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NIKON D70 won't meter with any of the MF lenses?

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J Stryker - 26 Aug 2004 14:57 GMT
What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
we've got to use a handheld or what?
Matt Clara - 26 Aug 2004 15:28 GMT
> What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
> the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
> we've got to use a handheld or what?

There are some mf lenses that have chips--P lenses, and those "chipped" by
an independent party--which will meter with the D70.  Other than that, yes,
you'd have to use a handheld.  Or trial and error using Sunny f16 and the
lcd to review.

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J Stryker - 27 Aug 2004 16:04 GMT
> > What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
> > the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
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> you'd have to use a handheld.  Or trial and error using Sunny f16 and the
> lcd to review.

Well, i've got a lot of these ai and ais manual focus from the 80's
and early 90's so i've gotta say that just sucks!!
Bruce Murphy - 27 Aug 2004 16:32 GMT
> > > What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
> > > the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
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> Well, i've got a lot of these ai and ais manual focus from the 80's
> and early 90's so i've gotta say that just sucks!!

It's not particularly surprising, given the mechanical coupling on
most of the lenses. the d2H gets around it in a fairly exciting
manner.

Have a look at www.naturfotograf.com for some more information, too.

B
ROBMURR - 26 Aug 2004 16:55 GMT
>What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
>the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
>we've got to use a handheld or what

With all the changes to the lenses in the last few years they really
have a mess on their hands with compatibility issues.
I found this info, but it may be out of date:
http://www.nikonlinks.com/unklbil/bodylens.htm
Matt Clara - 26 Aug 2004 17:02 GMT
> >What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
> >the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
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> I found this info, but it may be out of date:
> http://www.nikonlinks.com/unklbil/bodylens.htm

You don't use Nikon, do you.  I do, and the "mess" is easy to work out.

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Bruce Murphy - 26 Aug 2004 17:08 GMT
> > >What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
> > >the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
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>
> You don't use Nikon, do you.  I do, and the "mess" is easy to work out.

Come now Matt, you can't stop the canon apologists drooling. They've
all gone very quiet about the EF-S lenses though, haven't they? :)

B
Dallas - 27 Aug 2004 05:37 GMT
>> > >What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
>> > >the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
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>
> B>

Sadly instead of going quiet they've launched a full frontal assualt on
Nikon. This is led of course by Tony Spadaro.

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William Graham - 26 Aug 2004 18:01 GMT
> > >What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
> > >the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> You don't use Nikon, do you.  I do, and the "mess" is easy to work out.

Yes. - I can hang any piece of glass Nikon has made since 1959 on my F5, and
shoot away.....It cost a hunk of change, but its been worth it for that fact
alone. And the latest VR, or IS lenses with built in computer chips and auto
focus and all the other bells and whistles still mount and work on the same
old F bayonet.......A truly remarkable engineering feat, IMO.
ROBMURR - 27 Aug 2004 03:08 GMT
> With all the changes to the lenses in the last few years they really
>> have a mess on their hands with compatibility issues.
>> I found this info, but it may be out of date:
>> http://www.nikonlinks.com/unklbil/bodylens.htm
>
>You don't use Nikon, do you.  I do, and the "mess" is easy to work out.

Not since my F4...Nikon told me it was autofocus...
Since I could focus my 80-200 faster myself I went to Canon.
Never looked back.
William Graham - 27 Aug 2004 05:14 GMT
> > With all the changes to the lenses in the last few years they really
> >> have a mess on their hands with compatibility issues.
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> Since I could focus my 80-200 faster myself I went to Canon.
> Never looked back.

This illustrates the difference in preferences between different users.....I
have supposedly great AF in my F5, and I hate it and never use it. I didn't
like the AF on my son-in-laws Canon either. So, I could care less about AF,
and it has nothing to do with my choice of a camera....
Dallas - 27 Aug 2004 18:20 GMT
>> With all the changes to the lenses in the last few years they really
>>> have a mess on their hands with compatibility issues. I found this
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> Not since my F4...Nikon told me it was autofocus... Since I could focus my
> 80-200 faster myself I went to Canon. Never looked back.

Put an AF-S lens on an F4 and you have a very fast focussing camera. I
have the 70-200mm f/2.8G AF-S VR and on my F4 it loses M and A modes, but
I have been able to live with that.

As far as the compatibility "mess" goes, it's quite simple to work around
if you know which bodies support which types of lenses.

What I like about the Nikon system is that even without the built in
metering for older MF Nikkors, you can still mount and use them on a
modern camera like the D70. The pro level cameras support nearly all the
lens types. There's nothing quite as satisfying as finding an old classic
Nikkor for next to nothing and being able to use it on a DSLR.

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J Stryker - 27 Aug 2004 16:07 GMT
> > >What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
> > >the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> You don't use Nikon, do you.  I do, and the "mess" is easy to work out.

Matt, seriously considering getting one so how do you work the mess out??
Matt Clara - 30 Aug 2004 23:56 GMT
> > > >What's this i hear about the D70 not being able to meter with any of
> > > >the manual focus lenses?  Is it in some of the modes or any mode?  So
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Matt, seriously considering getting one so how do you work the mess out??

Don't mount any non AI lenses, as they will cause damage to the camera.  The
very few F3AF lenses produced are a no no.  AI-S lenses will mount and shoot
fine, but won't meter.  AI-P lenses have a chip in them, and will mount and
meter fine.  AF, AF-D, AF-S, VR and G lenses are all good to go.

http://www.nikonians.org/html/resources/nikon_articles/other/compatibility.html

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