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[SI] SHOOT-IN - Tie-In

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jimkramer - 07 Jun 2008 01:13 GMT
Tie in is a draw
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein
Doug Jewell - 07 Jun 2008 08:49 GMT
> Tie in is a draw
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein 

Jim,
noticed my image isn't there - wondering if there was a
problem in email or something and you didn't receive it?
jimkramer - 07 Jun 2008 09:17 GMT
>> Tie in is a draw
>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein
> Jim,
> noticed my image isn't there - wondering if there was a problem in email
> or something and you didn't receive it?

I did not get it, and have received email from you in the past. Check the
address and sent it again, please.

near the top
http://si.jlkramer.net/rulz/rulz.htm

-Jim
Doug Jewell - 08 Jun 2008 00:38 GMT
>>> Tie in is a draw
>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> -Jim

Hmmm... I have no idea what's going on here - I sent it
again last night, and tried again this morning - this time
from a web-based service, so hopefully it will go through.
I only just received the reply you sent to my email - sent
at 18:21 saturday (my time), it is now 9:37 sunday, so it
would appear I have some serious email problems.
Sorry for the stuff around - if you don't receive it this
time then I guess I'll just sit out this round.
jimkramer - 08 Jun 2008 00:49 GMT
>>>> Tie in is a draw
>>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Sorry for the stuff around - if you don't receive it this time then I
> guess I'll just sit out this round.

It's up now. I have no explanation for the first two vanishing into the
either. If you figure it out please let me know.
-Jim
Alan Browne - 07 Jun 2008 19:31 GMT
> Tie in is a draw
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein 

Apologies, but photo not ready until a few minutes ago.  Sent.

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Paul Furman - 07 Jun 2008 21:09 GMT
> Tie in is a draw
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein 

Paul Furman - industrial moire
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216627/original
My solution to the mandate was just a physical gag, an optical illusion
type interaction between foreground and background. The focal plane is
tilted to emphasize depth.
Here's a closer look (click for full pixel crops):
http://edgehill.net/California/Bay-Area/San-Francisco/gritty/5-20-08-warm-cove/f
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Walter Banks - stump in forest
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216628/original
The background is the subject and the foreground is the background, right?

Bowser - track meet
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216629/original
Here the subject is the background also but focus is reversed perhaps,
unless this is a catalog ad for that barricade device?

Bret Douglas - military cemetery with flags
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216630/original
What I see here is lines and circles/curves... the mostly linear rows of
headstones fading back to the OOF area in back where each stone is a
blur circle. The rows are curving over the hills and the top of each
stone is curved. Nice contrast and tie-in.

Mark Thomas - wet metal rack and rope?
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216631/original
OK I don't get it (Title: No Pegs Today.. ) but nice image! I guess it's
mostly a study in layers of lines at different angles.

Alan Dublin - looking into room past light switch
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216632/original
Something unsettling about this. It has the same flip between subject &
background with focus as Walter & Bowser.

Dudley Hanks - apple in glass
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216633/large
Cool! I don't know what I'm looking at though :-) Not so sharp but
beautiful lighting.

Jim Kramer - tie display in store?
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216634/original
Ha! Hmm, well I don't understand what this is either but
...
it's got ties in it.

Paul Campbell - old cathedral passages
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98228327/large
The foreground and background are repeated, the subject is the overall
scene not one or the other, or perhaps the interior ceiling of the first
passage.

Alan Browne - 4 dollar gallon of gas with SUV
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98270410/original
Crystal clear connection here.

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jimkramer - 07 Jun 2008 21:18 GMT
>> Tie in is a draw
>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> ...
> it's got ties in it.

It is a shredder if that helps... The silvery OOF is the shredder blades.
But I guess if I have to explain... :-(
-Jim
Wilba - 08 Jun 2008 04:16 GMT
>>> Tie in is a draw
>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It is a shredder if that helps... The silvery OOF is the shredder blades.
> But I guess if I have to explain... :-(

Not to everyone. :-)
Alan Browne - 07 Jun 2008 21:29 GMT
> Alan Browne - 4 dollar gallon of gas with SUV
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98270410/original
> Crystal clear connection here.

