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Using Vivitar flash w/Canon10d

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John Emmons - 26 Oct 2004 20:58 GMT
Anyone have any practical experience using an aftermarket, old fashioned
automatic thyristor type of flash with a Canon 10D body? I've been told that
there are potential problems with the trigger voltage.

Like to hear from anyone who has actually tried using such a thing.

I'm not overly pleased with using the dedicated Canon flash.

Thanks.

John Emmons
me - 26 Oct 2004 21:35 GMT
> Anyone have any practical experience using an aftermarket, old fashioned
> automatic thyristor type of flash with a Canon 10D body? I've been told that
> there are potential problems with the trigger voltage.

You NEED to read this: news:10n8008kfiq6b01@corp.supernews.com
John Emmons - 26 Oct 2004 22:41 GMT
Thanks for the enlightening info.  I think a Wein safe sync is in my future.
And maybe a new Vivitar 283.

John Emmons

> > Anyone have any practical experience using an aftermarket, old fashioned
> > automatic thyristor type of flash with a Canon 10D body? I've been told
> that
> > there are potential problems with the trigger voltage.
>
> You NEED to read this: news:10n8008kfiq6b01@corp.supernews.com
Bill Hilton - 26 Oct 2004 22:29 GMT
>From: "John Emmons" johncyn@worldnet.att.net

>Anyone have any practical experience using an aftermarket, old fashioned
>automatic thyristor type of flash with a Canon 10D body?

I've used a Vivitar 285 a couple of times, no problems.

>I've been told that
>there are potential problems with the trigger voltage.

Have also heard this but don't know exactly which models are problematic.

>I'm not overly pleased with using the dedicated Canon flash.

I also have a Canon 550EX and it's ten times easier to use than the Vivitar,
plus I get E-TTL with it for very effective fill-flash, which is mainly how I
use it.  Also second-curtain sync, wider coverage, more power and a high-speed
sync mode that lets me shoot at any shutter speed up to 1/8000th sec.  Why are
you not "pleased" with the Canon flashes?  I like mine a lot.

Bill
John Emmons - 26 Oct 2004 22:36 GMT
Seems way overly complicated, and that's coming from someone who's used
Canon equipment since the AE-1 was still a pretty cool camera.

I just don't need all that stuff anymore, the bulk of my on-camera flash
work is just grip and grin kinda stuff these days. Anything else I set up
real strobes.

Thanks for the info.

John
> >From: "John Emmons" johncyn@worldnet.att.net
>
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>
> Bill
Michael A. Covington - 26 Oct 2004 22:41 GMT
> Anyone have any practical experience using an aftermarket, old fashioned
> automatic thyristor type of flash with a Canon 10D body? I've been told
> that
> there are potential problems with the trigger voltage.

MEASURE the trigger voltage by connecting a voltmeter between the flash
contacts (edge and middle of shoe) with the flash turned on and ready, but
not attached to the camera.

If it is over 6 volts, use a Wein SafeSync between flash and camera, to keep
the camera's circuitry from being fried.
Siddhartha Jain - 28 Oct 2004 08:27 GMT
> Anyone have any practical experience using an aftermarket, old fashioned
> automatic thyristor type of flash with a Canon 10D body? I've been told that
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>
> I'm not overly pleased with using the dedicated Canon flash.
Check the Sigma DG EF-500 Super. $149 at Adorama.
Magnus W - 29 Oct 2004 08:53 GMT
> Anyone have any practical experience using an aftermarket, old
> fashioned automatic thyristor type of flash with a Canon 10D body?

If it is a thyristor flash, chances are that control and high voltage will
be separated... that's after all one of the things the thyristor is there
to do :-P
me - 29 Oct 2004 14:17 GMT
> > Anyone have any practical experience using an aftermarket, old
> > fashioned automatic thyristor type of flash with a Canon 10D body?
>
> If it is a thyristor flash, chances are that control and high voltage will
> be separated... that's after all one of the things the thyristor is there
> to do :-P

My Sunpak AUTO411 is a thyristor (as per the manual) and it has a trigger
voltage of 192 Volts (as measured by me :-)).
Happy Trails
me
Magnus W - 30 Oct 2004 01:14 GMT
> My Sunpak AUTO411 is a thyristor (as per the manual) and it has a
> trigger voltage of 192 Volts (as measured by me :-)).

Bad flash! Bad flash! ;-)
Alan Browne - 30 Oct 2004 01:31 GMT
>>My Sunpak AUTO411 is a thyristor (as per the manual) and it has a
>>trigger voltage of 192 Volts (as measured by me :-)).
>
> Bad flash! Bad flash! ;-)

Flash trigger voltage is fine to me ... of course I use Minolta...

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