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JimKramer - 15 Sep 2007 23:14 GMT
Anyone here using Almay?

Any experiences to share good or bad?

I'm especially interested in people's experiences outside of the UK.

Jim
Tony Polson - 15 Sep 2007 23:45 GMT
>Anyone here using Almay?
>
>Any experiences to share good or bad?
>
>I'm especially interested in people's experiences outside of the UK.

I have no need of cosmetics.  ;-)

I recommend that you should try "Alamy" instead.
JimKramer - 16 Sep 2007 00:05 GMT
> >Anyone here using Almay?
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> I recommend that you should try "Alamy" instead.

That's what I get for being dyslexic. But, yes any experience?
Tony Polson - 16 Sep 2007 00:06 GMT
>> >Anyone here using Almay?
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>That's what I get for being dyslexic. But, yes any experience?

Yes, but I am in the UK.
JimKramer - 16 Sep 2007 00:11 GMT
> >> >Anyone here using Almay?
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> Yes, but I am in the UK.

I said especially interested in outside of the UK because I am.
However, I am interested in any experience(s) as well.  Thanks.
Tony Polson - 16 Sep 2007 00:27 GMT
>> >> >Anyone here using Almay?
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>I said especially interested in outside of the UK because I am.
>However, I am interested in any experience(s) as well.  Thanks.

OK.  Alamy used to be great.  

Now Alamy has a ranking system, AlamyRank, which means that new
photographers start out in a lower rank.  Picture editors' and other
photo buyers' clicks and purchases decide which images rank highest.
That means that the search results that come up first are in the upper
ranks, which is composed of work by photographers who have been
successful with Alamy and have a good track record in selling images

Only if picture editors cannot find what they want in the higher ranks
will they bother looking further.  That now makes it very much more
difficult than it used to be to start selling pictures with Alamy.

Alamy was very successful, but that attracted a lot of amateurs as
well as professionals.  There were too many amateurs trying to sell
uninspiring images, and picture editors complained that the images
were not only of low quality, but also poorly tagged, meaning that the
editors had to trawl through enormous numbers of images to find one
that they wanted.  Alamy felt that they were losing business as a
result,  hence the rank system.

It's still good if you are in the upper ranks, but less good than it
used to be if you are starting out.  

All the other information you need can be found on the Alamy site.
Paul Furman - 15 Sep 2007 23:49 GMT
> Anyone here using Almay?
>
> Any experiences to share good or bad?
>
> I'm especially interested in people's experiences outside of the UK.

I assume you aren't talking about the moissturizing creme.
:-)
http://www.alamy.com
JimKramer - 16 Sep 2007 00:09 GMT
> > Anyone here using Almay?
>
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> I assume you aren't talking about the moissturizing creme.
> :-)http://www.alamy.com

Yes, I'm an idiot, but now someone should read this. :-)

Oh wait, you know you smear it on your lens for that creamy bokeh that
eveyone just loves. Yeah that's it.
Paul Furman - 16 Sep 2007 00:16 GMT
>>>Anyone here using Almay?
>>
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> Oh wait, you know you smear it on your lens for that creamy bokeh that
> eveyone just loves. Yeah that's it.

I tried searching it for an obscure latin name for a particular native
California plant and was surprised to see several matches. Pretty nice
shots though mine are better :-) There were a few different
photographers in the match too so I'm pretty impressed that I was able
to find a selection of matches for such a narrow subject.

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Tony Polson - 16 Sep 2007 00:33 GMT
>I tried searching it for an obscure latin name for a particular native
>California plant and was surprised to see several matches. Pretty nice
>shots though mine are better :-) There were a few different
>photographers in the match too so I'm pretty impressed that I was able
>to find a selection of matches for such a narrow subject.

That's actually part of the biggest problem Alamy has; too many images
by too many photographers.  And according to picture editors, not
enough quality either, which is why they have introduced AlamyRank:

http://www.epuk.org/News/414/alamy-under-fire-over-new-search-engine
or
http://tinyurl.com/yk9bs3
JimKramer - 16 Sep 2007 01:20 GMT
> >I tried searching it for an obscure latin name for a particular native
> >California plant and was surprised to see several matches. Pretty nice
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> http://www.epuk.org/News/414/alamy-under-fire-over-new-search-engine
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/yk9bs3

Thanks for the link.

I did a several "technical" searches and some rather bland word
searches.   There was a great deal of frass and a few technically
competent images.  There were a number of Corbis images that came up,
that surprised me.

I find the whole upsize it to such and such size to be a bit
ridiculous.  It's got to be so big before we will take it.

I need an additional revenue stream and I'm wondering if this will fit
the bill.
Tony Polson - 16 Sep 2007 14:07 GMT
>Thanks for the link.

You're welcome.

>I did a several "technical" searches and some rather bland word
>searches.   There was a great deal of frass and a few technically
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>I need an additional revenue stream and I'm wondering if this will fit
>the bill.

Only you can judge that, but I repeat my warning that it is very much
more difficult to start out with Alamy than it used to be.  

Once you are established, the AlamyRank system works reasonably well.
But the difficulty is getting to that point from starting out.
Tony Polson - 16 Sep 2007 00:28 GMT
>> > Anyone here using Almay?
>>
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>Oh wait, you know you smear it on your lens for that creamy bokeh that
>eveyone just loves. Yeah that's it.

Cold cream (for example Ponds brand) is very good at removing fungus
from lens elements, and it also has the benefit of killing the fungus.

(seriously!)
Tony Polson - 16 Sep 2007 01:05 GMT
>>> > Anyone here using Almay?
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>(seriously!)

http://www.pondssquad.com/cold_cream.asp
Paul Furman - 16 Sep 2007 01:58 GMT
>>>>>Anyone here using Almay?
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>>(seriously!)

It's about the only thing short of gasoline that'll remove pine sap too.
Tony Polson - 16 Sep 2007 13:07 GMT
>>>Cold cream (for example Ponds brand) is very good at removing fungus
>>
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>It's about the only thing short of gasoline that'll remove pine sap too.

If it will remove women's make-up, it will probably remove anything!
 
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