Thx.  No time for subtlety.

My neighbor who owns that 6.1 litre beast gets 400 km for 70 litres of
fuel.  (Worse if he drives it like the beast it is).

(For you yanks, that's about 13.4 mpg... )

In London, that would be about $9.50/US gallon...

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Jufí - 07 Jun 2008 21:38 GMT
> Bowser - track meet
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216629/original
> Here the subject is the background also but focus is reversed perhaps,
> unless this is a catalog ad for that barricade device?

Uh, those aren't "barricades" but hurdles. The tie in is between the hurdles
and the girls in the background who are about run and jump over them.

Barricades?
Paul Furman - 08 Jun 2008 00:47 GMT
>> Bowser - track meet
>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216629/original
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Barricades?

Well they didn't look like shredders :-(
sorry
Thanks for contributing. An interesting variation on approaching
background/foreground.

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Walter Banks - 08 Jun 2008 00:32 GMT
> > Tie in is a draw
> > http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein
>
> Walter Banks - stump in forest
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216628/original
> The background is the subject and the foreground is the background, right?

Correct. There was a small clearing with an 80 year old
white cedar stump in a clearing. From where I was standing
the stump was well lit in the morning sunshine. This old stump
was feeding a new generation of trees most of which are
not Cedar. On impulse I flipped the background foreground
focus.

Thanks for the comments.

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Atheist Chaplain - 08 Jun 2008 03:25 GMT
>> Tie in is a draw
>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein

> Mark Thomas - wet metal rack and rope?
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216631/original
> OK I don't get it (Title: No Pegs Today.. ) but nice image! I guess it's
> mostly a study in layers of lines at different angles.

Not so much a metal rack as a clothes line dripping with water, 80% of
Australians use a clothes line to dry their clothes rather than a drier. The
water would indicate that it is raining, thus no chance of pegging out the
washing to dry.
:-) personally it is my favourite photo, closely followed by Brett's

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Paul Furman - 08 Jun 2008 21:40 GMT
>> Mark Thomas - wet metal rack and rope?
>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216631/original
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> water would indicate that it is raining, thus no chance of pegging out the
> washing to dry.

Ah, thanks, what we call "clothespins" in the US :-)

> :-) personally it is my favourite photo, closely followed by Brett's

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Mark Thomas - 08 Jun 2008 23:04 GMT
>>> Mark Thomas - wet metal rack and rope?
>>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216631/original
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Ah, thanks, what we call "clothespins" in the US :-)

Hmm.. I thought all these Americanisms were *shorter* than the Old
English equivalent..  otherwise what's the point?  (O:

There was another reason for the title.. a while back I posted this image:

http://www.marktphoto.com/examples/pegged.jpg

So when the mandate came up and I couldn't think of anything else, I
very uninspiringly plagiarised my own image..

>> :-) personally it is my favourite photo, closely followed by Brett's
Thanks AC!, and thanks Paul for taking the time to offer an excellent
critique.  I shall be back later to do one myself.
Mark Thomas - 09 Jun 2008 00:11 GMT
> Tie in is a draw
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein 

Paul
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216627/
Like Paul,I found a few of these images unsettling - including his (O:.
 At first I thought lensbaby?  There are some weird oof effects here
that suggest something beyond a tilted focal plane, but whatever.  I
thought maybe the tie in was the repeating shapes - I reckon what would
have made this is matching graffiti on the building... (you don't carry
a spray pack with you, Paul?)

Walter
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216628/
I like this, but find the d-o-f and focus choice oddly disturbing - it
just looks weird, and I'm not sure if it is the slightly too high
central composition, the fact that you are not quite sure if the stump
ends or continues upwards obscured...  I want to keep looking at it, so
it works.

Bowser
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216629/
Nicely done, but I wonder if it would have been better with a lower
viewpoint to show more of the crouching runner, or perhaps shot from
further back to include a second or third set of hurdles, but then you
might have lost the effect of the runners..  It does look like an ad for
the hurdle manufacturer.  (and extra points for being another who careth
not for standard aspect ratios)

Bret
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216630/
While I generally cringe at anything patriotic, I like this image a lot.
 Feels very balanced and nicely moody.

