree
that the photos from ISO 100 film would look better. Point being that
maybe the camera is good overall but it does have some downsides and
one of those is that fact that it needs chemical processing.
Scott
Scott W - 26 Feb 2005 06:50 GMT
> >Well it is pretty hard to argue that needing chemical processing is not
> >to some extent a down side..
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Well now the question was not does film make a better photo, the
question was is that fact that it needs chemical procession a downs
side. I could say the same thing about say ISO 100 film and ISO 800
film, there is a down side to ISO 100 film, it is slower and therefore
harder to use in low light conditions, but I think everyone would agree
that the photos from ISO 100 film would look better. Point being that
maybe the camera is good overall but it does have some downsides and
one of those is that fact that it needs chemical processing.
Scott
Woodard R. Springstube - 27 Feb 2005 02:38 GMT
>>Well it is pretty hard to argue that needing chemical
>>processing is not to some extent a down side..
>
> i really dont find it hard to argue at all...
> film looks better, plain and simple.
The reality is that everything involves trade-offs. Film has,
to my eye, a great advantage in quality of the finished photo,
compared to digital. The chemical processing, in our
environmentally sensitive age, is a down side. By the way,
photography is not the only art form that may face changes due
to environmentalism. There is talk that the various cadmium
pigments (cadmium red, cadmium yellow, cadmium orange, etc.) may
be banned because of environmental and health risks. That is a
shame because no other red or yellow pigments are quite as
bright and still reasonably lightfast. Many of the synthetic
organic pigments are just as nice when fresh, but are fugitive
as hell when exposed to light. What a shame. Maybe it won't
happen.
Alan Browne - 27 Feb 2005 15:50 GMT
>>>Well it is pretty hard to argue that needing chemical
>>>processing is not to some extent a down side..
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> photography is not the only art form that may face changes due
> to environmentalism. There is talk that the various cadmium
Do have an inkling of what is involved in chip making?

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Scott W - 27 Feb 2005 19:36 GMT
> >>>Well it is pretty hard to argue that needing chemical
> >>>processing is not to some extent a down side..
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> Do have an inkling of what is involved in chip making?
I do, I do! :)
Scott
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Woodard R. Springstube - 28 Feb 2005 02:14 GMT
>>>>Well it is pretty hard to argue that needing chemical
>>>>processing is not to some extent a down side..
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> Do have an inkling of what is involved in chip making?
I know, I know. But, when the tree huggers get started, they
tend to do two things: First, they ignore the environmental
damage that is involved with anything that THEY use. Second,
they never allow facts to get in the way of "the cause."
Scott W - 28 Feb 2005 03:31 GMT
> >>>>Well it is pretty hard to argue that needing chemical
> >>>>processing is not to some extent a down side..
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> damage that is involved with anything that THEY use. Second,
> they never allow facts to get in the way of "the cause."
Whereas it is true there are some really nasty chemicals use in the
production of IC the amount of these use to produce a sensor is
extremely small, the amount of photographic chemicals saved on the
other hand is fairly large over the life of a camera.
Also the real nasty stuff used in the IC plants does not tend to make
it into the environment.
Having said all that I would not worry all that much about using film,
based on evniromental damage.
Scott