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Photo Forum / Film Photography / 35 mm / September 2007Jesspos: Kodak have anounced the end of Kodachrome
Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this product is no longer being made". is this the long expected end of Kodachrome? Robert > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this > product is no longer being made". I thought it's been discontinued ages ago, was I wrong? With "it" I mean KC 200 of course. > > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this > > product is no longer being made". > > I thought it's been discontinued ages ago, was I wrong? The post recent rolls of Kodacrhome 200 that I have are dated: "process by 4/2008. Robert > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this > product is no longer being made". > > is this the long expected end of Kodachrome? Per the Kodak page, K-chrome 64 is still supported, though I'm not sure of the difference between "PKR" and "KR". Web searches suggest the "P" KR is a professional version, but I'm not really sure. http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/colorReversalIndex.jhtml?id =0.2.22.14.11&lc=en KODACHROME 64 (PKR) KODACHROME 64 (KR)  Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. >Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this >product is no longer being made". > >is this the long expected end of Kodachrome? Kodachrome 200 was discontinued lat year. Kodachrome 64 is still available. For those of us in Europe, it is now sent to the USA for processing although we still get to send it to Switzerland or Germany as before. Some of mine have been mailed back from the USA but my last batch of Kodachrome 64 slides were all posted back from Switzerland, but were obviously developed in the USA, with card mounts and a card case. > >Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > >for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Kodachrome 200 was discontinued last year. I bought a pack of 10 a few weeks ago. It must have been old stock I guess. I'm glad that 64 will keep going a little longer. i presume that they will eventually give a year's notice of the demise of the processing so that all 'in date' film can be processed. Robert > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this > product is no longer being made". K64 is still available, and TTBOMK still being produced. I'm a bit surprised that K200 hung on after K25 was axed. It may be Kodak had a few freezers full of K200 and K25 and the K25 freezer emptied first. Why axe K25 instead of K64 is a mystery to me. If it were up to me, the last two films being made would be Tech Pan and K25. I think K64's demise is inevitable. I shoot it as my main film but I am sure I am in a very small minority who does. The unwashed masses stopped taking slides when Kodak got Kodacolor prints to work. Slide film lived on because it was the film for media and stock photography. Now that 99.9% of media/stock photographers use digital there isn't any real market for slide film except for iconoclasts and a few technical markets. SignatureNicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com >> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > any real market for slide film except for iconoclasts and > a few technical markets. I haven't shot 64. I used to shoot 25 but that was a couple decade ago. Maybe time to order a brick of 64. Signature-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. > I haven't shot 64. I used to shoot 25 but that was a couple decade ago. > > Maybe time to order a brick of 64. Yeah.....the problem is, when the film goes away, the processing labs will go away too. Right now, there is only one left on this continent...... >> I haven't shot 64. I used to shoot 25 but that was a couple decade ago. >> >> Maybe time to order a brick of 64. >> >Yeah.....the problem is, when the film goes away, the processing labs will >go away too. Right now, there is only one left on this continent...... Dwaynes, in Kansas I think, is the only one left in the world, and probably in the entire solar system. Father Kodak >>> I haven't shot 64. I used to shoot 25 but that was a couple decade ago. >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Father Kodak Not the only Kodachrome processor in the whole solar system, but I've sworn not to tell anyone on this planet... and the shipping time is a real pita... > Dwaynes, in Kansas I think, is the only one left in the world, and > probably in the entire solar system. But other than locally, there's plenty of them, right? >> Dwaynes, in Kansas I think, is the only one left in the world, and >> probably in the entire solar system. > > But other than locally, there's plenty of them, right? You can get E-6 done locally. Kodachrome is process K-14 and Dwaynes is the only place left that does it. > Kodachrome is process K-14 and Dwaynes is the only place left that does it. There's also a lab in Japan, which makes it a grand total of two in the world. >> Kodachrome is process K-14 and Dwaynes is the only place left that does it. > >There's also a lab in Japan, which makes it a grand total of two in the world. Closed. Father Kodak http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/oldfilm.htm "Pudentame" <: >>> Dwaynes, in Kansas I think, is the only one left in the world, and >>> probably in the entire solar system. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Kodachrome is process K-14 and Dwaynes is the only place left that does > it. > http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/oldfilm.htm From the site: The film is processed as modified black and white negative and prints are made from any images. Color results from K-14 slide films are available (see here). This process is recommended for films that are over ten years old or have been exposed to extreme storage conditions. In general, the older the film the more "washed out" or faded color results become. Using only black and white development allows greater control and increases the chances of obtaining images from old films. Expected Results Because the film is old we do not guarantee that we can get pictures, but usually about 90% of the films we process do have pictures. Some films are faded because of age. Your film will always returned even if we are unable to obtain images. Because the film is old we cannot guarantee results and no refund is available regardless of the results. -------------------------------------------------------------------- So it's ok if you have a an old exposed Kodachrome and want to get _something_ out of it, however it's clearly not the #1 choice for developing fresh film. > The unwashed masses stopped taking slides when Kodak got > Kodacolor prints to work. Slide film lived on because it > was the film for media and stock photography. Now that > 99.9% of media/stock photographers use digital