Mark
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216631/
It's just some clothesline on a rainy day, with a wood fence background.
  Not entirely happy with the composition, and it wasn't very inspired.

Alan
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216632/
Nice work and good tie in, but I would have liked to see something more
intriguing/less cluttered in the items in the back room - it just looks
like the sorta mess I see at my place every day... But maybe that's what
makes it real.

Dudley
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216633/
Interesting composition and effective use of shapes to make the eye go
round...  But I think something needs to be more sharply in focus and
perhaps some slightly more contrasty lighting, maybe late afternoon
sunlight through the glass?

Jim
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216634/
Well, it meets the mandate...  I am puzzling over this to work out what
the heck it is - looks like a scanner/printer/copier or similar into
which the tie is being dangerously fed!  Judging by the scratches, it
has seen a few days hard work..

Paul
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98228327/
Very apt old-world b&w treatment, nice use of repeating shapes.  I find
this image very restful...

Alan
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98270410/
Hmm.  I think you crossed the line!  You know how we criticise Helen for
tugging at heart-strings - well, here you have torn at our wallets just
to get a reaction, and i refuse to be drawn!!  I just don't want to
think about it, although I can say - serves you right for owning a
gas-guzzler.

Doug
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98281147/
A couple of nice tie-ins, namely the fog/mist and the water tower, and
the repeating shapes..  Not too sure about the tight cropping, but
otherwise the treatment and resulting effect is very good.

Well done, participants!
Doug Jewell - 09 Jun 2008 01:41 GMT
> Doug
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98281147/
> A couple of nice tie-ins, namely the fog/mist and the water tower, and
> the repeating shapes..  Not too sure about the tight cropping, but
> otherwise the treatment and resulting effect is very good.
Thanks. Actually the tight cropping was necessary to get
garbage out of the image, like a restaurant, cars, people etc.
Frank ess - 09 Jun 2008 02:18 GMT
[ ... ]

> Well done, participants!

Yeah, but what?

Must be my language skills are failing, too, but I didn't see a single
image - save one, and it was a /verbal/ joke - that met the challenge.

And /I'm/ the guy who gets the "off-the-wall" comments. Sheesh.

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Paul Furman - 09 Jun 2008 03:47 GMT
> [ ... ]
>
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> Must be my language skills are failing, too, but I didn't see a single
> image - save one, and it was a /verbal/ joke - that met the challenge.

Yeah, I think it was a tough mandate, it was my idea and I just went
abstract. That's OK, there were some fascinating demonstrations of
different ways to approach subject/background which I'll keep in mind
for future shots.

I think Brett got the mandate, I didn't mean to gush, maybe just playing
with my imagination... ideally there would be only curving rows of
headstones, not that straight segment in the foreground. The contrasting
of curves & lines comes through though. Soft rolling green and hard
straight white stones, this is a strong interesting relationship between
foreground and background.

The plays between focusing on the subject or not and background in the
foreground were interesting and creative. The repeating doorways and
patterns classically done.

And Doug, the tie-in I saw was the similar form of the water tower and
trees :-)

Hmm, we had 2 Pauls, 2 Alans, a Douglas & a Doug, a Banks & a Hanks.

> And /I'm/ the guy who gets the "off-the-wall" comments. Sheesh.

Did you see my post about the Lee Friedlander show?
I think you would enjoy his work.

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Annika1980 - 09 Jun 2008 15:17 GMT
> I think Bret got the mandate, I didn't mean to gush, maybe just playing
> with my imagination... ideally there would be only curving rows of
> headstones, not that straight segment in the foreground. The contrasting
> of curves & lines comes through though. Soft rolling green and hard
> straight white stones, this is a strong interesting relationship between
> foreground and background.

Yeah, what he said!  The mandate called for "..a shape is repeated or
contrasted, a soft OOF background's forms emphasize a characteristic
of the subject..."

I was going for the repeating shapes of the headstones, and I shot at
f/2.8 to blur the background.  And there is also the obvious tie-in
between every soldier buried there.  You really feel it when you are
standing there among thousands of dead soldiers in a National
Cemetary.

