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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / September 2008[SI] archive of past shootins
I found a tool to DL the entire Pbase/shootin photo set into a directory structure. Even generates a half-assed index for each mandate with thumbs... If anyone wants a copy of the archive, pls contact me by e-meil. Set is about 230 MB. Cheers, Alan.  Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. > I found a tool to DL the entire Pbase/shootin photo set into a directory > structure. Even generates a half-assed index for each mandate with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Set is about 230 MB. Thanks, but I already have copies of all the good ones. ;-) > I found a tool to DL the entire Pbase/shootin photo set into > a directory structure. Even generates a half-assed index [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Set is about 230 MB. I'll bite. E-meil sent. It really is a marvelous overall body of work, considering the source was a mostly anonymous group of mostly amateur photographer Usenet posters with nothing really to gain. What an impressive amount of effort everyone involved expended. Too bad this newsgroup has death-spiraled the way it has... Ken >> I found a tool to DL the entire Pbase/shootin photo set into >> a directory structure. Even generates a half-assed index [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Ken What would be really good Ken, would be to be able to positively identify the cause of the death spin. Some believe the troll theory and say it was started way back when the resident loony started attacking Lisa Horton. If that were true, how come it kept sliding when that stopped? There are other who think it is the lack of skills needed to get good results from a digital camera - thus making discussion about the merits of various pieces of equipment somewhat irrelevant. And then there is the consensus of opinion from 'net savey web developers who will tell you it is the sheer amount of information available on the Internet by searching for what you want that makes discussion in newsgroups about the relative merits of (let's say) a 500 mm mirror lens unlikely to produce any information not otherwise obtainable more easily. My own opinion falls somewhere in the middle of the radical and moderate theory. I've known for a few years that asking for advise in newsgroups is likely to end up in a flame war, leaving the OP struggling to comprehend what it was all about. So take away the purpose of a newsgroup and what's left? Pretty close to real time chatting but with nothing to chat about. Enter the bored felons affectionately known as trolls. These jokers began to make their presence felt about 2002 or 2003 in all newsgroups. They couldn't hold up an intelligent argument if they tried so they create a fiasco they can get down and dirty with and start a bun fight with anyone making a relevant post. Anal Browne's (he doesn't read my post so I can call him anything) belief that the only way to handle a troll is with a kill file is gorgeously naive and completely out of sync with today's Usenet troll. The trolls are not the ones responsible for the decline of these groups. They may have given it a nudge, but that's about all. The Shootin went into decline at about the same rate photo posting sites rose in popularity. It's a fossil in a rapidly changing environment. It has never evolved and with the proposals Anal has put up, is very unlikely to do anything except increase the static and flame wars in groups that don't need it. My opinion is that the Internet is responsible for the decline of Usenet. They were competing mediums in the first place and the Internet has all but won. Shootin either needs to go commercial and provide all the whistles and bells of a competition - including prizes and many other things to attract people or it'll struggle along as Anal's little empire. Like some of us, he wants control. He's got it now! > What would be really good Ken, would be to be able to positively > identify the cause of the death spin. > > Some believe the troll theory and say it was started way back when the > resident loony started attacking Lisa Horton. If that were true, how > come it kept sliding when that stopped? The "troll theory" really isn't valid as everyone in this group, including the ones that use sockpuppets can be considered trolls. > There are other who think it is the lack of skills needed to get good > results from a digital camera - thus making discussion about the > merits of various pieces of equipment somewhat irrelevant. Sadly, any discussion on Usenet turns into a pissing contest so whatever the topic it is a waste of effort. > And then there is the consensus of opinion from 'net savey web > developers who will tell you it is the sheer amount of information > available on the Internet by searching for what you want that makes > discussion in newsgroups about the relative merits of (let's say) a > 500 mm mirror lens unlikely to produce any information not otherwise > obtainable more easily. The reality of the situation is that one can simply Google the information they seek and never post a single question. I agree that you still have to wade through mountains of disinformation and other noise to find that nugget, but it is easier than engaging in pissing contests, unless that is your goal. > My own opinion falls somewhere in the middle of the radical and > moderate theory. I've known for a few years that asking for advise in > newsgroups is likely to end up in a flame war, leaving the OP > struggling to comprehend what it was all about. Usenet, like CB radio of yesteryear, has the same feel and noise. It's the old west version of a shitbox. > So take away the purpose of a newsgroup and what's left? Pretty close > to real time chatting but with nothing to chat about. Enter the bored > felons affectionately known as trolls. There never was any legitimate purpose of newsgroups. > These jokers began to make their presence felt about 2002 or 2003 in > all newsgroups. They couldn't hold up an intelligent argument if they > tried so they create a fiasco they can get down and dirty with and > start a bun fight with anyone making a relevant post. The timeline started long before that. > Anal Browne's (he doesn't read my post so I can call him anything) > belief that the only way to handle a troll is with a kill file is > gorgeously naive and completely out of sync with today's Usenet troll. LOL! Don't be too sure of him not reading your posts. Judging by the number of hits the Usenet Stimulus Project page gets we have a lot of busted killfiles. > The trolls are not the ones responsible for the decline of these > groups. They may have given it a nudge, but that's about all. The > Shootin went into decline at about the same rate photo posting sites > rose in popularity. Yep! And moderated groups and forums. > It's a fossil in a rapidly changing environment. It has never evolved > and with the proposals Anal has put up, is very unlikely to do > anything except increase the static and flame wars in groups that > don't need it. Well, it can be hosted on flickr instead of pbase, but that would surely piss a few people off. > My opinion is that the Internet is responsible for the decline of > Usenet. They were competing mediums in the first place and the > Internet has all but won. No. People that want to participate in intelligent and civil conversations went to moderated forums. > Shootin either needs to go commercial and provide all the whistles and > bells of a competition - including prizes and many other things to > attract people or it'll struggle along as Anal's little empire. Like > some of us, he wants control. He's got it now! It's really not Anal's fault. He might feel all warm and fuzzy now that he's controlling the helm, but that will pass in a few months. Rita SignatureStamping out Internet stupidity one idiot at a time. Never empower the idiot, embrace it and stimulate it. For more details go to the Usenet Stimulus Project page. http://ritaberk.myhosting247.com > Well, it can be hosted on flickr instead of pbase, but that would surely > piss a few people off. I think complaining about where the Shootin is hosted makes about as much sense as saying, "I'm not going to watch the Olympics because I don't like Bob Costas or NBC." > It's really not Anal's fault. He might feel all warm and fuzzy now that > he's controlling the helm, but that will pass in a few months. True dat! > I think complaining about where the Shootin is hosted makes about as > much sense as saying, "I'm not going to watch the Olympics because I > don't like Bob Costas or NBC." I have yet to hear a reason why Pbase is so horrid. At least compared to the others. If nothing else, Pbase is still about the photos, and has resisted devolving into YetAnotherSocialNetwork. (Not that I use it -- I self-host, for a number of reasons) - Solomon SignatureSolomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet dot org Melbourne, FL ^^ (mail/jabber/gtalk) ^^ Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. ICQ: 1318344 Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 13/08/2008 11:48 PM: >> Well, it can be hosted on flickr instead of pbase, but that would surely >> piss a few people off. > > I think complaining about where the Shootin is hosted makes about as > much sense as saying, "I'm not going to watch the Olympics because I > don't like Bob Costas or NBC." Brett, you are a retard. Stop please: you are an embarrassment to the human species as a whole. It's great that you are a miserable impotent fuckwit: it would indeed be a crime against humanity for such as you to breed... >> What would be really good Ken, would be to be able to positively >> identify the cause of the death spin. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The "troll theory" really isn't valid as everyone in this group, including > the ones that use sockpuppets can be considered trolls. And some, like you, are just trolls. >> There are other who think it is the lack of skills needed to get good >> results from a digital camera - thus making discussion about the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the > topic it is a waste of effort. Only when trolls who never, ever post proof of their claims enter the fray. Some of us only deal in facts. >> And then there is the consensus of opinion from 'net savey web >> developers who will tell you it is the sheer amount of information [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > the > old west version of a shitbox. Just wanted to make you feel at home. >> So take away the purpose of a newsgroup and what's left? Pretty close >> to real time chatting but with nothing to chat about. Enter the bored >> felons affectionately known as trolls. > > There never was any legitimate purpose of newsgroups. What about downloading MP3s and