there isn't > any real market for slide film except for iconoclasts and > a few technical markets. And those of us who just enjoy it and will use it as long as it's available. KR64 is my main film too! > > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > http://www.darkroomautomation.com/index.htm > n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this > product is no longer being made". > > is this the long expected end of Kodachrome? Sounds as if we're edging toward the end of any good reason to keep all that 35mm equipment ... SignatureFrank ess RobertL wrote: > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order for > Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this product is > no longer being made". This got me thinking. I have 9 rolls of KL-200/36 in the plastic cylinders that have mostly been kept in the freezer, along with 9 of the PK-36 prepaid mailers. If anyone is interested in this, contact me and make an offer. Regards, SignatureJeff C. Jeffery Small CJSA LLC 206-232-3338 jeff@cjsa.com 7000 E Mercer Way, Mercer Island, WA 98040 >> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Sounds as if we're edging toward the end of any good reason to keep >all that 35mm equipment ... Only if you don't care for B&W or think that digital B&W equals film, with all its possibilities for development. Father Kodak > Sounds as if we're edging toward the end of any good reason to keep > all that 35mm equipment ... Well, I'm strongly moving towards mostly-medium format right now; shooting MF has never made more sense as now :) (Gotta sell a T-90, A-1, FTb, 50/1.4 S.S.C and other good stuff before I go bankrupt with all the MF stuff I bought. I'll be keeping the absolutely best parts of my 35mm equipment, though.) >> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Sounds as if we're edging toward the end of any good reason to keep >all that 35mm equipment ... There is a superb selection of film still available in green boxes, with a new formulation of Fuji Velvia 50 just having been introduced in Europe. The probable demise of Kodachrome might be symbolic to some, but it is certainly not the end for film, not by a very long way. > >> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > >> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > with a new formulation of Fuji Velvia 50 just having been introduced > in Europe. Are there any black and white diapositive films (with process paid)? There used to be Agfa's DiaDirekt but these days you seem to have to develope them yourself and use a normal B/W film. Robert >> >> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >> >> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >There used to be Agfa's DiaDirekt but these days you seem to have to >develope them yourself and use a normal B/W film. There is a new black and white slide film but it has a very low ISO of 12 to 25. There is no process paid, I think you have to buy chemicals and develop it yourself. If I recall the URL I will post it here. >>> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >>> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The probable demise of Kodachrome might be symbolic to some, but it is > certainly not the end for film, not by a very long way. I wonder why Kodak doesn't sell it's Kodachrome + processing to someone like Fuji, who seems to be committed to continuing to support film. Kodachrome has some unique characteristics that, (it seems to me) would make it attractive to Fuji. > >>> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > >>> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > has some unique characteristics that, (it seems to me) would make it > attractive to Fuji.- Hide quoted text - There was talk, at one time, of the EU taking it over on the grounds that it was the archival film of choice - having a problem long-term survival with small and predictable colour balance shifts. But that seemed to go quiet. R > There is a superb selection of film still available in green boxes, > with a new formulation of Fuji Velvia 50 just having been introduced > in Europe. and Australia. Together with Fuji 400X, one of the best so far. >> There is a superb selection of film still available in green boxes, >> with a new formulation of Fuji Velvia 50 just having been introduced >> in Europe. > >and Australia. Together with Fuji 400X, one of the best so far. Agree 100%. I have used quite a few rolls of Fujichrome Provia 400X and I am hugely impressed. The grain seems no worse than Provia 100, the immediate predecessor to the current 100F, and that is a great achievement for an ISO 400 emulsion. I believe that its archival qualities are also excellent. > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Robert Not quite yet. AFAIK, Kodachrome 64 is going to be around for a while longer. Kodachrome 200 never achieved the popularity of earlier formulations. > > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order > > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > longer. Kodachrome 200 never achieved the popularity of earlier > formulations. There was some dicussion of a black/white reversal film. Apparently there is a film called FOMAPAN-R, it is a 35mm reversal B/W film made in Czechoslovakia. Also this lab http://www.dr5.com/ will process any BW film to a positive slide for about $15 a roll. Robert > There was some dicussion of a black/white reversal film. Apparently > there is a film called FOMAPAN-R, it is a 35mm reversal B/W film made > in Czechoslovakia. Also this lab http://www.dr5.com/ will process > any BW film to a positive slide for about $15 a roll. Some shops still have Scala left. Get it while you can. >> > Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >> > for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >in Czechoslovakia. Also this lab http://www.dr5.com/ will process >any BW film to a positive slide for about $15 a roll. Does anyone know their process? I think that formulas for doing this have been around for years. Father Kodak >>>> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >>>> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Father Kodak Back "in the day" Kodak made a film called Direct Positive and a home chemistry kit to process it. If you read the fine print, you learned you could also process Panatomic-X, normally a very fine grain B&W negative film (ASA 32) as positives with the same chemistry. But all those films are gone as is the chemistry. Michael >>>>> Jessops just rang me to say that they cannot supply my recent order >>>>> for Kodachroime 200. "the manufacturers have informed us that this [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Michael But not the formula. You can google it. Something interesting I ran across that I didn't know, process Kodachrome in E6 chemistry and you get B&W transparencies. |
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