Anyway, that was my little belated Memorial Day tribute to our fallen
soldiers.
Walter Banks - 09 Jun 2008 14:20 GMT
> Walter
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216628/
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> ends or continues upwards obscured...  I want to keep looking at it, so
> it works.

Mark,

Thanks for the comments. The stump is one of a dozen or so
within a mile of my house, survivors of a fire 80 or 90 years
ago.

Thanks,

walter..
Alan Browne - 09 Jun 2008 21:44 GMT
> Alan
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98270410/
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> think about it, although I can say - serves you right for owning a
> gas-guzzler.

Hi Mark, the gas guzzler belongs to my neighbor across the street.  He
has this 8 cyl Jeep and a Cadillac Escalade.  (They have 3 children;
admittedly they could get by with less in the form of vehicles).

I have always been an energy conserver and drive manual shift, 4 cyl.
Honda Accords for their quality, reliability and low consumption (I'm on
my 3rd Accord; ex-wife on 2nd Civic; girlfriend just bought a Honda Fit
(fantastically large/practical inside)).

On vacation in California this summer, I've booked a Ford Explorer, but
I'll try to downgrade to an Escape when I get there.  (if I try to
downgrade now, the price goes way up due to the pricing model of the car
rental co's).  Vacations or special use are the only time I book larger
vehicles.

In any case the high price of gas in the US is still 20% less than in
Canada.  In London it's around $9.50 / US gallon.

The idea came to me on the eve of the average price of gas in the US
crossing $4/US gallon.  Thankfully my wallet had some US $1's in it.

My neighbor came out while I was making various shots of his two cars
and gave me the stats: his monster Jeep 6.1 l, 8 cyl that gets 400 km/70
litres of gas (13.4 mpg) [less if he abuses it].  His Escalade
surprisingly gets much better mileage

I've long said that we've ignored the lessons of the 70's, and over the
next 10 years we will get a rather severe re-education given BRIC oil
demand growth and declining production in many established fields.

Cheers,
Alan.

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Mark Thomas - 10 Jun 2008 01:42 GMT
> > Alan
> >http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98270410/
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> has this 8 cyl Jeep and a Cadillac Escalade.  (They have 3 children;
> admittedly they could get by with less in the form of vehicles).

I can snipe from a distance, but then, if we all just owned what we need
and were sensible and fair in our purchasing.. the entire system would
collapse in minutes.

> I have always been an energy conserver and drive manual shift, 4 cyl.
> Honda Accords...

Similar story here.  Never had a Honda tho'.  I don't quite get the need
to buy powerful, too large vehicles.  Having said that, as a kid my
favorite cars were the 69-70 'stangs and the Lambo Countach...  And I
love watching Top gear, and would kill to have a drive in a
Koenigsegg...  (O:

Trouble is, because of various lifestyle factors, I cover a lot of km's
per week so the fuel bill is still a very nasty part of my budget.

> In any case the high price of gas in the US is still 20% less than in
> Canada.  In London it's around $9.50 / US gallon.

Here in Oz, it's about A$1.50 per litre, or about US$5.40 /gal if my
calculations are correct.  At least in Britain they don't usually have
to drive very far.  Looking at it on the map, I reckon you could walk
from top to bottom in a few hours..

> I've long said that we've ignored the lessons of the 70's, and over
> the next 10 years we will get a rather severe re-education given BRIC
> oil demand growth and declining production in many established fields.

I, presumably mistakenly, used to think that the US had a lot of oil
reserves itself, and that the price would be kept at reasonable levels
over time because of that.  Then again, maybe these *are* reasonable
levels...  sigh..
Alan Browne - 10 Jun 2008 02:05 GMT
> I, presumably mistakenly, used to think that the US had a lot of oil
> reserves itself, and that the price would be kept at reasonable levels
> over time because of that.  Then again, maybe these *are* reasonable
> levels...  sigh..

Well, the US remains its own largest supplier at about 5 or 6 M bbl per
day, but with a consumption of 20 - 21 M bbl / day, it has to import
thrice as much oil as it produces.

The US hit its "peak oil" back in the late 60's.

They have not yet exploited ANWR, some of the Mexican Gulf and there is
probably oil off of the East Coast as well.