porn? Did you forget about those uses? Sheesh... >> These jokers began to make their presence felt about 2002 or 2003 in >> all newsgroups. They couldn't hold up an intelligent argument if they [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > busted > killfiles. And we're still waiting to see any substance from your "project." Lemme guess: nothing? >> The trolls are not the ones responsible for the decline of these >> groups. They may have given it a nudge, but that's about all. The [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Well, it can be hosted on flickr instead of pbase, but that would surely > piss a few people off. Who gives a sh.t where it's hosted? >> My opinion is that the Internet is responsible for the decline of >> Usenet. They were competing mediums in the first place and the >> Internet has all but won. > > No. People that want to participate in intelligent and civil > conversations went to moderated forums. So that's why you're here... >> Shootin either needs to go commercial and provide all the whistles and >> bells of a competition - including prizes and many other things to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It's really not Anal's fault. He might feel all warm and fuzzy now that > he's controlling the helm, but that will pass in a few months. so will gall stones >> The "troll theory" really isn't valid as everyone in this group, >> including the ones that use sockpuppets can be considered trolls. > > And some, like you, are just trolls. COOL!! >>> There are other who think it is the lack of skills needed to get >>> good results from a digital camera - thus making discussion about [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Only when trolls who never, ever post proof of their claims enter the > fray. Some of us only deal in facts. Prove it. I back up all my statements with facts and proof. >>> And then there is the consensus of opinion from 'net savey web >>> developers who will tell you it is the sheer amount of information [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Just wanted to make you feel at home. Thanks! Nothing more satisfying than stimulating idiots to think for themselves. >>> So take away the purpose of a newsgroup and what's left? Pretty >>> close to real time chatting but with nothing to chat about. Enter [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > What about downloading MP3s and porn? Did you forget about those uses? > Sheesh... That's not my cup of tea, so I guess they are irrelevant. >>> These jokers began to make their presence felt about 2002 or 2003 in >>> all newsgroups. They couldn't hold up an intelligent argument if [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > And we're still waiting to see any substance from your "project." > Lemme guess: nothing? It's a success. I got you dancing. >>> The trolls are not the ones responsible for the decline of these >>> groups. They may have given it a nudge, but that's about all. The [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Who gives a sh.t where it's hosted? Pretty much everyone. >>> My opinion is that the Internet is responsible for the decline of >>> Usenet. They were competing mediums in the first place and the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > So that's why you're here... Hey, I'm here as a public service to better the community. Look at how many people I've educated over the years. >>> Shootin either needs to go commercial and provide all the whistles >>> and bells of a competition - including prizes and many other things [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > so will gall stones So will that chorizo sausage burrito I had for dinner. Rita SignatureStamping out Internet stupidity one idiot at a time. Never empower the idiot, embrace it and stimulate it. For more details go to the Usenet Stimulus Project page. http://ritaberk.myhosting247.com >>> The "troll theory" really isn't valid as everyone in this group, >>> including the ones that use sockpuppets can be considered trolls. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Prove it. I back up all my statements with facts and proof. And all politicians are honest. >>>> And then there is the consensus of opinion from 'net savey web >>>> developers who will tell you it is the sheer amount of information [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > It's a success. I got you dancing. Can't dance without a partner, partner. Keep replying; you'll prove my point. >>>> The trolls are not the ones responsible for the decline of these >>>> groups. They may have given it a nudge, but that's about all. The [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Pretty much everyone. name one... Here again, no proof. >>>> My opinion is that the Internet is responsible for the decline of >>>> Usenet. They were competing mediums in the first place and the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > many > people I've educated over the years. Again, name one. >>>> Shootin either needs to go commercial and provide all the whistles >>>> and bells of a competition - including prizes and many other things [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > So will that chorizo sausage burrito I had for dinner. that explains your pent-up hostility >> Prove it. I back up all my statements with facts and proof. > > And all politicians are honest. Just my boy Obama. >>> And we're still waiting to see any substance from your "project." >>> Lemme guess: nothing? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Can't dance without a partner, partner. Keep replying; you'll prove my > point. Geez, and all this time I looked at you as being that proverbial piece of toilet paper one picks up on the bottom of their shoe in a public restroom. >>>> It's really not Anal's fault. He might feel all warm and fuzzy now >>>> that he's controlling the helm, but that will pass in a few months. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > that explains your pent-up hostility What pent-up hostility? I took a massive dump this morning and I must say it was like a basket full of serpents. That burrito had me exploding like a Sunni insurgent. Needless to say prior that I had chest pains from all the gas. Rita SignatureStamping out Internet stupidity one idiot at a time. Never empower the idiot, embrace it and stimulate it. For more details go to the Usenet Stimulus Project page. http://ritaberk.myhosting247.com >>> Prove it. I back up all my statements with facts and proof. >> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Rita Jesus, Berk, we don't need to know all about your bowels! Have you no modesty at all? Colin D. > Some believe the troll theory and say it was started way back when the > resident loony started attacking Lisa Horton. Hmmmm, I wonder who that could have been? Who do we know that is a vile disgusting cretin who disrespects women? (No, it wasn't me.) Oh yeah, D-Mac, you forgot one other theory. You forgot to mention how some posters were submitting fraudulent pics under a variety of aliases. That didn't kill the Shootin, per se, but it did get me to stop hosting it. The big slide commenced shortly after that. The rest of your comments were pretty much right on. You were due. Annika1980 wrote,on my timestamp of 13/08/2008 11:54 PM: > Who do we know that is a vile disgusting cretin who disrespects women? > (No, it wasn't me.) Oh yes it was! And is! Proof? Use google's Usenet: March/April 2008 > how some posters were submitting fraudulent pics under a variety of > aliases. That didn't kill the Shootin, per se, but it did get me to > stop hosting it. Really? You mean you do not post fraudulent pics under a variety of aliases? So why do you think your account in aol was cancelled? BWAHAHAHAHA! > The big slide commenced shortly after that. The big slide commenced the moment you were allowed to post in a public forum under a woman's name. Good thing though eunuchs don't live long... > The rest of your comments were pretty much right on. > You were due. Ah, a personal vendetta isn't it? Dear me: but others can't apply the same treatment to you, eh? Sucks to be shown for the idiot you are with just about every post, doesn't it? >> Some believe the troll theory and say it was started way back when the >> resident loony started attacking Lisa Horton. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > The rest of your comments were pretty much right on. > You were due. I'll clear the air about the shootin and "fraudulent pics" here and now. It wasn't me. I sent you the world famous lightning strike shot but that was it for me. It had my name on it anyway. There's enough evidence I collected looking for the creep who tried the same stunt on me as he did on Lisa to point the finger fairly and squarely at Lionel Laurer as the kook who did the damage in that area. He was in Jail for something else by the time it finally gelled. The jerk even rang me up and asked how the investigation was going, trying to feed me chaff about you being the one and then there was Anal Browne's attempt at stardom: "I know for sure it was Tony Polson". Did he have any evidence? Not a single word. He just hated the man like he hates far too many in this group to have any credibility as a host for shootin... At least we got a laugh now and then when you had it! D-Mac wrote,on my timestamp of 14/08/2008 7:40 AM: > for shootin... At least we got a laugh now and then when you had it! Oh boy, well done! Putting the cat amongst the pigeons and getting this sorry lot to show their hate of each other! There is hope for you, my son. The force is strong... >> I found a tool to DL the entire Pbase/shootin photo set into >> a directory structure. Even generates a half-assed index [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I'll bite. E-meil sent. E-mail replied to you. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. > >> Set is about 230 MB. > > E-mail replied to you. Got it. Took 49 min 10 sec to download. Must be your server, as I'm sitting at 13-14 Mbps on this end. Thanks, Alan. Ken >>>> Set is about 230 MB. >> E-mail replied to you. > > Got it. Took 49 min 10 sec to download. Must be your server, as I'm sitting > at 13-14 Mbps on this end. When I test DL'd it it took about 10 minutes. My cable modem subscription is 6 Mbps. ... hang on .... I just test DL'd it again... 13 minutes. Hostonce (server) is at best uneven in performance, however). Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. On Aug 14, 5:34 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@Freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > >>>> Set is about 230 MB. > >> E-mail replied to you. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I just test DL'd it again... 13 minutes. Send it to me. I'd like to try it at work on our new T1 line. On Aug 14, 5:34 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@Freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > Ken Nadvornick wrote: > > "Alan Browne" wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I just test DL'd it again... 