You would think that the 70's were warning enough.

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William Graham - 10 Jun 2008 02:34 GMT
>> I, presumably mistakenly, used to think that the US had a lot of oil
>> reserves itself, and that the price would be kept at reasonable levels
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You would think that the 70's were warning enough.

Sometime ago I read somewhere that the US has adapted a policy of keeping a
lot of crude in reserve and using up as much foreign oil as possible so we
would not be in a bad position should there be a foreign war and we were to
run out of oil before it's over. (similar to the position that Adolf Hitler
was in at the end of WW-II) I don't know if this is true or not, but I do
know that my father, who was a traffic manager at Exxon, told me when he
retired (in 1953) that there was enough oil that he knew about, "in the
ground" to last us, "another 100 years". My father was not a stupid person,
so I believe him, and that puts us at 2050 before we run out of crude oil. I
told people about this during the gas crisis of the 70's, and they didn't
believe me then, but obviously, we weren't running out then, and I don't
believe we are anywhere close to running out now. I won't live until 2050,
so if I am wrong you are welcome to come and spit on my grave....:^) (But
you will have to ride a bicycle here to do it)
Walter Banks - 10 Jun 2008 14:51 GMT
> > I, presumably mistakenly, used to think that the US had a lot of oil
> > reserves itself, and that the price would be kept at reasonable levels
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You would think that the 70's were warning enough.

There maybe (is) oil in ANWR but the price we could pay for
that oil may be a footnote in history to the most destructive
attack on ecology.

The arctic is unique in it lack of ability to heal itself. I hiked out to
an 1100 year old inuit campsite a few years ago, the whale bone
ribs used as a frame for the shelter were still there. Most telling
of all was the garbage was intact in its pit.

The kind of natural organisms that are useful repairing spills
just don't exist. ANWR is one of the few pristine places left.
I will hang up my SUV and walk before I would want to
tell future generations that we destroyed that beauty for
another tank of gas.

Energy use and transformations from one form to another
should and will likely change. The US thinks that $4.00
gas is expensive. The innovation has already started in other
countries and is having an impact. Brazil's fermentors,
French hydrogen technology, Italy's small high performance
diesel engines. We are seeing big increases in wind power.
The Bruce Peninsula where I live in Ontario is a net exporter
of electricity due to wind generation.

(rant off, its coffee time)

w..
jimkramer - 10 Jun 2008 15:34 GMT
>> > I, presumably mistakenly, used to think that the US had a lot of oil
>> > reserves itself, and that the price would be kept at reasonable levels
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>
> w..

So all that global warming will be of some use after all. :-)  Damn the
polar bears, I want microbial activity!

I do, however, dread what it will really take to get the US to use
alternative forms of energy for the morning commute. And the time it will
take.  :-(

-Jim
Walter Banks - 10 Jun 2008 16:17 GMT
> So all that global warming will be of some use after all. :-)  Damn the
> polar bears, I want microbial activity!

It does have some advantages. In 1967 (boy was that a long time ago)
I was cut up pretty bad in a fall while mountain climbing in the eastern arctic
the surprise was we kept washing out the cuts in a stream and we were
then weathered in for several days, by the time we could have got me
out to medical  help it was clear that I was better off where we were.
There was no sign of infection in any of the cuts.

> I do, however, dread what it will really take to get the US to use
> alternative forms of energy for the morning commute. And the time it will
> take.  :-(

A 150 mile / charge electric vehicle possibly one with a battery cartridge
for quick exchange would change a lot. The problem seems to be some
compact light form of energy storage.

Many countries have vehicles licensed for commuter use (non freeway)
as a separate category.

There are some serious new automotive companies emerging like Tata
in India that are likely to have innovative personal transportation products.
Even lead acid batteries are being improved significantly in the amount
of stored energy.

The biggest problem in the US is restarting fundamental innovation
to focus on quality of life issues.

w..
William Graham - 10 Jun 2008 20:46 GMT
>> So all that global warming will be of some use after all. :-)  Damn the
>> polar bears, I want microbial activity!
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> w..

Battery technology has come a long way during the last 10 years or so.
(Since the development of the digital camera and many cell phones and
laptops) I think the car of the future will be a battery driven electric,
and hopefully, most of the electricity will be generated with nuclear power
by then, instead of burning coal, as it is today.
Alan Browne - 10 Jun 2008 23:15 GMT
>> They have not yet exploited ANWR, some of the Mexican Gulf and there is
>> probably oil off of the East Coast as well.
>>
> There maybe (is) oil in ANWR but the price we could pay for
> that oil may be a footnote in history to the most destructive
> attack on ecology.

I'm not promoting the idea.  But you can be sure it will be tapped one
day.  With projected production in a band of 400,000 - 800,000 bbl per
day (high likelihood) it is inevitable.  (low likelihood estimates go as
high as 1.2 M bbl / day).

And since there is a pipeline in place to move that oil (Prudhoe Bay to
Valdez) it would be reasonably cost effective to do so as production at
Prudhoe Bay is declining.  (Just need a pipeline from ANWR towards the
existing pipeline).

Fact is the US uses about 25% of the worlds oil day and day out.

It would be nice if the US showed positive leadership in curtailing the
need for oil.  Fat chance.

Today the US Senate voted down a "windfall" tax for the oil co's.  Guess
which party led the defeat of the bill?  (Rhetorical).  The bill also
contained extensions of tax breaks for renewable energy.

"" They (Republicans) said the nation should combat high prices by
increasing the domestic oil supply, including by permitting drilling in
the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, which Democrats oppose. ""
   -- Wash. Post, 2008.06.10

It's long past due to stop trying to solve this with supply side
attacks.  Certainly keep finding and developing, but also find ways to
reduce consumption through much faster CAFE requirements (current take
12 years to get anywhere... and that somewhere is not all that
ambitious), and more development of renewable energy.

Cheers,
Alan.

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Doug Jewell - 09 Jun 2008 02:10 GMT
> Tie in is a draw
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/tiein

Paul
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216627/
I like the lighting/colouring here - the warm tones, the
repeating patterns etc. The tie in is between the steel
trailers and steel shed? The front trailer in focus at the
bottom and out at the top is a wierd effect though.

Walter
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216628/
I wonder if it wouldn't have worked better with a smaller
aperture to bring a bit more of the foreground in focus, or
alternatively opened up more to get the leaves properly out
of focus. Quite nice though. I like the way the stump is
framed by the leaves. I maybe would have shot a little lower
to get the top of the stump clear of the leaves framing it
at the top.

Bowser
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216629/
Very nicely done, and probably my favorite of the shoot-in.

Bret
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216630/
Nicely done - personally I would have tried to make the
front tombstone be completely in the shot.

Mark
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216631/
An interesting take on the mandate. Dunno about the rope
hanging over it, or the angle the lines are at though. With
the lines parallel I think it would have made a more
interesting shot playing on the repeating patterns.

Alan
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216632/
I like the tie between the switch and the light, but agree
with mark that the room looks a bit dull. Perhaps if it was
stark, or alternatively with some other interesting subject
in there.

Dudley
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216633/
I quite like this one. It's one of those intriguing things
that we see every day, but don't normally see it like that.

Jim
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216634/
Tie-In ... the shredder. Well it's the most literal
interpretation of the mandate. Bonus points for being the
only one to have a completely different interpretation.
Possibly would have worked better if the blades were in
clearer focus, but that would involve re-writing the laws of
physics to still have the tie recognisable.

Paul
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98228327/
Very nice use of the repeating shapes, and then another
building with the same arches visible in the distant
background. Long Live HP5!

Alan
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98270410/
Hmmm... That container looks to be about a gallon. If you
can fill it with those $4 you have nothing to complain
about. When you're paying $1.60/litre ($6/US gallon, $7 for
a real gallon), then you can complain! Back to the photo, I
like the tie-in between the fuel container and the gas
guzzler in the background. It looks like one of those corny
shots that you see in the newspaper when they do a story on
rising petrol prices.