13 minutes. Send it to me. I'd like to try it at work on our new T1 line. You do realize that almost any cable modem is faster than a T1 line? -Jim >On Aug 14, 5:34 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@Freelunchvideotron.ca> >wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >You do realize that almost any cable modem is faster than a T1 line? >-Jim Everything Bragika has is the best. Alan's server side is what was slowing things down on my end. I have 8Mb/sec connection with burst up to 16Mb/sec and was -barely- maintaining 1Mb/sec on the download. RP© >> On Aug 14, 5:34 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@Freelunchvideotron.ca> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > RP© Nearly all low cost web site hosts use a facility called "Bandwidth shaping" to reduce the likely hood of clients using the site for ultra fast FTP of porn and pirate software (although sites suitable for that are not all that much more expensive). Host one (Anal's hosting company) is well known for shaping low cost plan clients bandwidth. That's how they get the price down! A "real" FTP host would deliver at the line speed but then... They cost a bit more than $6 a month too! > Alan's server side is what was slowing things down on my end. > I have 8Mb/sec connection with burst up to 16Mb/sec and was -barely- > maintaining 1Mb/sec on the download. I was getting 2.5Mbi/s, while not blazing, more than adequate for an archive... that's the whole point of multitasking OS' ... you can let slower activities run out of sight until done... Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. >> Alan's server side is what was slowing things down on my end. >> I have 8Mb/sec connection with burst up to 16Mb/sec and was -barely- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > archive... that's the whole point of multitasking OS' ... you can let > slower activities run out of sight until done... Windows is not multi tasking it is a "time slicing" OS. I would have thought someone claiming to have as many brains as you Alan, would have known this. > Windows is not multi tasking it is a "time slicing" OS. I would > have thought someone claiming to have as many brains as you > Alan, would have known this. Just a gentle nudge that you may want to check twice on these definitions. All multi-tasking (computers or otherwise) is nothing more than sequential time-slicing down the arrow of time. Were it not, it would violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics just as surely as a perpetual motion machine would violate the First Law. It's only a question of who is holding the knife. Implicit in the definition of entropy is the definition of time as a sequential phenomenon. Meaning that while any CPU can process instructions very, very rapidly, it can never process two at precisely the same moment in time. Ken >> Windows is not multi tasking it is a "time slicing" OS. I would >> have thought someone claiming to have as many brains as you [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ken My point Ken is that Alan is some sort of Engineer who should know the preciseness of a description. Bill Gates is an evangelist for his own products. I can understand Gates trying to distort reality making out he's done the impossible and made a "multi tasking" system. If Alan is the keep faith with his peers, he needs to become precise in descriptions. Sharing the time a process uses is not multitasking as you so elequently pointed out yourself. : >> Windows is not multi tasking it is a "time slicing" OS. I would : >> have thought someone claiming to have as many brains as you [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] : descriptions. Sharing the time a process uses is not multitasking as you : so elequently pointed out yourself. You're out of your depth, Doug. Recent versions of Windows (certainly from Windows 2000 on) are true multi-tasking operating systems by any accepted definition of the term. And they do take advantage of multiple processors on computers that have them; i.e., they are capable of running multiple tasks simultaneously. This is entirely independent of whether any given task is subject to time-slicing or preemption. Bob >> Windows is not multi tasking it is a "time slicing" OS. I would >> have thought someone claiming to have as many brains as you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > very, very rapidly, it can never process two at precisely the same moment in > time. I never claimed it to be either/or, however, on something that takes 10 - 15 minutes to accomplish, splitting hairs over time-slice or multi-taksing (pre-emptive or otherwise) is pretty ridiculous. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. > I never claimed it to be either/or, however, on something that > takes 10 - 15 minutes to accomplish, splitting hairs over time- > slice or multi-taksing (pre-emptive or otherwise) is pretty > ridiculous. Agreed. > Implicit in the definition of entropy is the definition of time as a > sequential phenomenon. Meaning that while any CPU can process instructions > very, very rapidly, it can never process two at precisely the same moment in > time. Actually there are exceptions to this including processors running windows and executing x86 instructions. Many if not most Intel and other processors starting about introduction of pentiums achieve their speed because the CPU executes the instruction stream where possible in parallel. Most of the current crop of embedded processors achieve both parrallel and overlapped instruction execution. w.. "Ken Nadvornick" wrote: > > Implicit in the definition of entropy is the definition of time > > as a sequential phenomenon. Meaning that while any CPU can > > process instructions very, very rapidly, it can never process > > two at precisely the same moment in time. "Walter Banks" responded: > Actually there are exceptions to this including processors > running windows and executing x86 instructions. Many if not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the current crop of embedded processors achieve both > parrallel and overlapped instruction execution. But never via precisely the same event at precisely the same moment in time. If an instruction stream is being executed in parallel - and it is certainly easy enough to do - it must be done as separate events at the same points in time. (Are these called instruction or execution "pipelines?" I don't remember.) In this case a single "CPU" is no longer the minimum unit of granularity, but rather a container for multiple lower-level events occurring concurrently. In the same way, you could never physically stand (the same "event") in precisely the same location concurrently (the same "time") with someone else. If you wanted that spot, you'd have to wait (sequential passage of time) for that person to move from that location. Only then could you occupy the location *formerly* occupied by that individual. Additionally, while you were waiting for him to move, you'd be executing a similar event (standing, but in a different location) in parallel (at the same time). And I also suspect that if Niels Bohr were reading this, he might just offer a tantilizingly different point of view rooted in scale... Ken > "Ken Nadvornick" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Ken You just wait until they get that quantum computer thingy working! :-) -Jim > You just wait until they get that quantum computer thingy working! :-) We're workin' on it: http://www.iqc.ca/ > "Ken Nadvornick" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > granularity, but rather a container for multiple lower-level events occurring > concurrently. The very term CPU is getting somewhat fuzzy now. In the embedded processors that we have been developing as the instruction walks through the pipe it is distributed to one of several different ALU's that execute in parallel. Similar things are happening in the Intel processors where instructions are distributed so multiple instructions simulation. Often times when a branch is encountered the condition depends on the result of a separate alu both sides of the branch are executed until it is known which to discard. To be clear I am splitting hairs w.. >> Alan's server side is what was slowing things down on my end. >> I have 8Mb/sec connection with burst up to 16Mb/sec and was -barely- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >archive... that's the whole point of multitasking OS' ... you can let >slower activities run out of sight until done... Indeed I was. I have a neat little tool that times downloads and averages the throughput for me. It's called _DU Meter_ RP© >>> Alan's server side is what was slowing things down on my end. >>> I have 8Mb/sec connection with burst up to 16Mb/sec and was -barely- [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I have a neat little tool that times downloads and averages the > throughput for me. It's called _DU Meter_ Me too. At least on the WinXP. On the Mac I simply timed the DL of the 233MB file and calculated it to be 2.5 Mbi/s. That ignores overheads, of course so the actual BW was a little higher. The real point is I don't care how long something like this takes, but from here at least, the DL time somewhat better then yours (>2.5X better) and Ken (>3X better). The server is US based, BTW. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. >>>> Alan's server side is what was slowing things down on my end. >>>> I have 8Mb/sec connection with burst up to 16Mb/sec and was -barely- [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >The server is US based, BTW. There aften is a clog in the backbone somewhere around Chicago... kind of like the auto traffic. RP© >> The server is US based, BTW. > > There aften is a clog in the backbone somewhere around Chicago... kind > of like the auto traffic. Hmm, I wonder what the murder rate of files is... Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. > On Aug 14, 5:34 pm, Alan Browne <alan.bro...@Freelunchvideotron.ca> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Send it to me. I'd like to try it at work on our new T1 line. link sent Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. Alan, Thanks for taking the effort to do this. Great record of what was. many thanks Walter.. > I found a tool to DL the entire Pbase/shootin photo set into a directory > structure. Even generates a half-assed index for each mandate with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Cheers, > Alan. > Alan, > > Thanks for taking the effort to do this. Great record of what was. > > many thanks My pleasure. Keep shooting ... for the SI too. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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