Doug
http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98281147/
All I see when I look at that image is the noise!! For
pretty much the whole month my DSLR has been in dry dock
getting it's sensor and focus realigned, so the duties fell
to my S2IS, which had also been in repair, but came back
just in time for the last weekend of the shoot-in. (I did
consider the use of film for this shoot-in, but was in hope
that the DSLR would be back in time, until I'd left it too
late).

So roll up to the last weekend of the shoot-in, with the
intent of heading out to a nearby farm to get a shot of hay
bales in front of a freshly cut field. But I woke up on the
morning of my RDO to rain, fog, and 40 knot winds!!! Racked
my brain for an alternative and decided on the water tower.

This shot was actually pretty tricky to take - due to the
pelting rain and driving winds, as soon as the camera was
taken out it would get covered in water, so I had to take
the shot very quickly or raindrops on the lens would spoil
the shot. Using some type of shield was out of the question
because the rain was blowing from the direction of the
subject. Anyone who has ever used an S2IS would know that
they don't focus or measure exposure quickly, so by the time
it locked focus or measured the light it already had
raindrops over the lens. Unfortunately manual focus is too
innaccurate on this camera so I couldn't use that as an
alternative. Took many attempts before I got a shot that
wasn't spoiled with raindrops. Using a different angle was
out of the question because then it was blocked too much by
trees, cars, buildings etc. I did attempt going in very
close so that it shielded me, but the lens on the S2 doesn't
go wide enough for me to do that.

Some of my alternative attempts included taking a photo of
the rain on the car window against the foggy background but
it wasn't really clear what the background was. I also
attempted to use the S2's super-macro mode to take a photo
of the raindrops on its lens! but again the background was
too out of focus.
Walter Banks - 09 Jun 2008 14:38 GMT
> Walter
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98216628/
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> to get the top of the stump clear of the leaves framing it
> at the top.

Doug,

I played with foreground focus at the time. The foreground
was in shade and I thought that leaving the foreground
slightly out of focus would help draw the eye to the
detail in the stump. The stump is well lit with morning sun
because it is in a clearing. The tree trunks on the left
side are 2 or 3 meters behind the stump and I wanted
them to be seen in detail. In the end I just used the
near leaves for framing.

Many thanks for your comments

w..
Alan Browne - 09 Jun 2008 21:47 GMT
> Alan
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98270410/
> Hmmm... That container looks to be about a gallon. If you can fill it
> with those $4 you have nothing to complain about. When you're paying
> $1.60/litre ($6/US gallon, $7 for a real gallon), then you can complain!

We're paying $1.38 or so per litre/here or about $5.10/US gallon.

My SO just called and saw $1.51 in the city, or $5.60/US gallon.

( 1US$ =~ 1.02CAD$ ).

We're not quite as heavily taxed as say, the UK, where it's
around $9.50 / US gallon.

The most "real" gallon there is is the original Roman galeta.  There are
a variety of other gallons including the US and the Imp.

See details in my reply to Mark.

> Back to the photo, I like the tie-in between the fuel container and the
> gas guzzler in the background. It looks like one of those corny shots
> that you see in the newspaper when they do a story on rising petrol prices.

Thank you!  That was the intent ("corny" included).

Cheers,
Alan

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Dudley Hanks - 10 Jun 2008 00:35 GMT
>> Alan
>> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/image/98270410/
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> Cheers,
> Alan

As a guy who used to race a couple of Mustangs, I'm curious.  What make and
model is the gas guzzler in the background?

Thanks,
Dudley
Alan Browne - 10 Jun 2008 01:08 GMT
> As a guy who used to race a couple of Mustangs, I'm curious.  What make and
> model is the gas guzzler in the background?

You may have guessed "Jeep" from the photo.

SRT-8, 6.1 l (370 in^3) Hemi.  420 HP (313.2 kW).

The owner gets 400 km / 70 litres (about 13.4 mpg) if he drives normally.

If he drives in tiny-male-appendage mode, he get about 320 km / 70
litres (~10.8 mpg).

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Dudley Hanks - 10 Jun 2008 01:19 GMT
>> As a guy who used to race a couple of Mustangs, I'm curious.  What make
>> and model is the gas guzzler in the background?
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> If he drives in tiny-male-appendage mode, he get about 320 km / 70 litres
> (~10.8 mpg).

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